Watching "Un-christian Porn" - protect your heart
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There is a funny situation here. grace8 and grace7x77 to say the good samaritan is good means they are universalists, or evil and they look stupid. It is little wonder I had to assume they said the good samaritan was evil because they did not want to say that, and equally they did not want to say he was good.
Now I am sorry you cannot take my assumption as not a valid conclusion of the argument, but it has just be recreated here.
Now if you want me to say I was being a false witness, that is your opinion, but this was the question I asked, which they refused to answer.
Another simple question was I was called missled to say hyper grace was linked to wof and prosperity.
I then realised Joseph Prince is wof, prosperity and hyper-grace. Again they refused to answer because it means they are lying and contradicting themselves. It is hard to deal with double minded men like this when I am just being straight and honest. If you conclude I am not, well that is fine by me, because I can do more than this.
Now I am sorry you cannot take my assumption as not a valid conclusion of the argument, but it has just be recreated here.
Now if you want me to say I was being a false witness, that is your opinion, but this was the question I asked, which they refused to answer.
Another simple question was I was called missled to say hyper grace was linked to wof and prosperity.
I then realised Joseph Prince is wof, prosperity and hyper-grace. Again they refused to answer because it means they are lying and contradicting themselves. It is hard to deal with double minded men like this when I am just being straight and honest. If you conclude I am not, well that is fine by me, because I can do more than this.
So here is my point. You can't lump everyone together. You have to talk to a man separately, to determine what He believes. You can't take what one man says (or might have said, because we haven't been shown where he did) and just assume all of the men in the room all think the exact same thing. This is lazy, Peter. It shows a desire to not engage with another person and spend time getting to know their mind. You don't make hot dogs for everyone and put catsup on all of them just because you know one man likes catsup. You take the time to ask who likes catsup and who doesn't. Just because they both like onions does not mean they both like catsup. You can't assume they are the same on all things just because they might be the same in one. Why the hurried running around trying to lasso everyone into little groups to condemn?
Now, I will say this...men who put sweet relish instead of dill on their dogs are just wrong, as are men who wear pants on their heads.
Now, I will say this...men who put sweet relish instead of dill on their dogs are just wrong, as are men who wear pants on their heads.
Good grief. The good samaritan is called good because he did a good deed. He is not called good because he is religious or following God. His is a samaritan so he is not following Yaweh and therefore rejected. Jesus chose him as a parable that goodness is innate in the action not the man. Now twisting the story your way is a unique angle but if your are happy with this, it is your funeral.
You are not very good at theology my friend. I am not personalising theology, I am saying this is the position that was taken. Who takes it does not matter to me, but the fact that it is being taken.
Theology matters, and it first has to be established. Obviously that is not of interest to you, but that is your problem not mine.
Once established people then assent to it or not.
Interestingly Grace8 is proposing an idea not agreed with by a lot of hyper-gracers. What I would put forward is the weakness of this argument is universalism. If you want to argue with that, then fine.
I am not going to change my approach, because these points are not neutral or innocent. It is up to you to decide where you stand. You obviously dislike this robustness of challenging people, but that is what happens when you change salvation and righteousness, and preach heresy.
Theology matters, and it first has to be established. Obviously that is not of interest to you, but that is your problem not mine.
Once established people then assent to it or not.
Interestingly Grace8 is proposing an idea not agreed with by a lot of hyper-gracers. What I would put forward is the weakness of this argument is universalism. If you want to argue with that, then fine.
I am not going to change my approach, because these points are not neutral or innocent. It is up to you to decide where you stand. You obviously dislike this robustness of challenging people, but that is what happens when you change salvation and righteousness, and preach heresy.
We should get people to prove what they say....anybody can cry "fowl" and that someone said something..usually with a twist on it....that's why people ask to "show" what you mean..
...I could say that Mickey Mouse was going to be in heaven...and when confronted with..show me that..I could say..you are being "contray"..
..I say..show me where it says the Mouse gets in!
...I could say that Mickey Mouse was going to be in heaven...and when confronted with..show me that..I could say..you are being "contray"..
..I say..show me where it says the Mouse gets in!
I like you get out of jail free card. Sin is all washed away but deeds are separate and the good samaritan is really a jew or a christian? Now people have to decide whether the idea of Jesus choosing an example of a man being good from an enemy of the Jews was because he really wanted to say a righteous God fearing man was the only one who truly loved the beaten up man.
It does not add up. But then neither does you theology. Sin is forgiven for the whole world but people are sent to hell for doing good but in the wrong way. Now that is really just!!!!!
A mass murderer is forgiven for their murders but because they did good things for the wrong motives that really deserves torture for all eternity, really really roast them guys, they are such horrible evil do gooders. Nooooooooooooo
That is just nutttttttttttttttttttts
Hey StunnedByGrace likes this so it must be okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
It does not add up. But then neither does you theology. Sin is forgiven for the whole world but people are sent to hell for doing good but in the wrong way. Now that is really just!!!!!
A mass murderer is forgiven for their murders but because they did good things for the wrong motives that really deserves torture for all eternity, really really roast them guys, they are such horrible evil do gooders. Nooooooooooooo
That is just nutttttttttttttttttttts
Hey StunnedByGrace likes this so it must be okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk