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I will leave this short understanding of "acceptance grace"....before I go...just so that people know what is meant by "acceptance grace"...
There are 2 aspects to grace.
1) acceptance grace - which has nothing to do with our behavior - as seen with the woman caught in adultery. Our Lord beautifully says " I do not condemn you". It is in knowing you are not condemned that releases the other aspect of grace.
2) now, go and sin no more - this is empowering grace. Empowering grace enables you to be who the Father sees you are in Christ now.
The religious mindset says to the woman caught in adultery - 'Do not sin and we will not condemn you." The grace of God speaks of better things!
Knowing that we are not condemned in Christ "releases" the life of the empowering grace to transform us. It's all about Christ! It's His fruit being manifested in us!
Acceptance grace which is not based on our behavior needs to be cemented in our hearts before empowering grace is able to be manifested.
What believers in a self-effort/self-performance D.I.Y. holiness/righteousness based gospel have a very hard time with is the "acceptance grace" part...this just drives them nuts...and I understand why..it is scandalous!
There are 2 aspects to grace.
1) acceptance grace - which has nothing to do with our behavior - as seen with the woman caught in adultery. Our Lord beautifully says " I do not condemn you". It is in knowing you are not condemned that releases the other aspect of grace.
2) now, go and sin no more - this is empowering grace. Empowering grace enables you to be who the Father sees you are in Christ now.
The religious mindset says to the woman caught in adultery - 'Do not sin and we will not condemn you." The grace of God speaks of better things!
Knowing that we are not condemned in Christ "releases" the life of the empowering grace to transform us. It's all about Christ! It's His fruit being manifested in us!
Acceptance grace which is not based on our behavior needs to be cemented in our hearts before empowering grace is able to be manifested.
What believers in a self-effort/self-performance D.I.Y. holiness/righteousness based gospel have a very hard time with is the "acceptance grace" part...this just drives them nuts...and I understand why..it is scandalous!
Human definition of life -
Mind, body, soul. Mind, your thinking presence, body is your physical presence and soul your innate internal presence.
Hyper-grace - Spirit, soul, body.
Now your spirit is replaced with a new spirit from heaven, pure and cannot sin.
Souls and body need to be trained in righteousness.
Now this is a new division of the human condition. The mind has disappeared and the spirit added.
Now when I last looked I am mind, body, soul.
My mind is a tool of rational thought, my soul is my presence and emotions that define how I am reacting to life, and my body is my physical presence.
I do not have a 4th part of me which is my spirit. If you replace my soul, I am dead and another person is alive in me.
The language of hyper-grace is trying to separate out the driving centre of who I am, or my spiritual side. But there is no separation like this in biblical theology.
The bible uses words like a new creation, born again, cleansing. But this is transforming and changing that which is already there. The responsibility is on us.
"I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,and they will be my people.
No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest."
Heb 6:10-11
God is saying His people will have a relationship with Him, so they will obey the law from the heart.
If you talk against the law you are by nature not in the covenant because the law is not on your heart.
If you talk about the law of righteousness and love, you walk by faith.
Mind, body, soul. Mind, your thinking presence, body is your physical presence and soul your innate internal presence.
Hyper-grace - Spirit, soul, body.
Now your spirit is replaced with a new spirit from heaven, pure and cannot sin.
Souls and body need to be trained in righteousness.
Now this is a new division of the human condition. The mind has disappeared and the spirit added.
Now when I last looked I am mind, body, soul.
My mind is a tool of rational thought, my soul is my presence and emotions that define how I am reacting to life, and my body is my physical presence.
I do not have a 4th part of me which is my spirit. If you replace my soul, I am dead and another person is alive in me.
The language of hyper-grace is trying to separate out the driving centre of who I am, or my spiritual side. But there is no separation like this in biblical theology.
The bible uses words like a new creation, born again, cleansing. But this is transforming and changing that which is already there. The responsibility is on us.
"I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,and they will be my people.
No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest."
Heb 6:10-11
God is saying His people will have a relationship with Him, so they will obey the law from the heart.
If you talk against the law you are by nature not in the covenant because the law is not on your heart.
If you talk about the law of righteousness and love, you walk by faith.
"I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts" Heb 6:10
In seeing the cross, listening to Jesus and his commands, in understanding God made man, Gods heart communes with our hearts. It is this communion that turns us into children of God, transforming our minds into the mind of Christ.
It is a choice and a work of effort and soul, driven by the love of Jesus and God.
In seeing the cross, listening to Jesus and his commands, in understanding God made man, Gods heart communes with our hearts. It is this communion that turns us into children of God, transforming our minds into the mind of Christ.
It is a choice and a work of effort and soul, driven by the love of Jesus and God.
I have never met a christian who is grace hating, ever.
In my mind I have this picture of a sinner lost in sin, but believing Jesus. Jesus comes and says simply follow me.
Help that person there, forgive that person who hurt you, pray for the person in need, do not get angry when provoked, love your enemy who wishes bad of you.
The sinner turns and says how. Jesus shows His hands and side, the love that empowered Him, the forgiveness he gave and love fills the believers heart. The sinner now sees other sinners as Jesus saw them, in need and lost.
Now everywhere around the world this is the experience of followers of Jesus, down through the centuries, for thousands of years. It is a simple story of priorities and faithfullness, seeing love conquer the most horrible evils man can create.
And it is this story they are calling carnal and lost. To them it is a sinner proving themselves to God, when it is a sinner following and being transformed by Jesus. Without Jesus none of this is possible, but take heart, with him everything is possible that needs to be possible.
In my mind I have this picture of a sinner lost in sin, but believing Jesus. Jesus comes and says simply follow me.
Help that person there, forgive that person who hurt you, pray for the person in need, do not get angry when provoked, love your enemy who wishes bad of you.
The sinner turns and says how. Jesus shows His hands and side, the love that empowered Him, the forgiveness he gave and love fills the believers heart. The sinner now sees other sinners as Jesus saw them, in need and lost.
Now everywhere around the world this is the experience of followers of Jesus, down through the centuries, for thousands of years. It is a simple story of priorities and faithfullness, seeing love conquer the most horrible evils man can create.
And it is this story they are calling carnal and lost. To them it is a sinner proving themselves to God, when it is a sinner following and being transformed by Jesus. Without Jesus none of this is possible, but take heart, with him everything is possible that needs to be possible.
There are lot's of religious people that exhibit grace-hating now as there was in Jesus day. Some pharisaical types fall under the grace-hating aspect but I think the grace-fearing is the most prevalent form that occurs.
If there are no 10 commandments what will we live by? This is what staggers law-based believers and thus there is a fear of accepting the fullness of the grace of the gospel of Christ.
We live by the law of life in Christ now!....we live from the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus...by the law of love..by the law of liberty in Christ ......these laws now in Christ transcends all mosaic laws and it fact the law of love fulfills all the law.
But herein lies the rub for the grace-fearers among us.......if there are no rules but to live from the life of Christ inside of us....what is to stop us from going crazy and sinning all we want?..when you preach the gospel to me..that is what I am hearing.....can we really trust the Holy Spirit in us???...can we really trust the life of Christ in us and the Father in us too?..are mad?..we need them rules to keep us in check.
What grieves God is not giving out words of grace to people....grace is the gospel of Christ and in His finished work for us.
Ephesians 4:29-30 (NASB)
Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear. Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
The only time recorded that Jesus was angered ..was when the religious people refused to allow grace to be shown to someone that needed Jesus ....the religious folk had "their" holiness rules.....and so..were refusing the grace of God to come to people..but Jesus our Lord stepped in as He always will for us,...this scripture below is an example of the grace-haters in action.
Mark 3:4-5 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
If there are no 10 commandments what will we live by? This is what staggers law-based believers and thus there is a fear of accepting the fullness of the grace of the gospel of Christ.
We live by the law of life in Christ now!....we live from the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus...by the law of love..by the law of liberty in Christ ......these laws now in Christ transcends all mosaic laws and it fact the law of love fulfills all the law.
But herein lies the rub for the grace-fearers among us.......if there are no rules but to live from the life of Christ inside of us....what is to stop us from going crazy and sinning all we want?..when you preach the gospel to me..that is what I am hearing.....can we really trust the Holy Spirit in us???...can we really trust the life of Christ in us and the Father in us too?..are mad?..we need them rules to keep us in check.
What grieves God is not giving out words of grace to people....grace is the gospel of Christ and in His finished work for us.
Ephesians 4:29-30 (NASB)
Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear. Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
The only time recorded that Jesus was angered ..was when the religious people refused to allow grace to be shown to someone that needed Jesus ....the religious folk had "their" holiness rules.....and so..were refusing the grace of God to come to people..but Jesus our Lord stepped in as He always will for us,...this scripture below is an example of the grace-haters in action.
Mark 3:4-5 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
The funny thing with this kind of statement is it is so empty. How many people do you know who read the law and tick off their successes and failures. No, people just go about their daily lives, so occasionally turn to God, and on sundays turn up to church for whatever personal reason that drives them.
This is a straw man argument, and not actually relevant. What is relevant is people seeing love in their lives and a lack of conflict with those close to them.
And what is Grace7x77 answer to this, the blood. What makes me laugh is this is the most religious response you could imagine. Now if I talk care, love, emotions, repentance, saying sorry, empathy, getting things right that is legalistic works.
So in the area of real faith hyper-grace fails, in the area of real life resolution hyper-grace fails, in the area of morality and behaviour, hyper-grace fails. It is like a key has been thrown, and every good avenue for resolution and life has been blocked off.
When Jesus was faced with people who followed the law perfectly what was His answer? If you want to be perfect give your money to the poor and come follow me. Not exactly a prosperity gospel summary.
This is a straw man argument, and not actually relevant. What is relevant is people seeing love in their lives and a lack of conflict with those close to them.
And what is Grace7x77 answer to this, the blood. What makes me laugh is this is the most religious response you could imagine. Now if I talk care, love, emotions, repentance, saying sorry, empathy, getting things right that is legalistic works.
So in the area of real faith hyper-grace fails, in the area of real life resolution hyper-grace fails, in the area of morality and behaviour, hyper-grace fails. It is like a key has been thrown, and every good avenue for resolution and life has been blocked off.
When Jesus was faced with people who followed the law perfectly what was His answer? If you want to be perfect give your money to the poor and come follow me. Not exactly a prosperity gospel summary.
Here is a perfect example of religious people sounding so pious and trying to 'defend their D.I.Y righteousness/holiness"...but in effect are grace-haters and grace-fearing too..
John 9
As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” [SUP]
3 [/SUP]Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Having said these things, he spit on the ground and made mud with the saliva. Then he anointed the man's eyes with the mud
[SUP]7 [/SUP]and said to him, “Go, wash in the pool of Siloam” (which means Sent). So he went and washed and came back seeing.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]The neighbors and those who had seen him before as a beggar were saying, “Is this not the man who used to sit and beg?” [SUP]9 [/SUP]Some said, “It is he.” Others said, “No, but he is like him.” He kept saying, “I am the man.”
[SUP]10 [/SUP]So they said to him, “Then how were your eyes opened?”
[SUP]11 [/SUP]He answered, “The man called Jesus made mud and anointed my eyes and said to me, ‘Go to Siloam and wash.’ So I went and washed and received my sight.”
[SUP]12 [/SUP]They said to him, “Where is he?” He said, “I do not know.”
[SUP]13 [/SUP]They brought to the Pharisees the man who had formerly been blind.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Now it was a Sabbath day when Jesus made the mud and opened his eyes. ( I'm pretty sure Jesus does this on purpose as a lot of His healings were done on their Sabbath day )
[SUP]15 [/SUP]So the Pharisees again asked him how he had received his sight. And he said to them, “He put mud on my eyes, and I washed, and I see.”
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” (typical religious attack again..He doesn't keep the Law..He is lawless ) But others said, “How can a man who is a sinner do such signs?” And there was a division among them.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]So they said again to the blind man, “What do you say about him, since he has opened your eyes?” He said, “He is a prophet.” ( typical response to grace being displayed ..this man being attacked)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]The Jews did not believe that he had been blind and had received his sight, until they called the parents of the man who had received his sight
[SUP]19 [/SUP]and asked them, “Is this your son, who you say was born blind? How then does he now see?”
[SUP]20 [/SUP]His parents answered, “We know that this is our son and that he was born blind. [SUP]
21 [/SUP]But how he now sees we do not know, nor do we know who opened his eyes. Ask him; he is of age. He will speak for himself.” [SUP]
22 [/SUP](His parents said these things because they feared the Jews, for the Jews had already agreed that if anyone should confess Jesus[SUP][b][/SUP] to be Christ, he was to be put out of the synagogue.)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Therefore his parents said, “He is of age; ask him.”
[SUP]24 [/SUP]So for the second time they called the man who had been blind and said to him, “Give glory to God. We know that this man is a sinner.” ( typical religious sounding words )[SUP]
25 [/SUP]He answered, “Whether he is a sinner I do not know. One thing I do know, that though I was blind, now I see.” (typical response from a person that now "sees" the grace of Christ in them )
[SUP]26 [/SUP]They said to him, “What did he do to you? How did he open your eyes?”
[SUP]27 [/SUP]He answered them, “I have told you already, and you would not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you also want to become his disciples?” ( how many times do we keep saying the same things over and over again? )
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And they reviled him, saying, “You are his disciple, but we are disciples of Moses. (typical D.I.Y righteousness/holiness types response )
[SUP]29 [/SUP]We know that God has spoken to Moses, but as for this man, we do not know where he comes from.” ( typical D.I.Y righteousness/holiness types response )
[SUP]30 [/SUP]The man answered, “Why, this is an amazing thing! You do not know where he comes from, and yet he opened my eyes. [SUP]
31 [/SUP]We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him. [SUP]
32 [/SUP]Never since the world began has it been heard that anyone opened the eyes of a man born blind. [SUP]
33 [/SUP]If this man were not from God, he could do nothing.” [SUP]
34 [/SUP]They answered him, “You were born in utter sin, and would you teach us?” And they cast him out. ( again typical D.I.Y holiness types response )
[SUP]35 [/SUP]Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?”
[SUP]36 [/SUP]He answered, “And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?”
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you.” [SUP]
38 [/SUP]He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him. ( this is the response of us to the grace of the gospel of Christ shown to us )
[SUP]39 [/SUP]Jesus said, “For judgment I came into this world, that those who do not see may see, and those who see may become blind.”
[SUP]
40 [/SUP]Some of the Pharisees near him heard these things, and said to him, “Are we also blind?”
[SUP]41 [/SUP]Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains
John 9
As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” [SUP]
3 [/SUP]Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Having said these things, he spit on the ground and made mud with the saliva. Then he anointed the man's eyes with the mud
[SUP]7 [/SUP]and said to him, “Go, wash in the pool of Siloam” (which means Sent). So he went and washed and came back seeing.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]The neighbors and those who had seen him before as a beggar were saying, “Is this not the man who used to sit and beg?” [SUP]9 [/SUP]Some said, “It is he.” Others said, “No, but he is like him.” He kept saying, “I am the man.”
[SUP]10 [/SUP]So they said to him, “Then how were your eyes opened?”
[SUP]11 [/SUP]He answered, “The man called Jesus made mud and anointed my eyes and said to me, ‘Go to Siloam and wash.’ So I went and washed and received my sight.”
[SUP]12 [/SUP]They said to him, “Where is he?” He said, “I do not know.”
[SUP]13 [/SUP]They brought to the Pharisees the man who had formerly been blind.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Now it was a Sabbath day when Jesus made the mud and opened his eyes. ( I'm pretty sure Jesus does this on purpose as a lot of His healings were done on their Sabbath day )
[SUP]15 [/SUP]So the Pharisees again asked him how he had received his sight. And he said to them, “He put mud on my eyes, and I washed, and I see.”
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” (typical religious attack again..He doesn't keep the Law..He is lawless ) But others said, “How can a man who is a sinner do such signs?” And there was a division among them.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]So they said again to the blind man, “What do you say about him, since he has opened your eyes?” He said, “He is a prophet.” ( typical response to grace being displayed ..this man being attacked)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]The Jews did not believe that he had been blind and had received his sight, until they called the parents of the man who had received his sight
[SUP]19 [/SUP]and asked them, “Is this your son, who you say was born blind? How then does he now see?”
[SUP]20 [/SUP]His parents answered, “We know that this is our son and that he was born blind. [SUP]
21 [/SUP]But how he now sees we do not know, nor do we know who opened his eyes. Ask him; he is of age. He will speak for himself.” [SUP]
22 [/SUP](His parents said these things because they feared the Jews, for the Jews had already agreed that if anyone should confess Jesus[SUP][b][/SUP] to be Christ, he was to be put out of the synagogue.)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Therefore his parents said, “He is of age; ask him.”
[SUP]24 [/SUP]So for the second time they called the man who had been blind and said to him, “Give glory to God. We know that this man is a sinner.” ( typical religious sounding words )[SUP]
25 [/SUP]He answered, “Whether he is a sinner I do not know. One thing I do know, that though I was blind, now I see.” (typical response from a person that now "sees" the grace of Christ in them )
[SUP]26 [/SUP]They said to him, “What did he do to you? How did he open your eyes?”
[SUP]27 [/SUP]He answered them, “I have told you already, and you would not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you also want to become his disciples?” ( how many times do we keep saying the same things over and over again? )
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And they reviled him, saying, “You are his disciple, but we are disciples of Moses. (typical D.I.Y righteousness/holiness types response )
[SUP]29 [/SUP]We know that God has spoken to Moses, but as for this man, we do not know where he comes from.” ( typical D.I.Y righteousness/holiness types response )
[SUP]30 [/SUP]The man answered, “Why, this is an amazing thing! You do not know where he comes from, and yet he opened my eyes. [SUP]
31 [/SUP]We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him. [SUP]
32 [/SUP]Never since the world began has it been heard that anyone opened the eyes of a man born blind. [SUP]
33 [/SUP]If this man were not from God, he could do nothing.” [SUP]
34 [/SUP]They answered him, “You were born in utter sin, and would you teach us?” And they cast him out. ( again typical D.I.Y holiness types response )
[SUP]35 [/SUP]Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?”
[SUP]36 [/SUP]He answered, “And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?”
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you.” [SUP]
38 [/SUP]He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him. ( this is the response of us to the grace of the gospel of Christ shown to us )
[SUP]39 [/SUP]Jesus said, “For judgment I came into this world, that those who do not see may see, and those who see may become blind.”
[SUP]
40 [/SUP]Some of the Pharisees near him heard these things, and said to him, “Are we also blind?”
[SUP]41 [/SUP]Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains
Once again, the Bible says that without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. You've stated that all of our sins are not forgiven, they are being forgiven - which simply means they are not forgiven yet.
So, unless Jesus goes back to the cross, how will your future sins be forgiven? They cannot be, without blood being shed.
The Bible says: " For by one sacrifice, He (Jesus) has made perfect forever those who are being sanctified." (Hebrews 10:14)
We have been made perfect, forever, by one sacrifice. If that is indeed true, what more must be done, by us or Christ?
Nothing.
It is finished. Jesus sat down at the right hand of the Father, and will not go back to the cross again.
We are not forgiven progressively, as you believe. We have been forgiven of all our sins, for all time.
"Unlike the other High Priests, He (Jesus) does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for His own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when He offered up Himself." (Hebrews 7:27)
So, unless Jesus goes back to the cross, how will your future sins be forgiven? They cannot be, without blood being shed.
The Bible says: " For by one sacrifice, He (Jesus) has made perfect forever those who are being sanctified." (Hebrews 10:14)
We have been made perfect, forever, by one sacrifice. If that is indeed true, what more must be done, by us or Christ?
Nothing.
It is finished. Jesus sat down at the right hand of the Father, and will not go back to the cross again.
We are not forgiven progressively, as you believe. We have been forgiven of all our sins, for all time.
"Unlike the other High Priests, He (Jesus) does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for His own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when He offered up Himself." (Hebrews 7:27)
Please prove that from the Bible.
It seems you simply glossed over these:
The Bible says: " For by one sacrifice, He (Jesus) has made perfect forever those who are being sanctified." (Hebrews 10:14)
"Unlike the other High Priests, He (Jesus) does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for His own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when He offered up Himself." (Hebrews 7:27)
Jesus is not "making" atonement - He made it. "Sacrificed" not "sacrificing".
One sacrifice. once for all.
The blood cleanses, not cleansed.
We have a high priest in the holy of holies right now cleansing his people's sins with his blood.
But if we walk in the light as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. 1 John 1:7
We have a high priest in the holy of holies right now cleansing his people's sins with his blood.
[Christ], because he continues forever, holds the priesthood permanently. Therefore also he is able to save completely those who draw near to God through him, [because he] always lives in order to intercede on their behalf. Hebrews 7:24-25
Amen!
The blood of our Lord Jesus continually "speaks" of better things. It always has and always will be there in heaven as a testimony of our continual forgiveness and redemption bought with the precious blood of our Lord Jesus. It speaks in the present tense to us of our complete forgiveness in Him. This is why our forgiveness is in a completed state in Him continuously.
We have a complete salvation in Him. He is awesome and mighty to save!
Hebrews 12:22-24 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels,
[SUP]23 [/SUP] to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, ( perfect passive )
[SUP]24 [/SUP] and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks ( present tense ) better than the blood of Abel.
Perfect tense = The basic thought of the perfect tense is that the progress of an action has been completed and the results of the action are continuing on, in full effect. In other words, the progress of the action has reached its culmination and the finished results are now in existence. Unlike the English perfect, which indicates a completed past action, the Greek perfect tense indicates the continuation and present state of a completed past action.
Passive voice = this means the action is happening to you - you are not doing it
I absolutely love the perfect passive being together in the words that describe the Lord's finished work on our behalf so that we could be in union with Him and the Father forever...united by Their love for each other and us.
The blood of our Lord cries out for forgiveness and grace which is why it speaks of better things then the blood of Abel - his blood cried out for vengeance.
Nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord! Thank you Lord!
This knowledge of Him...makes me bow in awe and reverence and I am completely overcome by His great love for us!
The blood of our Lord Jesus continually "speaks" of better things. It always has and always will be there in heaven as a testimony of our continual forgiveness and redemption bought with the precious blood of our Lord Jesus. It speaks in the present tense to us of our complete forgiveness in Him. This is why our forgiveness is in a completed state in Him continuously.
We have a complete salvation in Him. He is awesome and mighty to save!
Hebrews 12:22-24 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels,
[SUP]23 [/SUP] to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, ( perfect passive )
[SUP]24 [/SUP] and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks ( present tense ) better than the blood of Abel.
Perfect tense = The basic thought of the perfect tense is that the progress of an action has been completed and the results of the action are continuing on, in full effect. In other words, the progress of the action has reached its culmination and the finished results are now in existence. Unlike the English perfect, which indicates a completed past action, the Greek perfect tense indicates the continuation and present state of a completed past action.
Passive voice = this means the action is happening to you - you are not doing it
I absolutely love the perfect passive being together in the words that describe the Lord's finished work on our behalf so that we could be in union with Him and the Father forever...united by Their love for each other and us.
The blood of our Lord cries out for forgiveness and grace which is why it speaks of better things then the blood of Abel - his blood cried out for vengeance.
Nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord! Thank you Lord!
This knowledge of Him...makes me bow in awe and reverence and I am completely overcome by His great love for us!
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