still think 9 11 was a conspiracy?

[Mitspa]

The blind dont see anything bro. They are blind!

I think its just pride in some cases and pride can be broken if they are real Christians ... The deception was great and before folks could catch up with all the lies and prove they was lies...I think many of us really had to question what happened..but now the truth is out and the truth will set you free ... Repent of your pride guys and admit the great lie is over

 

[Mitspa]

mitspa your not understanding what im saying about the free press not being a free press. here is an example:
if you have one story and you pass that story to 100 people, you get 100 copies of the same story. does this make sense?
and yes there are a small few going out and looking for the truth, they are the ones being laughed at and called conspiracy theorist.

No... what your saying is that these reporters are part of a great conspiracy from the beginning ... not that folks have started blowing off conspiracy folks now that the evidence is out....

 

[jaybird88]

This proves my point ..that most folks in our nation are honest people and would not go along with this sort of stuff ..especially our soldiers ...they are honest men and women and would not harm innocent people ... If this is a real story ..why dont they tell who these people where that made this plan? I doubt this story is much more than liberal propaganda? You have any real documents or just some reporters story?

here is a short summery of all the cuba stuff that bushido is referring to:
way back in the day cuba was a small developing country, then their president who was elected by the people was overthrown and replaced by batasta, a military dictator, heavily connected to the big business of cuba. big business owned by companies in the US. baasta pretty much made cuba into cheap labor for the us. castro came in, gave cuba back to the people and was made public enemy #1 by the US goverment. all those lives lost to protect big biz interest. the same thing happened in Guatemala, Colombia, chili and many other poor countries.
and these things never change

 

[Mitspa]

here is a short summery of all the cuba stuff that bushido is referring to:
way back in the day cuba was a small developing country, then their president who was elected by the people was overthrown and replaced by batasta, a military dictator, heavily connected to the big business of cuba. big business owned by companies in the US. baasta pretty much made cuba into cheap labor for the us. castro came in, gave cuba back to the people and was made public enemy #1 by the US goverment. all those lives lost to protect big biz interest. the same thing happened in Guatemala, Colombia, chili and many other poor countries.
and these things never change

Ok now deflect to some other charge and some other way to accuse our government of crimes... When one lie is proven false ..just tell another one...you know..thats exactly how the devil works

 

[jaybird88]

No... what your saying is that these reporters are part of a great conspiracy from the beginning ... not that folks have started blowing off conspiracy folks now that the evidence is out....

no thats not what im saying at all. i dont really know how else to explain it. the reporters are not part of anything, they are just repeating the stories given to them.

 

[Mitspa]

no thats not what im saying at all. i dont really know how else to explain it. the reporters are not part of anything, they are just repeating the stories given to them.

What? you mean you don't think they are part of the conspiracy ..but they just read whatever the government tells them? all the reporters on 911.... I don't even understand what your trying to say.... man just admit you have been mislead by all this stuff and get right with God..stop trying to promote lies.

 

[jaybird88]

What? you mean you don't think they are part of the conspiracy ..but they just read whatever the government tells them? all the reporters on 911.... I don't even understand what your trying to say.... man just admit you have been mislead by all this stuff and get right with God..stop trying to promote lies.

yes thats exactly what i am saying, they repeat what they are told and do not investigate anything.
my ancestors worked hard and gave their lives to make this country great, just like yours did. when i look at what our leaders are doing now, all i see is them undoing everything we fought for. everything and i mean everything they do is for the benefit of a tiny few and at the expense of the many. why in the world would anyone want to support that. i will never support anything that is going to cost my children their freedom.

 

[Stephen63]

So you have to assume they are lying when they said it was clearly and without doubt a plane ...you have to believe they are part of the great cover-up to be lying? right? thats the end of your logic.

Yep..... after all, that "plane" missed every light pole in the yard, & no engine was found. The tail section should have also been there with pieces of the wings.

There's NO WAY a plane could have gone thru the corner of the tower & eventually the top of the tower not fall off in the direction of that hole. Those towers should have never fell straight down from the hits, pancaking straight down.
Building 7 fell straight down with only a fire on the left corner of the building. See for yourself.

[video=youtube;972ETepp4GI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI[/video]

 

[Mitspa]

yes thats exactly what i am saying, they repeat what they are told and do not investigate anything.
my ancestors worked hard and gave their lives to make this country great, just like yours did. when i look at what our leaders are doing now, all i see is them undoing everything we fought for. everything and i mean everything they do is for the benefit of a tiny few and at the expense of the many. why in the world would anyone want to support that. i will never support anything that is going to cost my children their freedom.

Look our leaders are dumb and have made a mess because of their stupidity ...Add the liberal agenda and we have the mess today... But these folks are not the evil masterminds your conspiracy folks seem to want to make them...my goodness these folks can barely stay out of trouble the way it is .... Clowns and liberals we have an abundance ..evil masterminds that can think up such a complex conspiracy ..we have none. The reporters are left-wingers as well..with a agenda to protect leftist political thought...not CIA controlled agents.

 

[JonahLynx]

So you have to assume they are lying when they said it was clearly and without doubt a plane ...you have to believe they are part of the great cover-up to be lying? right? thats the end of your logic.

No. The end of my logic is that a 757 did not crash into the Pentagon. Whether people are lying or misinformed or partially correct is totally irrelevant to me. I do not care. I haven't met one person who can tell me with a straight face, after seeing actual pictures, that it was the scene of a plane crash.

A 757 skid across the lawn and hit the Pentagon horizontally?? Just wow. I can't even...

At least dignify my intelligence and tell me some lunatic got a hold of an RPG/ATGM.

 

[Mitspa]

Yep..... after all, that "plane" missed every light pole in the yard, & no engine was found. The tail section should have also been there with pieces of the wings.

There's NO WAY a plane could have gone thru the corner of the tower & eventually the top of the tower not fall off in the direction of that hole. Those towers should have never fell straight down from the hits, pancaking straight down.
Building 7 fell straight down with only a fire on the left corner of the building. See for yourself.

[video=youtube;972ETepp4GI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI[/video]

So who else is part of this great coverup? Purdue university ...all the engineers and the 150 people that said they seen the plane hit...all the Air traffic controllers.. all the government ..defense department and the reporters ...you guys don't even seem to understand the nonsense your trying to claim? I have already proven the FACT that a plane hit the pentagon ..yet you folks want to believe this insanity?

 

[Mitspa]

No. The end of my logic is that a 757 did not crash into the Pentagon. Whether people are lying or misinformed or partially correct is totally irrelevant to me. I do not care. I haven't met one person who can tell me with a straight face, after seeing actual pictures, that it was the scene of a plane crash.

A 757 skid across the lawn and hit the Pentagon horizontally?? Just wow. I can't even...

At least dignify my intelligence and tell me someone got a hold of an RPG.

Well I guess if your not willing to deal with the end of your own logic and not willing to look at the real evidence ..you will continue to live in the great lie.... Im assuming you refused to watch any of the videos that prove how silly what your saying is?

 

[Mitspa]

All I know to do for some of you is just keep posting videos that prove the insanity you have accepted....maybe some of you will one day actually want to know the truth?

[video=youtube;r_UYZITc_90]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_UYZITc_90[/video]

 

[Mitspa]

The conspiracy religion ..the greatest lie ever told .

 

[jaybird88]

Look our leaders are dumb and have made a mess because of their stupidity ...Add the liberal agenda and we have the mess today... But these folks are not the evil masterminds your conspiracy folks seem to want to make them...my goodness these folks can barely stay out of trouble the way it is .... Clowns and liberals we have an abundance ..evil masterminds that can think up such a complex conspiracy ..we have none. The reporters are left-wingers as well..with a agenda to protect leftist political thought...not CIA controlled agents.

i disagree, our leaders are far from stupid. many want to claim their policies are not working, but thats not true, the policies are just not working for you or me. wall street likes it, they get to work with more freedom everyday, yet we lose more everyday. i dont call that stupid decision making, i call it doing exactly how you planned, but we are not included in that planning.
did you know for every congressman there are 250 lobbyist. and trust me those lobbyist are not there for the benefit of us down home working folks.

 

[JonahLynx]

Well I guess if your not willing to deal with the end of your own logic and not willing to look at the real evidence ..you will continue to live in the great lie.... Im assuming you refused to watch any of the videos that prove how silly what your saying is?

I've probably watched every 9/11 video on youtube up until I realized how irrelevant my opinion is and how intellectually dishonest both sides are. I'm not living in any lie or theory, just stating a fact of what I see.

The pentagon pictures are all I care to see, and not one person has been able to lie to my face and tell me they still think a 757 crashed horizontally into that building after seeing it for themselves.

 

[Bushido8000]

Look our leaders are dumb and have made a mess because of their stupidity ...Add the liberal agenda and we have the mess today... But these folks are not the evil masterminds your conspiracy folks seem to want to make them...my goodness these folks can barely stay out of trouble the way it is .... Clowns and liberals we have an abundance ..evil masterminds that can think up such a complex conspiracy ..we have none. The reporters are left-wingers as well..with a agenda to protect leftist political thought...not CIA controlled agents.

Our leaders are dumb? Only 5% of Americans have IQs higher than 130. Clinton had an IQ of 148.8, George "the Freedom Killer" Bush scored 124.875. Obama's is estimated to be between 120 and 130. The average American's IQ is 100

These men also graduated from Ivy League schools.

Any "oopsies" these guys make are purely intentional. You don't become the leader of the most powerful country in the world by being dumb. All of Clinton's, Bush's, and Obama's "mistakes" have been incredible leaps towards Marxism.

 

[blue_ladybug]

To make the small hole that it did, at that angle, the plane that hit the Pentagon would literally have had to be rolling at high speed on the ground. Not to mention the plane would have received ALOT more damage than the building would have, especially at that high rate of speed. JMO

 

[GodIsSalvation]

I have heard the theories around the Pentagon incident on 9/11. They are quite popular. They can be blown away pretty easily though due to the large amount of proof such as the flight data recorders, debris fragments, confirmation that the Islamic hijackers were on board, and so forth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77

Really it's an easy one to figure out. Supposing it wasn't an aircraft that struck the Pentagon a major question would have to be asked about what happened to American Airlines Flight 77. Boeing 757s don't just disappear without anybody noticing.

 

[kaylagrl]

Our leaders are dumb? Only 5% of Americans have IQs higher than 130. Clinton had an IQ of 148.8, George "the Freedom Killer" Bush scored 124.875. Obama's is estimated to be between 120 and 130. The average American's IQ is 100

These men also graduated from Ivy League schools.

Any "oopsies" these guys make are purely intentional. You don't become the leader of the most powerful country in the world by being dumb. All of Clinton's, Bush's, and Obama's "mistakes" have been incredible leaps towards Marxism.

Quote " Clinton had an IQ of 148.8 "

Ya,but he still wasn't smart enough to know whether he had sex with that woman or not...