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Self Examination: Do you understand the Gospel?
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Notice that in Matt 7:19-23..Jesus said "I never knew you "...these people were not believers.....everyone when they see Jesus will call Him Lord.....
How do I imply that liberty is sin? It's the hypergrace camp that denies confession. Denies the sin nature. I've never once said sin was okay. I'd thank you to not impose that on me. They think it's okay to do whatever they want because they are saved. Look at the preachers they promote. Grace777 called these men and those like them great leaders. Is this okay with you?
[video=youtube;1SgByE0pX1M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SgByE0pX1M[/video]
I'm pretty sure we are called believers because we believe....
You can be convinced you are saved and, in fact, be self-deceived and never were int he faith. That's why we have scriptures warning us to examine ourselves and test all things. This is a foreign concept for the hyper grace camp.
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Our liberty is from the condemnation of sin. That doesn't mean we are anarchist for Christ. We still have laws and commands and rules and regulations and structure. God is a God of order, not chaos.
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Actually, they very obviously were believers at one time. They had enough faith to become members of the new covenant and become "born again", just like Israel had faith to apply blood to their doorposts and be saved out of Egypt. But they chose unbelief and did not do the will of GOD, just like those of Israel who didn't believe and were destroyed in the wilderness. Therefore, GOD never knew them because they did their own will and didn't remain in GOD.
And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. The one who says “I have come to know him,” and does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in this person. 1 John 2:3-4
And the one who keeps his commandments resides in him, and he in him. And by this we know that he resides in us: by the Spirit whom he has given to us. 1 John 3:24
1 Corinthians 2:14-15 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
[SUP]15[/SUP] But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.
Job 8:21 (NASB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] "He will yet fill your mouth with laughter And your lips with shouting.
Psalm 126:2-3 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Then was our mouth filled with laughter, and our tongue with singing: then said they among the heathen, The LORD hath done great things for them.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] The LORD hath done great things for us; whereof we are glad. ( notice..glad..not sad?)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
[SUP]15[/SUP] But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.
Job 8:21 (NASB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] "He will yet fill your mouth with laughter And your lips with shouting.
Psalm 126:2-3 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Then was our mouth filled with laughter, and our tongue with singing: then said they among the heathen, The LORD hath done great things for them.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] The LORD hath done great things for us; whereof we are glad. ( notice..glad..not sad?)
Posting these scriptures makes no point against me. I would charge you with falling under 1 cor 2:14-15
It's obvious you are not discerning in the least and don't understand the things of God.
You pervert scripture to support your agenda.
We rejoice with our salvation...
Psalm 126:1-2 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] When the LORD turned again the captivity of Zion, we were like them that dream.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Then was our mouth filled with laughter, and our tongue with singing: then said they among the heathen, The LORD hath done great things for them.
Even Jesus rejoiced...
Luke 10:21 (NASB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] At that very time He rejoiced greatly in the Holy Spirit, ...
Psalm 126:1-2 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] When the LORD turned again the captivity of Zion, we were like them that dream.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Then was our mouth filled with laughter, and our tongue with singing: then said they among the heathen, The LORD hath done great things for them.
Even Jesus rejoiced...
Luke 10:21 (NASB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] At that very time He rejoiced greatly in the Holy Spirit, ...
And to think... these are the kinds of people we're dealing with here on CC. LOL!
No only CC. This is most of the church in one form or another today. With the introduction of Jesus Culture and Bethel Church drawing in millions of young people, International House of Prayer, feel good preachers like ol' smilin' Joel and Joseph Prince, we are seeing what I would consider the great apostasy in action. It's wholly satanic.
This is what it's devolving to.
[video=youtube;ZSRlIOto5dg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSRlIOto5dg[/video]