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GaryA

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YOU said the wings were sheered off. Prove it. Show it -- outside of the building...

"Show me two wings-worth of wing parts in the pictures."

Remember, the wings include - not only the skin of the wing - but also - the sketetal / structural framework of the wing.......... and fuel tanks.......... and landing gear.......... ;)

Show me all of that in those pictures.

:)
OH ----- and engines..........

( "I just knew I forgot to put something in that list..." :D :rolleyes: :eek: )

:)
 
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This is how it is with conspiracy nuts. They claim to search for truth, and in this case you asked specifically for evidence and proof that your conspiracy theories about the Pentagon were ludicrous. I did just that. But as always, a conspiracy nut will just move on to more minutia to debate over. You won't post that you were completely wrong about the Pentagon and that evidence has proven that flight 77 struck the Pentagon, not a missile. Nope. You'll just move on to some other crazy theory, because you have an endless supply of them. Each time they are easily proven to be bogus, you'll refuse to admit it and move on to Israeli art students of something that will shock me to the core. Do you understand that your brain is severely damaged and that you are sick and need help? See a doctor. Don't hang out on the internet. It is poison for you. It feeds your fantasies. It has probably destroyed your marriage and alienated you from former friends. If you attend a church, it's a sure bet they stay a safe distance from you and try not to make eye contact with you or get caught up in a conversation with you. I wouldn't blame them. Please, get help and get far away from this forum.
lol, I'm blessed with a beautiful family ;), thanks for asking. I'm not going to say what hit the pentagon, because I don't know exactly what it was and neither do you. As I said, there's HUNDREDS of cameras in the area, it's the pentagon, The video that was released leaves NOTHING but speculation. The experts " pilots " say the maneuver is impossible, take it up with them. You do nothing but divert, twist, and distort. You think you can confuse the people here by distorting facts, creating drama, and name calling. More and more facts have come fourth, you just refuse to talk about them like the videos above, that's ok stay in your shelter little world where you trust everything and everyone is your friend. I think your confused and blind, my advice wouldn't be to see a doctor, it would be to see God, that's who you need a convo with.

What about the Saudis that were plastered all over the tv, saying they were the hijackers only to find out they are home and well, suing the fbi ... For being falsely accused.


Please, expose the facts of the Israeli art students to not be true, and the other Israeli that were arrested on that day. You won't, we know that, but spew your hatred and show us what your really all about.
 
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YOU said the wings were sheered off. Prove it. Show it -- outside of the building...

"Show me two wings-worth of wing parts in the pictures."

Remember, the wings include - not only the skin of the wing - but also - the sketetal / structural framework of the wing.......... and fuel tanks.......... and landing gear.......... ;)

Show me all of that in those pictures.

:)
Other than the one on the top of your head, what is your point? Look at the amazing documentation of the crash, as posted above. What else do you need? The plane crashed into the building. Into means it went into. It created a 76 foot wide hole. Parts of the plane can clearly be seen on the ground. Other parts were inside the building. What more do you need? Just say it wasn't a missile. It won't kill you to admit it. I did not investigate the crash. Quit asking me to go into details. The details are listed above for you to read. Read them. Professional airplane crash investigators stated what they saw was clear evidence of the airliners hitting the building. Hundreds of people witnessed it hit the building. What are you fishing for here? Do you need to see an intact wing section? Has there ever been a crash like this that left entire intact pieces of planes to view? What was left behind was what was expected to be left behind, accept by conspiracy nuts. They want something more. I'm not sure what.

Why don't you explain what you believe happened at the Pentagon. Tell us who shot off the missile. You in our military shot a missile at our military headquarters? Did it hit at the same time as the airliner? Was there a flight 77? Were the passengers all murdered by the same people who shot the missile? What happened to flight 77? How do you explain all the eyewitnesses that watched the plane circle and crash into the Pentagon. Were they also part of the conspiracy? Have they since been murdered? Go ahead and tell us your version.


Here is my idea of what you conspiracy nuts look like when trying to convince people of your crazy theories...

 
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sydlit

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How are we supposed to prove any of this,
when everyone knows that part of the conspiracy
was to have a team of midgets scurry onto the field
and vacuum up all the debris before
Mr. Nikon A. Camera could yell, 'Smile! Pictures please!' ;)
 
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GaryA

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What is wrong with you? the plane flew into the Pentagon in broad daylight, with actual human eyewitnesses standing nearby, watching it happen. The plane didn't fly two feet off the ground for twenty miles. It slightly scrapped the ground just a millisecond before it struck the Pentagon. It had been descending dramatically prior, just like commercial airliners do as they come to landing fields. Go ahead and post those "many" videos of 757 pilots saying and showing the maneuvers done by the plane could not be done. Put up or please shut up.

The hole in the side of the Pentagon looked like the wings did not penetrate the heavily reinforced concrete walls. It's called structural science. The wings sheered off. The bulkier fuselage had tremendous momentum and the speed allowed it to penetrate through numerous walls. Thousands of people were at the scene. They discovered thousands of pieces of evidence, including plane parts and luggage and human pieces and jewelry and clothing.

There is never real evidence to support conspiracy theories, They like to pretend there is. They always talk about experts that told them something was impossible and they see that as proof enough. It doesn't matter if 20,000 other 757 pilots came forward saying there was nothing unusual or extraordinary about the approach path the airliner took. All you need is one drunk former pilot to say otherwise and it's off to the conspiracy races you go.

At least you are somewhat contained here on the conspiracy forum, where you can do the least damage to the reputation of the site. Perhaps the moderator will institute a new rule that will only allow you to post on this one forum and never spread your insanity to the other forums.
What are you fishing for here?
"I'm not 'fishing' for anything..."


In post #481 - after saying:

"Put up or please shut up."

-- you made the statement:

"The wings sheered off."


Weeeeeeeeeelllll -- you know what they say...

"Turn-about is fair play."


You seemed to be demanding that everyone else prove every-little-detail of what they were saying. The way I figure it -- you should, too! :p


I just wanted to see if you could actually answer a specific question about a specific part of the scenario - based on a statement that you made ( as if knew what you were talking about ). ;)


( "I guess not..." )


I just thought it would be nice to see you actually make any effort at all to give some specific, detailed "proof" for something that you said. ( as opposed to the 2,000,000 word wall-of-text copy-and-paste larger-than-anyone-would-want-to-read tomes you have been posting )


:)
 
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"I'm not 'fishing' for anything..."


In post #481 - after saying:

"Put up or please shut up."

-- you made the statement:

"The wings sheered off."


Weeeeeeeeeelllll -- you know what they say...

"Turn-about is fair play."


You seemed to be demanding that everyone else prove every-little-detail of what they were saying. The way I figure it -- you should, too! :p


I just wanted to see if you could actually answer a specific question about a specific part of the scenario - based on a statement that you made ( as if knew what you were talking about ). ;)


( "I guess not..." )


I just thought it would be nice to see you actually make any effort at all to give some specific, detailed "proof" for something that you said. ( as opposed to the 2,000,000 word wall-of-text copy-and-paste larger-than-anyone-would-want-to-read tomes you have been posting )


:)
OK, I'll do this as an example for you to follow. I was wrong. Get it. I knew the plane hit the building. I had done zero research and felt it was ridiculous that someone believed a missile hit the Pentagon, so I didn't dig into it. The first picture I viewed was one the conspiracy nuts post showing a small hole. I didn't go to the anti-conspiracy site to see that picture was actually a picture of an interior wall, showing the furthest point the plane penetrated. So I concluded the small hole was the exterior hole and therefore the wings did not penetrate the building. I was wrong. See how easy that is to say. You can do it to. The exterior actually was badly damaged and the wings, excuse me, a wing did penetrate the exterior, causing what was measured as a 76 foot wide hole.

So, I'm a bit like you. I can look on the internet and see a falsely presented picture and believe what a conspiracy nut says about it being the exterior picture, while it is actually an interior picture. But unlike you, I did just a bit more research to find out the truth. The plane hit and did extensive damage to the building, penetrating quite far into various parts of the building. Yes, that wall of information was where the truth was for you to read and realize that what you believe is a lie. You didn't view it because you have no interest in the truth. You prefer the lie. You have yet to post what you believe. You worry that it won't stand up to scrutiny. You're right, it won't. All conspiracy nuts refuse to say exactly what they believe. Maybe they tell their poor wives or neighbors and drive them crazy as well. But they prefer to do what you are doing. You post what I say and you focus on minutia. I told you I didn't take part in the investigation. I posted accurate information from those who did follow the investigation. You didn't read it.

It's your turn. Post what you believe happened. Don't change the subject and make it about me. Post what you believe.
 
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The story...

There was no 757 wreckage at the Pentagon.

Our take...

There are photos around of wreckage that may have come from Flight 77. We’ve found these primarily at http://rense.com/general32/phot.htm and www.pentagonresearch.com (click on each one for a larger view, then click Back to return here).

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We also found a brief video showing a worker lifting up debris, while the narrator says: “the wreckage of Flight 77 was being examined”. There are a few pieces that look like they came from the fuselage, plus some other fragments we’ve not seen before.


http://www.smelternews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=27
 
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lol, I'm blessed with a beautiful family ;), thanks for asking. I'm not going to say what hit the pentagon, because I don't know exactly what it was and neither do you. As I said, there's HUNDREDS of cameras in the area, it's the pentagon, The video that was released leaves NOTHING but speculation. The experts " pilots " say the maneuver is impossible, take it up with them. You do nothing but divert, twist, and distort. You think you can confuse the people here by distorting facts, creating drama, and name calling. More and more facts have come fourth, you just refuse to talk about them like the videos above, that's ok stay in your shelter little world where you trust everything and everyone is your friend. I think your confused and blind, my advice wouldn't be to see a doctor, it would be to see God, that's who you need a convo with.

What about the Saudis that were plastered all over the tv, saying they were the hijackers only to find out they are home and well, suing the fbi ... For being falsely accused.


Please, expose the facts of the Israeli art students to not be true, and the other Israeli that were arrested on that day. You won't, we know that, but spew your hatred and show us what your really all about.
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It figures. I also forgot to add the link that shows the pictures of the wreckage. It's a great anti-conspiracy site with mountains of actual evidence disproving all their conspiracies.

Try this 757 Wreckage
I guess nothing about the Israeli " bomb maker " students ...o well
 
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So, call Bill Cooper, me, and people like us nuts... I've SEEN ENOUGH for myself, maybe it's time you go outside and have some of your own life experiences, then again your 57, shrugs.. I would still seek, your not searching hard enough, do it with all your heart, only then will you get some where in all this, ask God to show you something, I don't know what else to tell you other then, I'm not of this world ... I'm just in it, Now stop being a jerk and show some compassion, concern, and care for your fellow man.

if you leave it to some 9/11myth site .... Your already in quick sand.
 
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So, call Bill Cooper, me, and people like us nuts... I've SEEN ENOUGH for myself, maybe it's time you go outside and have some of your own life experiences, then again your 57, shrugs.. I would still seek, your not searching hard enough, do it with all your heart, only then will you get some where in all this, ask God to show you something, I don't know what else to tell you other then, I'm not of this world ... I'm just in it, Now stop being a jerk and show some compassion, concern, and care for your fellow man.


He's incapable of showing compassion, concern OR care, Brainfreeze. The only thing he IS capable of, is hurling insults, name-calling and putting down those who believe differently than he does. He constantly makes fun of several here, whether they're into conspiracies or not.. His words will get him banned, sooner or later. His posts speak volumes as to how much concern, compassion and care he has for his fellow man.. :/
 
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He's incapable of showing compassion, concern OR care, Brainfreeze. The only thing he IS capable of, is hurling insults, name-calling and putting down those who believe differently than he does. He constantly makes fun of several here, whether they're into conspiracies or not.. His words will get him banned, sooner or later. His posts speak volumes as to how much concern, compassion and care he has for his fellow man.. :/
It angers me a bit to see it, we sit here with our time, our care, our concern, showing what we've found and trying to wake them up to the deceit around them. What do we get in return ? Called lunatics, nuts, and pigs, even if he completely disagrees the disrespectful words and tone wouldn't come from the Holy Spirit ... Fact.
 
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So, call Bill Cooper, me, and people like us nuts... I've SEEN ENOUGH for myself, maybe it's time you go outside and have some of your own life experiences, then again your 57, shrugs.. I would still seek, your not searching hard enough, do it with all your heart, only then will you get some where in all this, ask God to show you something, I don't know what else to tell you other then, I'm not of this world ... I'm just in it, Now stop being a jerk and show some compassion, concern, and care for your fellow man.


He's incapable of showing compassion, concern OR care, Brainfreeze. The only thing he IS capable of, is hurling insults, name-calling and putting down those who believe differently than he does. He constantly makes fun of several here, whether they're into conspiracies or not.. His words will get him banned, sooner or later. His posts speak volumes as to how much concern, compassion and care he has for his fellow man.. :/
It angers me a bit to see it, we sit here with our time, our care, our concern, showing what we've found and trying to wake them up to the deceit around them. What do we get in return ? Called lunatics, nuts, and pigs, even if he completely disagrees the disrespectful words and tone wouldn't come from the Holy Spirit ... Fact.

Which is why I disengaged with him as I did another on here, because of their rude and insulting remarks.

If he wanted to handle things respectfully I would indulge him in the video's, reports, links, and so on that speak of the manuevers of the plane could not have been done and such.

But he burned that bridge already and by his snotty attitude shows no matter what you show him will get him to change his mind.
 
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9/11 BBC TV news broadcast showing a passenger jet approaching Pentagon:
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Animation showing the plane's approach and impact into the Pentagon:

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A comparison of the fuel explosions of the WTC 2 hit (image reversed) and the Pentagon hit:


An example showing what happened to the plane when it hit the newly reinforced section of the Pentagon:​
Photo showing the Pentagon shortly after the impact:​
Note the fires where the engines hit.


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A clip recording the conversation between the TYSON sector ATC and the C-130 pilot who saw Flight 77 shortly before it hit the Pentagon. (The original recording isn't clearly time coded, so please regard these times as approximate only.)
9:36:41 - ATC: GOFER zero 6, traffic is 11 o'clock and five miles northbound fast moving, type and altitude unknown.

9:36:49 - GOFER06: GOFER zero 6 we have the traffic in sight >unintelligible<

9:36:52 - ATC: Ah, you have the traffic, do you know what kind it is, can you see?

9:36:54 - GOFER06: Looks like a 757 sir.

9:36:59 - ATC: A 757. Can you estimate his altitude?

9:36:59 - GOFER06: Ah, looks like he's at low altitude right now sir.

9:37:04 - ATC: GOFER eight [sic] six, thank you.

>crosstalk<

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9:37:17 - GOFER06: That, ah, traffic from GOFER zero 6 is still in a descent now, and, uh, looks like he's strolled [?] out north east [?]

9:37:24 - ATC: All right. Thank you.

>crosstalk<

9:37:30 - ATC: GOFER eight [sic] six, climb and maintain, uh,

9:37:32 - ATC background: You getting the military?

9:37:33 - ATC: Yeah. Stand by. GOFER eight [sic] six,

9:37:35 - ATC: GOFER eight [sic] six, turn right and follow the traffic, please.

9:37:40 - ATC: GOFER eight [sic] six, turn right heading zero eight zero, we're going to vector you for the traffic.

9:37:44 - GOFER06: Okay, zero eight zero, GOFER zero six it's...

9:37:47 - ATC: Dulles, I'm keeping GOFER eight six, uh, zero six with me for a while.

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>ATC interacts with another flight<

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9:38:23 - GOFER06: Washington, this is GOFER zero six.

9:38:25 - ATC: GOFER zero six, go ahead.

9:38:26 - GOFER06: [?] ... aircraft is down, he's in our [a?] twelve o'clock position, looks like it's just a, uh, north, west of the airfield at this time sir.

9:38:36 - ATC: GOFER eight [sic] six, thank you, descend and maintain two thousand

9:38:39 - GOFER06: Okay, we're down to two thousand

9:38:53 - GOFER06: And uh, this is GOFER zero six, it looks like that aircraft crashed into the Pentagon, sir.​
9:38:59 - ATC: GOFER eight [sic] six, GOFER zero six, thank you.
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Dispatcher Kyra Pulliam: Yes three-fifty-two.

Faust: I think we've just had an airplane crash, east of here, it must be in the District area.

Pulliam: OK.

Officer Richard Cox: Four-ten. It's an American Airlines plane, headed east down over the Pike, possibly toward the Pentagon.
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[TD] Steve Anderson:Shortly after watching the second tragedy, I heard jet engines pass our building, which, being so close to the airport is very common. But I thought the airport was closed. I figured it was a plane coming in for landing. A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye. It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke.
Deb Anlauf:
Anlauf was watching TV coverage of the Trade Center burning shortly before 9:30 a.m. when she decided to return to her 14th-floor room from another part of the hotel. Once in her room, she heard a "loud roar" and looked out the window to see what was going on. "Suddenly I saw this plane right outside my window," Anlauf said during a telephone interview from her hotel room this morning. "You felt like you could touch it; it was that close. It was just incredible. "Then it shot straight across from where we are and flew right into the Pentagon. It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon). When it hit, the whole hotel shook."
Arlington police transmission:
Motor 11: There is visible smoke coming from that area...high, visible smoke.
Dispatcher: Motor 11 direct.
Motor 14: Motor 14, it was an American Airlines plane, uh, headed eastbound over the Pike (Columbia Pike highway), possibly toward the Pentagon.
Dispatcher: 10-4. Cruiser 50 direct.
David Battle:
Earlier Tuesday, Battle, an office worker at the Pentagon, was standing outside the building and just about to enter when the aircraft struck. "It was coming down head first," he said. "And when the impact hit, the cars and everything were just shaking."
Gary Bauer:
I had just passed the closest place the Pentagon is to the exit on 395 . . . when all of a sudden I heard the roar of a jet engine. I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn’t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment.
Maurice Bease:
Sergeant Maurice L. Bease had worked around Marine aviation long enough to know what a fly-by was, and it sounded like one as he stood outside his office near the Pentagon on Sept. 11. Turning around expecting to see a fighter jet fly over, he saw only a split-second glimpse of a white commercial airliner streaking low toward the building, and him! He did not even have time to duck before it plowed into the side of the Pentagon around the corner and about 200 yards from where he stood. Immediately, a ball of flame shot up the side of the building, followed by smoke, lots of it.
Paul Begala:
Paul Begala, a Democratic consultant, said he witnessed an explosion near the Pentagon. "It was a huge fireball, a huge, orange fireball," he said in an interview on his mobile phone.
Mickey Bell:
Bell, who had been less than 100 feet from the initial impact of the plane, was nearly struck by one of the plane´s wings as it sped by him. In shock, he got into his truck, which had been parked in the trailer compound, and sped away. He wandered around Arlington in his truck and tried to make wireless phone calls. He ended up back at Singleton´s headquarters in Gaithersburg two hours later, according to President Singleton, not remembering much. The full impact of the closeness of the crash wasn´t realized until coworkers noticed damage to Bell´s work vehicle. He had plastic and rivets from an airplane imbedded in its sheet metal, but Bell had no idea what had happened.
Susan Bergen:
Susan Bergen was sitting in a hotel room near the Pentagon on Tuesday morning, glued to TV news coverage of the World Trade Center attack. Out of the corner of her eye, she saw a plane outside the window of her 11th floor room. She turned just in time to see a big jetliner skim the treetops and slam into the side of the Pentagon, less than a half mile from her hotel room. It looked like the plane sped up just before hitting the building, she said.
Brian Birdwell:
LTC Brian Birdwell. He was just heading back down the hall to his office when the building exploded in front of him. ... Once they stabilized Brian, they transferred him to George Washington Hospital where...the best, cutting edge burn doctor in the U.S. The doctor told him that had he not gone to Georgetown first, he probably would not have survived because of the jet fuel in his lungs.
Ed Blunt:
Engine 101 actually saw the jetliner plow into the northwest side of the Pentagon. The radio crackled, “Engine 101—emergency traffic, a plane has gone down into the Pentagon."
Sean Boger:
Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building." "It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building."
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Pam Bradley:
I work in Washington DC area, and was on my way to work, in my car, sitting on a bridge, and saw the plane hit the Pentagon. I am in a complete state of shock.
Chris Braman:
The lawn was littered with twisted pieces of aluminum. He saw one chunk painted with the letter "A," another with a "C." It didn't occur to Braman what the letters signified until a man in the crowd stooped to pick up one of the smaller metal shards. He examined it for a moment, then announced: "This was a jet."
Mark Bright:
"I saw the plane at the Navy Annex area," he said. "I knew it was going to strike the building because it was very, very low -- at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down." The plane would have been seconds from impact -- the annex is only a few hundred yards from the Pentagon. He said he heard the plane "power-up" just before it struck the Pentagon. "
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[TD] Omar Campo:It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane, Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire."
Joseph Candelario:
As I was looking across the river towards the direction of the Pentagon, I noticed a large aircraft flying low towards the White House. This aircraft then made a sharp turn and flew towards the Pentagon and seconds later crashed into it.
Susan Carroll:
I was standing on the platform high above the [Washington Reagan] airport awaiting a Metro subway train to my office in the heart of the district, on Constitution Avenue, admiring the lovely blue skies when I saw the plane hit and the fireball and explosion at the Pentagon.
James R. Cissell:
''Out of my peripheral vision, I saw this plane coming in and it was low - and getting lower. ''If you couldn't touch it from standing on the highway, you could by standing on your car.'' ''I thought, 'This isn't really happening. That is a big plane.' Then I saw the faces of some of the passengers on board,'' Cissell said. ''I remember thinking, 'The World Trade Center was just the beginning, there's going to be more.' '' He remembers the helipad the plane flew over before smacking into the Pentagon was close enough to him that ''I could have thrown a baseball at it and hit it.''
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Richard Cox:
The hijacked jetliner, traveling at 350 miles an hour, was only about 100 feet from the ground when it cruised over Arlington police officer Richard Cox's head, just a quarter mile from the Pentagon. "It was low enough for me to see the reflection of cars and trees and buildings on its underside as it passed by," he says. "It was low enough for my heart to stop."
Dan Creed:
He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said. "I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," Creed recalls.
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John Damoose, a Travis City, Mich. native who was in a meeting said "everybody got nervous. .‚.‚. We didn't know whether to stay inside or go outside. The thing with terrorist attacks is that you don't know what is the next thing that will happen." Damoose said the worst part was leaving the Pentagon and walking along Fort Meyer Drive, a bike trail, "you could see pieces of the plane."
Wayne Day:
"We had one guy who was standing, looking out the window and saw the plane when it was coming in. He was in front of one of the blast-resistant windows," says Kirlin President Wayne T. Day, who believes the window structure saved the man's life. According to Matt Hahr, Kirlin's senior project manager at the Pentagon, the employee "was thrown about 80 ft down the hall through the air. As he was traveling through the air, he says the ceiling was coming down from the concussion. He got thrown into a closet, the door slammed shut and the fireball went past him," recounts Hahr. "Jet fuel was on him and it irritated his eyes, but he didn't get burned."
Michael Defina:
"The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear. The devastation was horrific. It was obvious that some of the victims we found had no time to react."
Michael DiPaula:
"Suddenly, an airplane roared into view, nearly shearing the roof off the trailer before slamming into the E ring. 'It sounded like a missile,' DiPaula recalls . . . Buried in debris and covered with airplane fuel, he was briefly listed by authorities as missing, but eventually crawled from the flaming debris and the shroud of black smoke unscathed.
Mike Dobbs:
"It was an American airlines airliner. I was looking out the window and saw it come right over the Navy annex at a slow angle. It looked to me to be on a zero-to-zero course. It seemed to be almost coming in in slow motion. I didn't actually feel it hit, but I saw it and then we all started running."
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"It just was amazingly precise," Daryl Donley, another commuter, said of the plane's impact. "It completely disappeared into the Pentagon."
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I saw the plane fly into the Pentagon and turn into a huge fireball two and a half times the size of the Pentagon heightwise. I looked out of my passenger window and the plane was next to me, at level, about probably 100 feet or so away, and then I followed it and saw it fly into the Pentagon.
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As I stepped onto the highway next to the triage area, I knelt down to tie my shoe and all over the highway were small pieces of aircraft skin, none bigger than a half-dollar. Anyone familiar with aircraft has seen the greenish primer paint that covers many interior metal surfaces - that is what these shards were covered with.
Kim Flyler:
"At that moment I heard a plane and then a loud cracking noise.... Right before the plane hit the building, you could see the silhouettes of people in the back two rows. You couldn't see if they were male or female, but you could tell there was a human being in there."
Don Fortunato:
"Traffic was at a standstill, so I parked on the shoulder, not far from the scene and ran to the site. Next to me was a cab from D.C., its windshield smashed out by pieces of lampposts. There were pieces of the plane all over the highway, pieces of wing, I think."
Kat Gaines:
Her commute to the airport took her south on Route 110, in front of the parking lots of the Pentagon. As she approached the parking lots, she saw a low-flying jetliner strike the top of nearby telephone poles. She then heard the plane power up and plunge into the Pentagon.
Fred Gaskins:
"'(The plane) was flying fast and low and the Pentagon was the obvious target,' said Fred Gaskins, who was driving to his job as a national editor at USA Today near the Pentagon when the plane passed about 150 feet overhead. 'It was flying very smoothly and calmly, without any hint that anything was wrong.'"
Mike Gerson:
I didn't see the actual impact, but 395 curves around the Pentagon, and I saw that plane coming in and said to myself, 'That plane is too low; it's going to crash.'
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[TD] Matt Hahr:
According to Matt Hahr, Kirlin's senior project manager at the Pentagon, the employee "was thrown about 80 ft down the hall through the air. As he was traveling through the air, he says the ceiling was coming down from the concussion. He got thrown into a closet, the door slammed shut and the fireball went past him," recounts Hahr. "Jet fuel was on him and it irritated his eyes, but he didn't get burned."
Afework Hagos:
Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."
Cheryl Hammond:
"I thought they'd put out an alert or something," Hammond said. "We saw the big American Airlines plane and started running."
Joe Harrington:
Harrington was working on the installation of new furniture in Wedge One, when he was called out to the parking lot to talk about security with his customer moments before the crash. “About two minutes later one of my guys pointed to an American airlines airplane 20 feet high over Washington Blvd.,” Harrington said. “It seemed like it made impact just before the wedge. It was like a Hollywood movie or something.
Albert Hemphill:
All in all, I probably only had the aircraft in my field of view for approximately 3 seconds. The aircraft was at a sharp downward angle of attack, on a direct course for the Pentagon. It was "clean", in as much as, there were no flaps applied and no apparent landing gear deployed. He was slightly left wing down as he appeared in my line of sight, as if he'd just "jinked" to avoid something. As he crossed Route 110 he appeared to level his wings, making a slight right wing slow adjustment as he impacted low on the Westside of the building to the right of the helo, tower and fire vehicle around corridor 5.
Fred Hey:
Congressional staff attorney Fred Hey was driving by on Route 50 at that moment. "I can't believe it! This plane is going down into the Pentagon!" he shouted into his cellphone. On the other end of the line was his boss, Rep. Bob Ney (R) of Ohio. Representative Ney immediately phoned the news to House Sergeant-At-Arms Bill Livingood, who ordered an immediate evacuation of the Capitol itself.
Nicholas Holland:
Nicholas Holland, an engineer with AMEC Construction Management of Bethesda, Md., had spent the last two years working to reinforce the walls. Two summers ago, a blast wall of reinforced steel and concrete was installed right where the plane hit.
Tom Hovis:
The plane came up I-395 also known as Shirley Hwy. (most likely used as a reference point.) The plane had been seen making a lazy pattern in the no fly zone over the White House and US Cap. Why the plane did not hit incoming traffic coming down the river from the north to Reagan Nat'l. is beyond me . Strangely, no one at the Reagan Tower noticed the aircraft. Andrews AFB radar should have also picked up the aircraft I would think. Nevertheless, the aircarft went southwest near Springfield and then veered left over Arlington and then put the nose down coming over Ft Myer picking off trees and light poles near the helicopter pad next to building. It was as if he leveled out at the last minute and put it square into the building. The wings came off as if it went through an arch way leaving a hole in the side of the building it seems a little larger than the wide body of the aircraft. The entry point was so clean that the roof (shown in news photo) fell in on the wreckage.
Will Jarvis:
From time spent on military aircraft as part of his job at the Pentagon, Will Jarvis ... knows what aviation fuel smells like. That smell was his only clue that a plane had crashed into the Pentagon, where he works as an operations research analyst for the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Jarvis, who was around the corner from the disaster, tried but failed to see the plane when he left the building. "There was just nothing left. It was incinerated. We couldn't see a tail or a wing or anything," he says. "Just a big black hole in the building with smoke pouring out of it."
Andrea Kaiser:
Fire Truck 101 from the Arlington County Fire Department was one of the first on the scene Tuesday morning. The truck was coming back from a training exercise, and one firefighter on board noticed a plane flying too low as they drove past the Pentagon. "Suddenly, we saw the huge explosion of the crash," said firefighter Andrea Kaiser.
Terrence Kean:
Terrance Kean, 35, who lives in a 14-story building nearby, heard the loud jet engines and glanced out his window. "I saw this very, very large passenger jet," said the architect, who had been packing for a move. "It just plowed right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico. And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere. . . . It was very sort of surreal."
Lesley Kelly:
On Sept. 11, I was standing in a break room of an office . . . in downtown D.C., when I looked out the window to see an airplane descend into the side of the Pentagon, where the Navy offices where five friends and colleagues of mine were located.
D. S. Khavkin:
Then, at about 9:40 am Eastern Daylight Time, my husband and I heard an aircraft directly overhead. At first, we thought it was the jets that sometimes fly overhead. However, it appeared to be a small commercial aircraft. The engine was at full throttle. First, the plane knocked down a number of street lamp poles, then headed directly for the Pentagon and crashed on the lawn near the west side the Pentagon. A huge fireball exploded with thick black smoke.
Aydan Kizildrgli:
Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. "There was a big boom," he said. "Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled ‘Did you see that?' Nobody could believe it."
K.M.:
I live in Pentagon City (part of Arlington) and can see the Pentagon when I look out my window. ... It was so shocking, I was listening to the news on what had happened in New York, and just happened to look out the window because I heard a low flying plane and then I saw it hit the Pentagon. It happened so fast... it was in the air one moment and in the building the next...
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Peter Kopf, director of information technology at USA TODAY, was stalled in traffic about 9:30 a.m. when the jet hit the Pentagon, creating a "huge fireball." "People (on the highway) were freaking out," he said. "People were turning around and driving the opposite way getting out of their cars, talking on cell phones, crying."
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Everybody loves a good yarn I guess, but I saw what I saw. It was definitely an airplane.
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