Hyper grace

[eternally-gratefull]

Why bot let him answer for himself rather than thrusting yourself forward. Its cool we know you know much

Paul said he could not do the good he wanted to do but the evil he did not want to do, that which he hated he did

Yep speaking of his flesh.

I guess you have it all figured out, and you can do all kinds of good with your flesh and stop all kinds of sin with your flesh.
Even though scripture says our flesh can do not good. it can only produce evil.

See, you do not want to discus anything, you think you know it all..

so again, why are you hear? what purpose do you have other than to try to shove your belief down everyones throat an not listen to anyone who disagrees with you?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And ahy dont you look up the word concupiscence in the dictionary if you insist on discussing 7-11

how about showing me where that word is, and I will look it up in the greek.. I need the exact word so I can look it up on my software.

 

[james57]

Yep speaking of his flesh.

I guess you have it all figured out, and you can do all kinds of good with your flesh and stop all kinds of sin with your flesh.
Even though scripture says our flesh can do not good. it can only produce evil.

See, you do not want to discus anything, you think you know it all..

so again, why are you hear? what purpose do you have other than to try to shove your belief down everyones throat an not listen to anyone who disagrees with you?

Why do you make me keep tell you this. It is a waste of time and effort discussing with you for you are not open to persuassion you have to be right.

And as for me not discussing it. All I have veen doing of late is discussing it
If you don't believe me ask hrftd, grace 770, Lynn and euphemia

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

how about showing me where that word is, and I will look it up in the greek.. I need the exact word so I can look it up on my software.

concupiscence
G1939 ἐπιθυμία epithumia (ep-ee-thoo-mee'-ah) n.
1. a longing

 

[james57]

concupiscence
G1939 ἐπιθυμία epithumia (ep-ee-thoo-mee'-ah) n.
1. a longing

You can do better than that

 

[Euphemia]

Euphemia believes the mark of a christian is addiction to a life of sin is broken

He also believes in rom 7:7-11&rom 7:14-23 Paul is speaking of his christian life

But he says there are no contradictions in his beliefs

It is true. When we come to faith in Jesus Christ, we become new creatures with a whole new paradigm. No longer do we embrace sin. We become repelled by it because the Lord has come to dwell within our spirit. No longer are we compelled to sin. We are now compelled to righteousness.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Why do you make me keep tell you this. It is a waste of time and effort discussing with you for you are not open to persuassion you have to be right.

And as for me not discussing it. All I have veen doing of late is discussing it
If you don't believe me ask hrftd, grace 770, Lynn and euphemia

Your way of discussing is this.....

This is what I believe

Someone disagrees

You attack

that is not discussing..

that's trying to force your opinions on others.

 

[james57]

It is ture. When we come to faith in Jesus Christ, we become new creatures ith a whole new paradigm. No longer do we embrace sin. We become repelled by it because the Lord has come to dwell within our spirit. No longer are we compelled to sin. We are now compelled to righteousness.

And yet you believe Paul is speaking of his christian life in rom7:14-23

He says he is sold as a slave to sin.he cannot do the good he wants to do, but the evil he does not want to do, Tha which he hates he does.
How do you square that with your statements?

 

[james57]

Your way of discussing is this.....

This is what I believe

Someone disagrees

You attack

that is not discussing..

that's trying to force your opinions on others.

Well I don't want to discuss it with you anyway. It is absurd to even wonder when those five verses relate to in Paul's life. But as you would never admit you could be wrong youd discuss the fo rd acweek and come up with anything rather than admit you were wrong

 

[eternally-gratefull]

concupiscence
G1939 ἐπιθυμία epithumia (ep-ee-thoo-mee'-ah) n.
1. a longing

where is it, I do not see it in the text.

That does not help.. let me look


Ahh, I should have known, the king jimmy, Now the problem comes forth.

here is the greek word.

Louw Nida 25.2025.20 [FONT=#Logos 5 Resource]ἐπιθυμέω[/FONT][SUP]b[/SUP]; [FONT=#Logos 5 Resource]ἐπιθυμία[/FONT][SUP]b[/SUP],[FONT=#Logos 5 Resource] ας [/FONT]f: to strongly desire to have what belongs to someone else and/or to engage in an activity which is morally wrong—‘to covet, to lust, evil desires, lust, desire.’

[FONT=#Logos 5 Resource]ἐπιθυμέω[/FONT][SUP]b[/SUP]: [FONT=#Logos 5 Resource]ἀργυρίου ἢ χρυσίου ἢ ἱματισμοῦ οὐδενὸς ἐπεθύμησα [/FONT]‘I have not coveted anyone’s silver, gold, or clothing’ Ac 20:33; [FONT=#Logos 5 Resource]ὁ βλέπων γυναῖκα πρὸς τὸ ἐπιθυμῆσαι αὐτήν [/FONT]‘anyone who looks at a woman lustfully’ Mt 5:28.
[FONT=#Logos 5 Resource][/FONT][FONT=#Logos 5 Resource]ἐπιθυμία[/FONT][SUP]b[/SUP]: [FONT=#Logos 5 Resource]ἐπιθυμίας πολλὰς ἀνοήτους [/FONT]‘many foolish desires’ 1 Tm 6:9; [FONT=#Logos 5 Resource]νεωτερικὰς ἐπιθυμίας [/FONT]‘youthful desires’ 2 Tm 2:22; [FONT=#Logos 5 Resource]ταῖς πρότερον ἐν τῇ ἀγνοίᾳ ὑμῶν ἐπιθυμίαις [/FONT]‘the former desires when you were ignorant’ 1 Pe 1:14; [FONT=#Logos 5 Resource]ἐπιθυμίαν σαρκὸς οὐ μὴ τελέσητε [/FONT]‘do not gratify the desires of the body’ Ga 5:16.



That could mean many things, Food, sex, People. Power. Position. Money.

so what was his point?

 

[Euphemia]

Did Paul write Romans 7 when he was a pharisee? He said 'I am carnal sold under sin'.

Literary device.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It is true. When we come to faith in Jesus Christ, we become new creatures with a whole new paradigm. No longer do we embrace sin. We become repelled by it because the Lord has come to dwell within our spirit. No longer are we compelled to sin. We are now compelled to righteousness.

does it mean we can defeat sin in our flesh? or does it take more than that?

 

[james57]

And as for trying to force opinions on others you don't leave people alone until you have the last word. Look inward once in a while instead of just criticising others

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Well I don't want to discuss it with you anyway. It is absurd to even wonder when those five verses relate to in Paul's life. But as you would never admit you could be wrong youd discuss the fo rd acweek and come up with anything rather than admit you were wrong

No, I could be wrong, But you have not given me reason to be wrong..

You will never convince someone they are wrong by belittling them and not answering what they have said.

I have been open and answered everything you have said.

You refuse to give me the same courtesy, so you prove your the one with the closed mind..

 

[james57]

Come on euphemia you've had enough Tim to come up with something. On these kind of websites people always do, however ridiculous the answer

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And as for trying to force opinions on others you don't leave people alone until you have the last word. Look inward once in a while instead of just criticising others

I would leave you alone,

But you demand people do what you refuse to do. You lie about them and state they are not doing what they keep doing over and over, yet you yourself will not do the very thing you demand everyone else do .

people have a habit of coming into Christian chat and doing that, and frankly it gets old.

And until you stop it,, Or someone with power makes you stop it. I will confront you every time you do it to someone else.

This is a bible discussion for, Quite frankly it gets tiring when someone makes a claim or states something they say is fact, and does not give everyone the right to counter that so called fact..

If you do not want to discuss the word. or put yourself open to people questioning you. Then again, maybe this is not the place for you.

 

[james57]

No, I could be wrong, But you have not given me reason to be wrong..

You will never convince someone they are wrong by belittling them and not answering what they have said.

I have been open and answered everything you have said.

You refuse to give me the same courtesy, so you prove your the one with the closed mind..

You would never admit you could be wrong. You believe Paul is speaking of his christian life in rom 7:7-11

Have you checked out that word yet?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Come on euphemia you've had enough Tim to come up with something. On these kind of websites people always do, however ridiculous the answer

wow what attitude

and we are the ones who have problems

How do you know something did not come up? Your must be trying to be nice with your flesh, because it is not working, Try relying on the spirit for once. The flesh is not serving you any favors. it is making you look bad.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You would never admit you could be wrong. You believe Paul is speaking of his christian life in rom 7:7-11

Have you checked out that word yet?

I forgot you do not read. Yet again, Someone already answered your question, and you claim they did not do it (rolls eyes)

And you wonder why you get in trouble so much, Start looking inside for once, You have a lot of good grasp on certain biblical principles. do not destroy the ability to share them because your so proud.

post 2070,, or are you to good to go back and look?

 

[james57]

wow what attitude

and we are the ones who have problems

How do you know something did not come up? Your must be trying to be nice with your flesh, because it is not working, Try relying on the spirit for once. The flesh is not serving you any favors. it is making you look bad.

I told you you were hyper. Is that why you called me a liar and said I spoke crap( or you used that word in some connection to me)

You see I know you want to thrust yourself forwa rd d here and look good to others, but I didn't notice you try and defend me when euphemia was rude and insulting to me earlier
You going to tell him off for that?
Course not

Now try and calm down- please