LOL..I never once said we are a slave to sin....that just makes me laugh....we are saying the complete opposite!..no wonder I don't have a clue what you were trying to allude to.....your conclusion of this so-called message of grace is totally wrong...we say the complete opposite....we say that the grace of the gospel of Christ leads us to lead godly lives in this present world....how in the world you came up with the nonsense that Christians are salves to sin and do not have victory in Christ..is baffling ...
Titus 2:11-12 (NASB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,
[SUP]12 [/SUP] instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age,
Titus 2:11-12 (NASB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,
[SUP]12 [/SUP] instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age,
Well you and a few others seem keen to say our flesh state is immaterial, all that matters is the new man. It doesn't matter how much you sin in the flesh, heaven is a done deal. You keep impressing we are a slave to sin in the flesh, sin is our master. It is all the negative side.
Yet Paul impresses holy living, sin not being your master. He has to mean your flesh for that is the only place you can sin.
I understand when a person first becomes a Christian they are a slave to sin. Paul tells us this in Romans 6, but they are to cross over to being a slave of righteousness leading to holiness, not remaining in the state they are when they come to Christ.
Your message of grace focuses on man being a slave to sin, not victory over sin. That is not Paul's message
Yet Paul impresses holy living, sin not being your master. He has to mean your flesh for that is the only place you can sin.
I understand when a person first becomes a Christian they are a slave to sin. Paul tells us this in Romans 6, but they are to cross over to being a slave of righteousness leading to holiness, not remaining in the state they are when they come to Christ.
Your message of grace focuses on man being a slave to sin, not victory over sin. That is not Paul's message