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Lost_sheep

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I would like to talk to you. I am not theologically trained in any way and I have no denomination or doctrine to defend. I will be honored to talk with you!


That is a very kind offer. Thank you so much.
 
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so the mods can edit things out of posts?..I thought something strange was happening when I would go back and look at a post..the original words weren't there...I saw where someone called some one else .."satanic"...then the next day it was gone..I suppose the mods took it out...which is good..who wants to see that stuff .

..I believe this happened to one of Utah's posts....not what he had posted but what someone else had posted and he copied it to comment on it...if I remember correctly...
 

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I just arrived on a banana boat on this. But let me say this. An individual walking in the Spirit will NOT bring unity. It will bring division if others in question are not 'walking in the Spirit' also.
Jesus said He did not come to bring unity but division. Another place He said let there be no divisions among you. Boils down to Some go on to maturity. Some don't. There's not a lot of unity and fellowship between the ones pressing in and those that don't and won't.

Those that are playing 'church' and those that are the 'church'. Those that go with the flow and those that swim against the flow.
Those that desire to serve and those that want to be served. Those that carry a bible and those that study the bible.
Those that have itching ears and those that have ears to hear. Those that go with heresy, and those that expose heresy.
Ill stop.
Thats why Jesus said 'where two or three gathered in My Name, I'll be in their midst.' In His authority and truth and power. Good luck getting as many as two or three. That many gathered together His way would be novel. That's a crowd indeed.

I talked to to an older brother recently. Shared with him the true take on Hebrews 13:17, how it has been wrested to the hurt of the folks. He's been a Christian for 50 years. He had no clue. Carries a bible but studies it not. Pulpit feed only. Is there any unity between him and me? Nope, nada, uh uh, zero. Light years apart. I dont like it but it is what it is! A great gulf fixed. No I am not perfect. Just surrendered completely.
Hello Yet! I have not met you yet. :)
I like bananas!


I am curious what it means to put the phrase walk in the Spirit into italics marks. I see people put phrases in quotes marks and I think I understand what they are trying to convey by that, sort of like...a rolling the eyes sort of thing. But I don't know what it means in italics marks. Just curious. :)


I understand that when we walk in the Spirit it will bring unity among we who do while bringing mocking and needing and viciousness upon us from those who do not.


But I have great hope for all men because I have seen the power of Gods Spirit! ( sometimes I get weary though too, Yet.)
 

Stunnedbygrace

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To loosely quote Bugs Bunny: Her don't know me vewwy well, do she?!

GBU, Sbg, but I've had many a moment of shame here,
railing back at those who've railed at me,
instead of recognizing the source and responding
the way Jesus would. There are times where I felt
I was justified, it got to where I needed to document
and record some things, if for no other reason,
just to prove to myself I wasn't crazy.
(Yeah, good luck with THAT).

And if you knew of some the things said, gossip,
things said in pm or by ppl jumping threads,
bringing in others to gang up or bully,
combined with rejection and ignoring
I've had to go through here, it would make your head spin.

Not to mention the Flat Out Lies, not misunderstandings,
which there's been plenty of them, too, but complete lies
told about me, well, there's so much I could take
before I dish it back, I guess. Even though I expressed
over and over that anyone should please feel free to pm me
in order to have a dialogue to reason together,
pray with each other, do things as Jesus would have us.
That's almost Never happened, which speaks volumes to me,
the ppl just ignore you or continue with their tactics.

And when you feel it's coming at you from diff angles,
the lashing back, when it happens, can seem extreme
and uncalled for by others looking in, and then they
tend to get involved just to make peace, but by then,
things have heated up, and being told to calm down
by a neutral party just feels like more ganging up.

Now, we all make mistakes, and there's some truth to the saying,
'Hurt people hurt people'. And there are a lot of hurt,
hurting, and hurtful ppl here. That's one reason we need,
and thank God HAVE, a Saviour. Thank you Jesus!

But that's no excuse for some of my behavior.

Though I don't just go about to attack or be spiteful,
(thank you for saying that about me,
bc I've been accused of that, and it feels good to hear
someone say that I'm not that way,
sincerely, Thank You, Savedbygrace,
you don't know how much it means to hear you say that)
no, I don't make plans to attack, or have some hidden
agenda, but I've engaged at times with some rather
unkind tit-for-tat (can you say that here? Tat. Yeah, I guess so)
you know, just back and forth that I'm sure made our Lord
cringe and did more harm than good for the body of Christ,
let alone a non-believer who may be looking in.

I also need to remember that even after things may settle,
those things may be picked up and read by others in the future,
and perhaps be turned off from Jesus as a result,
and that's the biggest shame on me.

But I can only try to grow in grace,
much of this is pretty new to me,
b4 I came here 7 months ago,
I was really really lost and hurting,
and had no friends, fellowship,
or any relationship with God to speak of.

And there's been a lot of disappointment,
disillusionment, and pain since joining.
My fault for being naive and expecting more
out of ppl than is realistic, the fact that we're ALL
sinners saved by grace and at various stages of growth
escapes me sometimes.

I'm in an ongoing situation right now that has
yet to be resolved as christians,
and my heart is so heavy from it, it's tearing me apart,
and time passing is making it worse.
I've had to move on, but not from the person,
I've never had a desire to do that,
perhaps move on is a poor choice of words...
just had to keep moving, but still hoping love wins out,

The point is, we all come up short at times,
and I often am guilty of that in the
personal interactions department,
God's got ALOT of work to do in and through me,
I just don't have the ppl skills or the experience
that most ppl have, and it shows up here alot.

I apologize for this long post, I just wanted to thank
Stunnedbygrace for the kind words but also let her know
I've got a long way to go to live up to them on a consistent basis.
I've made many mistakes, I'll make more,
but hopefully less and less as time goes on,
and I thank the Lord for His long-suffering towards me.
Jesus is a great God and Saviour,
and I pray Everyone here is saved and keeps in the love of God,
and lets that love grow even in the midst of contending for the faith.
As one who has many 'down' times,
I DO like to kid around, sometimes it's
a way to thwart pain, most times it's just intended
to bring a smile to someone that maybe
hasn't had one in a while, ... laughter
doeth good like a medicine, right?
But that sometimes gets taken the wrong way.
I apologize that it's misplaced, sometimes,
and just for maybe not knowing
how to communicate more clearly,
for that I'm sorry and hope to improve.

Oh, And I wear pants on my head for the
same reason all us gals do...Fashion silly!

(And it's VERY freeing, and btw,
you breathe through the buttonhole ;))
Well, I haven't seen those moments of shame you spoke of because I haven't been on here long, but maybe that's because our Lord has grown you in grace and virtue since then.
 

Stunnedbygrace

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It's true. That is why I came is to find some happy fellowship. Tex was trying to cool things down and get that wonderful praise God forum going. Guess this was the wrong forum. I never knew it could not be in the bible discussion forum. Here is what my bro was asking " Y'all come in here and just say how much you love God and see how y'all been doing, maybe even unload a little.. There's a Marshall in here... I've got a loaded tater gun..and I AIN'T afraid to use it...... " And he added his own unique sense of humour. Come on guys what's the problem?
Not walking in the Spirit is the problem. Not abiding in Him is the problem. We need to abide in Him instead of in the weapons of men.
 

Stunnedbygrace

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If your intent is only to attack others, then how about shutting up? I was explaining to the OP how the Calvary Chapel looks at doing their sermons. Some people prefer that style.
YOU influence HIM, Willie. Don't let bitterness influence you. Our Lord will help you in this!
 

Stunnedbygrace

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Well, you know what you are, but I don't think I'd go around calling myself that. LOL (it pays to proofread.)
Yes, and I wouldn't aim that at the deep fryer...
Oh my, what is it that happens to us with potty humor??
I sometimes imagine saying, well, I certainly wouldn't have created passing gas if I'd known it would have THIS kind of effect on them...
 
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It's Biblical what he says.

By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will[e]*believe in Me through their word;*21*that they all may be one, as You, Father,*are*in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.


That's why the devil loves it when christians fight over doctrine.
It's similar to me saying, "Some stupid lady couldn't see the divot in my sidewalk despite the fact the streetlight is right there, so she should have seen it. So, it's her fault she got hurt."

The reality is, although it is obvious there is a divot in my sidewalk, it's my fault she got hurt. My responsibility to fix the sidewalk.

So, yes, everything he said is true. It's not right though. It's laying blame elsewhere. Big difference though -- too many Christians feel guilty because the blame can be laid on us. Don't trust God, don't get saved in your lifetime, and you can't play the "it's all their fault" card on Judgment Day. (It's not the devil's fault either.)
 
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Txroads!!!! where are you? I can't find you! I came out, where did you go? Help their throwing rocks at each other. Forget that---- Scotty beam me up real quick!! View attachment 144040
Weird piece of Star Trek trivia. The transporter beam was really the bubbles in a glass of beer. (Your picture makes that seem so duh-now. lol)
 
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The last message board I was on was run by reformed people in ministry who banned me because I wouldn't say everything they wanted me to say.

I've seen it before when one reformed radio group was calling other Christian churches a cult because they were not part of the reformed denomination.
And I've been told I'm part of a cult because I'm reformed. So, really? We're supposed to divide the body of Christ simply because someone-done-me-wrong-once? Get over it. I've gotten to the point where all I remember of that riveting-insult was how much it still makes me laugh.
 
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coby

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It's similar to me saying, "Some stupid lady couldn't see the divot in my sidewalk despite the fact the streetlight is right there, so she should have seen it. So, it's her fault she got hurt."

The reality is, although it is obvious there is a divot in my sidewalk, it's my fault she got hurt. My responsibility to fix the sidewalk.

So, yes, everything he said is true. It's not right though. It's laying blame elsewhere. Big difference though -- too many Christians feel guilty because the blame can be laid on us. Don't trust God, don't get saved in your lifetime, and you can't play the "it's all their fault" card on Judgment Day. (It's not the devil's fault either.)
I agree that it's not good to use it as an excuse, but it is something to think about as christians. Unity is very important. One guy had a testimony that he got saved because he moved to a christian neighbourhood and he got convinced by seeing the love of those people.
 
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I ain't whisperin now and I ain't being quiet.... This thread I started and it was not meant to turn ANYONE AWAY from God.... This thread was started because people kept arguing and although I ain't been here that long I was trying to see if folks could get along for five minutes... But folks come along and want to turn things into their own interpretation....... Which was far removed from the point this ole boy was trying to make!!!
Now THAT sounded like a right-proper Texan. :) (I'm from the Philly/South Jersey area, but got a little Virginian accent in me from my time living in that state.)
 
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I may be able to donate some ammo...have some ver y iffy 'maters here on the counter. Was going to toss them this morning. Do 'tater guns work with tomatoes?
No. A tater is firmer than a mater. The mater would just make a gooey mess in the barrel.
 
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Grace777 is one in here that people have labeled "hyper grace." But I have seen none of these things. I have seen very consistent fruit of the Spirit in Him. I have never seen him speak in a manner that spits in his Lord's face. You can think he has some wrong ideas about God if you want, (and we all do have some wrong ideas about God, which is what having our minds renewed is about) but you cannot fail to see the fruit of patience, kindness, gentleness, refusing to revile when reviled, etc.


You will know them by their fruits. Period.
Ack! I have avoided all hyper threads for a reason.
 
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I always did that when my boys had a fight. The small one would go nag the oldest and he'd go furious and then I said: Go give your little brother a kiss. Noooo!!!! He started!!!! He's annoying!
Eh I said go give him a kiss. He wants your attention. Then he'd go chase him. I don't want kisses! You're getting them anyway.
Guess those things don't work with adults on forums LOL.
Sounds like your boys aren't boys anymore. Try it now. At worst, it would be fun to watch. lol
 
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Unfortunately fruits are words and deeds. Grace777 is odd. He spreads the hyper-grace propoganda and sits back as if this is a good thing. He refuses to actually answer questions or resolve theology. He is convinced that lawlessness is ok and that their is no morality, yet he follows the morality of scripture. I would say he does not believe in logic or the word of God. So his fruits are the teachers he pushes and their teaching and simply avoids personal contact.

Now if you want to call that the fruit of the spirit, that is your affair, it is just propoganda and not engaging.
Yeah, well what you just did is NOT a fruit of the Spirit.
Romans 1:28-30

28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.