Many of Gods people are not taking care of themsleves properly. Why?

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JosephsDreams

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In my experience, many Christians are shaving off years of their lives due to their haphazard lifestyles.
They are depriving God of their service, and family members of their accumulated Godly wisdom, their love,
security and comfort.
We are supposed to be good stewards, and not wasteful, yet so many Christians are costing the government so much
money in health care costs. Not to mention their families, both financially and emotionally.
I spoke to a Christian man today, a Christian most of his life, he knows the word well, he has been friendly for a
long with a well known Christian Naturalpath doctor, and yet he does not think lifestyle has much to do with health
issues. That just utterly amazes me.
I am sure other Christians might think that way, and I am also sure many others are very ignorant about what the
bible says about diet and environment.
This is something that has confounded me for a long time.
 
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I admit it is stupid, but I smoke. I've tried to quit and will try again now that hubby quit the hard way, so he can come home to a smoke free house.

That said, When I hit menopause years ago, it wasn't the hot flashes that drove me nuts, although I certainly had them too. It was the night sweats. So I went to the gyn assuming he couldn't help me because I'm a smoker, but what did I have to lose? He wanted to put me on HRT. I repeated that I'm a smoker and then reminded him that the chances of HRT causing damage to a smoker was three times higher than a nonsmoker.

He shrugged. He said it was still quite a bit less than 1% chance even as a smoker.

Try thinking it out, instead of buying the "scientific studies say" blurbs popped all over the place. Do the research.

1. Looking at any given issue with a wider lens at who the study included and real percentages, you'll discover living-just-right does very little for your chances to live longer.

2. Nothing was left to chance. God is, so nothing is left to chance.

If it helps any, it utterly amazes me how many believers think a living-just-right attitude changes anything.
 

JosephsDreams

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I believe you are in grave error. Before life events interrupted, I was half way through a dietician degree, which I hope to finally complete before the end of this decade. I have also studied with a Christian nutritional doctor (ND). I had ulcerative colitis in my late 20's, early 30's, and the doctors said I was ultimately going to have undergo a stomach operation. I completely changed my diet and within about 1 month I felt about 90% better. The nutritionist friend/doctor I mentioned has seen over 10,000 clients over a 45 year period. I have personally been witness through dozens of healings from many, many different diseases, from life threatening ailments to minor maladies. So many different studies are available that testify to the importance of lifestyle that just to skim the service would probably take over a hundred pages on this thread.

I do not understand how mature Christians, regardless of education levels, could ignore the importance of lifestyle. There are many references in the bible that attest to this, and if one were even more curious, doing some deeper study would reveal even more.

I think it is almost, or probably, downright dangerous for believers to ignore the biblical based evidence.
The world even understands the benefits, and many Christians deny it??

Aren't we supposed to have a discernment about things the world is lacking?
Or to put it another way, how long or often have you or other Christians who have your mindset prayed about and studied this matter? I am willing to bet not often, if at all. And if I am wrong about that, then I humbly say, I suggest you did not hear correctly.

God bless. Please understand I am stating my thoughts in love.
 
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Crustyone

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When Daniel and his two friends were captured and offered the king's rich food, they asked for their less tasty, but more healthy food and were rewarded with better health than others who ate the king's food. One biblical reference Daniel 1:5-16 that describes this, tells us that the food part of lifestyle does make a difference.
 

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I admit it is stupid, but I smoke. I've tried to quit and will try again now that hubby quit the hard way, so he can come home to a smoke free house.

That said, When I hit menopause years ago, it wasn't the hot flashes that drove me nuts, although I certainly had them too. It was the night sweats. So I went to the gyn assuming he couldn't help me because I'm a smoker, but what did I have to lose? He wanted to put me on HRT. I repeated that I'm a smoker and then reminded him that the chances of HRT causing damage to a smoker was three times higher than a nonsmoker.

He shrugged. He said it was still quite a bit less than 1% chance even as a smoker.

Try thinking it out, instead of buying the "scientific studies say" blurbs popped all over the place. Do the research.

1. Looking at any given issue with a wider lens at who the study included and real percentages, you'll discover living-just-right does very little for your chances to live longer.

2. Nothing was left to chance. God is, so nothing is left to chance.

If it helps any, it utterly amazes me how many believers think a living-just-right attitude changes anything.
I'm not sure if what I want to say can be relayed on a post. Everything God made is good. Even when people say there are artificial ingredients those ingredients are from nature because no man has a magic wand making syenthitic stuff out of thin air. That being said there are animals, rocks, and vegetation and water. If we pray and give thanks for it it is sanctified by God. Every true hearted Christian would love to be in the best shape and eat the best they could and perhaps one day we will be able to. Until then do what I do and remember that nothing that enters the body can defile a person, even though our body is a temple and we are to not destroy our temple this doesn't change the the truth about it is what in our hearts that defile a person. Exercise profits little Godly living profits much!
 
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People are so deceived into this system, they will eat bad food even though the quality of the food is getting worse, because they do not want to admit the quality of the food is as bad as what it is. Most people want to party and go on vacations instead of taking personal responsibility for their lives. They do not want to admit society is disintegrating.
 

hornetguy

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I think it's wise to eat as healthful a diet as possible.. it's simply better for you. It is, however, a difficult thing to do. It takes planning and a change of how we view food. I don't think we can make it a doctrinal issue, however. Jesus taught moderation... I think that is key in MOST things we do.
 

JosephsDreams

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Jesus did not teach moderation. In fact He taught the opposite, to be perfect as our father is perfect. To sin, never.
To be not a part of this world, even moderately.
In fact Jesus said we can not have two masters.
Yes, lifestyle is not a doctrinal issue.
Outside of the Lord, and maybe family, is there anything more important to most people then their health?
 
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I can't speak for everyone but I have two words for why I've had a weight problem most if my life: Food addiction. Luckily I'm young and active so my weight hasn't given me too many issues. But in many ways food addiction is very difficult especially in an environment where there are so many food choices and most not good for you. I'm nearly over it now but it took moving out of America, finding a personal trainer, and a newly discovered passion for swordsmanship to do it... And every time I go back to America to visit, I gain weight.
 

JosephsDreams

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Food addiction is all the more insidious in these modern times because many, if not most, processed foods have ingredients that are chemically engineered to make you addicted to them.
Personally, I think some of what the big food companies are doing to food is bordering on, if it is not outright, criminal.
I call it the high cost of cheap food.
 
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In my experience, many Christians are shaving off years of their lives due to their haphazard lifestyles.
They are depriving God of their service, and family members of their accumulated Godly wisdom, their love,
security and comfort.
We are supposed to be good stewards, and not wasteful, yet so many Christians are costing the government so much
money in health care costs. Not to mention their families, both financially and emotionally.
I spoke to a Christian man today, a Christian most of his life, he knows the word well, he has been friendly for a
long with a well known Christian Naturalpath doctor, and yet he does not think lifestyle has much to do with health
issues. That just utterly amazes me.
I am sure other Christians might think that way, and I am also sure many others are very ignorant about what the
bible says about diet and environment.
This is something that has confounded me for a long time.
Lifestyle does plays a role in our health; but the lack of knowledge does plays a role as well. They are genetically modifying (GMO) the plants and animals that we eat. These products is the cause of most of our health issues that never had existed before. And so if someone goes on an strict Non-GMO diet or an organic diet, they will see that their health will be improving a lot. But this time it is not the people's lifestyle that is the main source to their health issues, but the politicians that are receiving bribes from corporate america.


[video]https://youtu.be/-sCIehUewUI[/video]

[video]https://youtu.be/LBq4cpVLzQw[/video]
 

JosephsDreams

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The whole system is insanely corrupt, yes. But we still have a choice to choose what we put in our bodies. Just going organic, non GMO, while a great benefit, is not near enough. We have to stay away from most, if not all, highly processed, organic or not. We have to eat more raw foods, less animal products. We have to stop eating late at night, like really anytime past 8pm-ish. I did not watch the videos yet, but I will.
 
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hornetguy.....us Americans are so spoiled. Even Chris Rock declared "There are NO lactose intolerant people in Ethiopia", and he is correct. Only in America do we have obesity at such high levels. Only in America do we process everything we eat. I once knew a CHRISTIAN missionary to central America, who was also a nutritionist. He had served in a village deep in a remote jungle where he found people very primitive, living daily in natural poverty. What he did see was small,thin but very strong people working hard, carrying heavy water pots on their heads, pulling plows, and surviving into their nineties and beyond. Soon, relieve came into the little village. Tons of food arrived in boxes, cans and jugs. These people quickly embraced the delicious tasting snacks, carbonated drinks, and more. A year or so later, this nutritionist noticed a more lazy type of attitude change in the village. Little women no longer had the stamina to carry the water pots. Little pot-bellies started appearing in the midsection. People were sleeping much later and stopping their work days sooner. Less effort was used to do daily chores. Various reverse effects were happening on their bodies. Some began to develop body sagging, skin ailments, and muscular failure. Need I say more?
 

JosephsDreams

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If anyone is skeptical of pwrn just read, pick up a copy of T. Colin Campbell's "The China Study". I think it was published in 1992 or '93.
 

JosephsDreams

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Lifestyle does plays a role in our health; but the lack of knowledge does plays a role as well. They are genetically modifying (GMO) the plants and animals that we eat. These products is the cause of most of our health issues that never had existed before. And so if someone goes on an strict Non-GMO diet or an organic diet, they will see that their health will be improving a lot. But this time it is not the people's lifestyle that is the main source to their health issues, but the politicians that are receiving bribes from corporate america.


[video]https://youtu.be/-sCIehUewUI[/video]

[video]https://youtu.be/LBq4cpVLzQw[/video]
Ah, Monsanto and vaccines.
Monsanto is one of the most evil companies on the planet.
As far as vaccines, according to most studies, they do more harm then good.
 

Rosemaryx

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In my experience, many Christians are shaving off years of their lives due to their haphazard lifestyles.
They are depriving God of their service, and family members of their accumulated Godly wisdom, their love,
security and comfort.
We are supposed to be good stewards, and not wasteful, yet so many Christians are costing the government so much
money in health care costs. Not to mention their families, both financially and emotionally.
I spoke to a Christian man today, a Christian most of his life, he knows the word well, he has been friendly for a
long with a well known Christian Naturalpath doctor, and yet he does not think lifestyle has much to do with health
issues. That just utterly amazes me.
I am sure other Christians might think that way, and I am also sure many others are very ignorant about what the
bible says about diet and environment.
This is something that has confounded me for a long time.
I agree with you...I am type 2 diabetic, and since giving my life to the Lord over a year ago, it is only through Gods Word telling me how to live a healthy life style I am managing to keep my levels out of the danger zone, plus i have lot`s nearly 2 half stone, our body is His temple, that made me very aware of what goes in my mouth, i have also give up smoking although i must admit i do use the e-cig, God is also working on my alcohol intake, i used to binge, but now i have a few and the times i do drink are are not often, all i can say is Praise the Lord...xox...Iit was not easy with the alcohol, but the way I was eating i could never go back, as for the e-cig, i know the Lord will break that to when i submit it to Him...
 

JosephsDreams

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I agree with you...I am type 2 diabetic, and since giving my life to the Lord over a year ago, it is only through Gods Word telling me how to live a healthy life style I am managing to keep my levels out of the danger zone, plus i have lot`s nearly 2 half stone, our body is His temple, that made me very aware of what goes in my mouth, i have also give up smoking although i must admit i do use the e-cig, God is also working on my alcohol intake, i used to binge, but now i have a few and the times i do drink are are not often, all i can say is Praise the Lord...xox...Iit was not easy with the alcohol, but the way I was eating i could never go back, as for the e-cig, i know the Lord will break that to when i submit it to Him...
Praise God. Keep it going. I love hearing testimonies like this!
 
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I admit it is stupid, but I smoke
Actually that's sinful... do you ask the Lord to forgive you after every puff of poison you suck into His Temple???

Start treating this "habit" as sin, and it'll be easier to quit... either that or you'll backslide to just keep your beloved ciggarettes!

Yeah, been there done that... I used to smoke 1 to 2 packs a day on days I wasn't drinking booze heavily... 3 to 4 on heavy booze days.

It is an intoxicant and proven to dammage the body so this makes smoking a sin...
 

Gabriel2020

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St. Mark ; 7;14 ;and when he had called all the people unto him,he said unto them. Hearken unto me every one of you.,and understand. 15; There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him;but the things which come out of him,those are they that defile the man., if any man have ears to hear, let him hear..You can't defile the temple by smoking, which is the same body you live in. All the sinful acts that are forbidden using your body is defiling it. If a man destroy the temple of God ,him will God destroy.. That means if someone kills a spirit filled Christian where the spirit dwells, God will in turn destroy that person.. And if that spirit filled person destroys the temple ,how can God destroy him again. the only thing that is left is judment.
 
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Gabriel2020

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COLOSSIANS;2;20-23;Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why ,as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, 21; Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22; Which all are to perish with the using; after the commandments and doctrines of men? 23'Which things have indeed a show of wisdom in will-worship,and humility,and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh............................. Rudiments are principles, undeveloped or imperfect knowledge. will-worship is human will ,not divine will.