JGIG,
Hi. Welcome back.
We don't like the attitude that new.modern.hyper grace believers have that they suddenly have something that we don't. I've walked in the freedom of grace for many years, and can clearly see their error. I've never been in bondage to religious traditions/systems that most of these folks seem to have been, yet they accuse any who disagree with them of being in bondage to the same. They all work from the same toolset of practiced talking points they've learned from books and the internet, and all of their diatribes are framed in such. They never receive correction, always ignore clear proofs of their error, and just continually regurgitate their practiced talking points. It's very obviously behavior that one sees in brainwashed members of cults.
Hi. Welcome back.
We don't like the attitude that new.modern.hyper grace believers have that they suddenly have something that we don't. I've walked in the freedom of grace for many years, and can clearly see their error. I've never been in bondage to religious traditions/systems that most of these folks seem to have been, yet they accuse any who disagree with them of being in bondage to the same. They all work from the same toolset of practiced talking points they've learned from books and the internet, and all of their diatribes are framed in such. They never receive correction, always ignore clear proofs of their error, and just continually regurgitate their practiced talking points. It's very obviously behavior that one sees in brainwashed members of cults.
Hi HRFTD =),
I hear you, and there is some of that around.
What I hear most Grace teachers saying though, is not that they have something that you don't, but that they've realized what they've had all along, and that is rest and security in the Work of Christ.
Please post for us the 'diatribes' you're referring to. From ACTUAL Grace preachers. Not from those who tell you what Grace preachers are saying/doing, but straight from the horses' mouths.
As for saying the same over and over - you have some of that too, yes? It's not only the mark of cultish behavior, but also of those who passionately defend what they believe.
Like I wrote above, it is always my intent to point you to Christ, Who He is, What He came to do, what that actually accomplished, and who you are in Him. If I'm doing that, what you do with it is your choice; I have been faithful to what I have been called to.
-JGIG