Homosexual Brother, need HELP!

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coby

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I know one guy who was raised as a christian but lived the homosexual lifestyle and he eventually got born again and converted, but he has absolutely no old friends from church or anything left because they all judged him and treated him like dirt.
Be kind to your brother, love him, pray for him. He just needs Gods unconditional love and someone to show him that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dLo9RERy_Xg
 
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Starsdance

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People can't help a lot, just pray, pray,pray, brother. God will save him. Bring your brother to church.
 
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TheHeroJourney

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It won't, trust me. In the mind of a person addicted to homosexuality, it's who they are, not what they do. So instead of thinking that they are doing wrong and should change their behavior, they will think their family has rejected them for who they are. That's why this won't work; it will just make them more hardened because they will cling harder to what they think is themselves. I know; just like Yeraza_Bats, I've been there too.
I have little to offer to the topic at hand, but I wish to emphasize the importance of this. When you try to force someone away from something, they cling tighter to it. Like taking a toy away from a child.

The actions made by those who act under the banner of Christianity often determines whether one will remain in the faith, or leave it. My grandfather was a very religious man. A bit touched in the head, I admit, but he drove my mother away from the faith. She now hates it. I may not be a Christian myself, but I can see quite clearly how much damage it has done to her to turn away from Christ. She's lost, and it was all because of the actions of a single man.

Don't be the person who causes others to turn their gaze from Christ, when you wish to bring people to him instead.

Never forget that it takes just one person to ruin or prove the worth of a thing.

1.) Homosexuality does occur in nature. Research it... at the very least, google it.

It's really irrelevant if it does or doesn't occur in nature anyways. The fact it does occur in nature doesn't make it any less immoral. Rape and incest occur in nature, but we, as Christians, know it's immoral. If God said drinking soda is a sin, then it's a sin... not because soda is "unnatural".
I believe a more appropriate word would be, "dysfunctional."
 
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KimPetras

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Being trans, I've met a lot of gay men and women who have prayed that God release them from their "sin." Some of them admitted to pretending to be "cured" or "healed" for a prolonged period of time as they lived the Christian lifestyle they desired to be apart of. Not one of them ever was "straight" long term, or even at all for that matter. They are still Christians but fully admit they are still sexually attracted to people of the same sex.

Maybe God desires that His children battle with a vice. Maybe it's not even a vice at all. Maybe we don't fully understand God's ways as well as we think we do. It is said His ways aren't our ways nor our thoughts His thoughts. I believe if we love God with all our heart, accept Christ as our Savior, and follow what we truly believe in our hearts is correct, there will be no condemnation that the blood of Christ won't cover.
 
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I have little to offer to the topic at hand, but I wish to emphasize the importance of this. When you try to force someone away from something, they cling tighter to it. Like taking a toy away from a child.
Yep. That's my point. :)
 
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Like Lady Gaga says, you were born this way baby! Honestly, the best thing you can do is not judge him for something he has no control over. I don't believe in all that 'Pray the Gay Away' stuff. It's genetic and will do more harm messing with him. Just tell him you love him and want him to wrap it up so he doesn't get AIDS or anything. I would rather have a gay brother than a brother who is on drugs, commiting adultery, violent, or overall just a nasty, mean person. And guess what, I've met plenty of straight people who had all those qualities. :rolleyes:
 
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Hi everyone,

I am at a loss because my brother is a homosexual and it is causing me to loose sleep at night. I don't know what to do. I am saved and I'm so lucky to have found the lord but my brother is not. He does not see what he is doing as sin and it's tearing my family apart. I want to be a good sister to him, but i don't want to associate with him if he does not see what he is doing a a sin. I am sick about this. I don't know what a good Christian would do. Any help would be appreciated from one Christian to another.

God BLESS!!!!!!!
We aren't commanded to hate someone just because they commit a sin. Actually, we are called upon to do just the opposite. Don't condone the sin, but you can still be friends. Set a good example for your brother.
 
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SpiritualCleansing

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If only our nation would prosecute and execute these homosexuals! Instead we are giving pity parties and calling homosexuals "brave and courageous" for coming out of the closet. Stay in the closet lest ye be smitten by the wrath of God!
 
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If only our nation would prosecute and execute these homosexuals! Instead we are giving pity parties and calling homosexuals "brave and courageous" for coming out of the closet. Stay in the closet lest ye be smitten by the wrath of God!
I take it you've never watched the TV show Ellen or listened to the music of Queen or Elton John. Such a shame. These 'homos' have entertained millions of people and donated millions of $$$ to charites. What have you done with your life lately besides denegrate others?
 
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If only our nation would prosecute and execute these homosexuals! Instead we are giving pity parties and calling homosexuals "brave and courageous" for coming out of the closet. Stay in the closet lest ye be smitten by the wrath of God!
God did not send His Son into the world to condemn it, but to save the world through Him (John 3:17). They need to know the saving power of Jesus Christ. There's always deliverance. These are potential brothers and sisters in Christ we're talking about; some of us here were once them. Thankfully, we weren't executed before we could experience and come to know Jesus, be who God called us to be, and be a light to this world.
 

penknight

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A good christian would tell him that homosexuality IS a sin, and it IS un-natural for two men to be having sex. Tell him God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.. :/ Be honest, tell him he's in danger of going to hell if he doesn't repent and stop living this lifestyle.. Love him, but if he continues this lifestyle, cut him off. Maybe being disowned by his family will be what gets him to realize what he's doing is wrong.
It may be hard but this might be (or may not be) the best course of action, depending on how he intends to deal with this. Trying to understand him is one thing, but he should try to understand how you and your family feels too.
 

Marcelo

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Jesus12, I’m worse off then you: I know one of my brothers to be an adulterer, and I don’t trust the other two with my life. I see adultery as a worse sin than homosexuality because it is cheating on one’s spouse. I have a female cousin who lived with another woman for 30 years. My wife and I prayed for 28 years and now our cousin is a devout Christian.
 
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FaithCharity

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I know I'm a week late, but I've recently read a wonderful book considering how to interact with homosexuals (and other people in sin). It's called Messy Grace by Caleb Kaltenbach. Caleb is a pastor but he wasn't always a Christian. In fact, after his parents divorced, they both came out as homosexuals and had active lives in the LGBT community. Kaltenbach started pursuing Christianity in order to defame it; his mother and her long-time partner (whom he was partially raised by) had been hurt tremendously by "Christians" and he wanted to hurt them back. Kaltenbach ended up believing and being saved by Christ but he, like many others, had difficulty loving while knowing the ones he loved were in sin.

This book talks about what he's come to discover in concern with Christian-Sinner/Homosexual relationships. I'll try to messily sum it up with one sentence: Homosexuality, like all sin, is natural and we are called to love all of humanity but, while doing this, we must not compromise any portion of our faith or belief.

I strongly recommend this book in reference to this subject.
 

blue_ladybug

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Jesus12, I’m worse off then you: I know one of my brothers to be an adulterer, and I don’t trust the other two with my life. I see adultery as a worse sin than homosexuality because it is cheating on one’s spouse. I have a female cousin who lived with another woman for 30 years. My wife and I prayed for 28 years and now our cousin is a devout Christian.

​Then you're viewing sin in the wrong way. No one sin is greater than another. They are all equal in the eyes of God.. Adultery is no greater than homosexuality, just as murder is no greater than robbery..
 
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I agree.....sin is sin...whatsoever is not of faith is sin...in God's yes...the "fearful and unbelieving will the first ones thrown in the Lake of Fire..

Revelation 21:8 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


​Then you're viewing sin in the wrong way. No one sin is greater than another. They are all equal in the eyes of God.. Adultery is no greater than homosexuality, just as murder is no greater than robbery..
 

DiscipleDave

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Hi everyone,

I am at a loss because my brother is a homosexual and it is causing me to loose sleep at night. I don't know what to do. I am saved and I'm so lucky to have found the lord but my brother is not. He does not see what he is doing as sin and it's tearing my family apart. I want to be a good sister to him, but i don't want to associate with him if he does not see what he is doing a a sin. I am sick about this. I don't know what a good Christian would do. Any help would be appreciated from one Christian to another.

God BLESS!!!!!!!
Jesus Christ commanded all Christians to LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

I am at a loss because my brother is a Fornicator and it is causing me to loose sleep at night. I don't know what to do. I am saved and I'm so lucky to have found the lord but my brother is not. He does not see what he is doing as sin and it's tearing my family apart. I want to be a good sister to him, but i don't want to associate with him if he does not see what he is doing a a sin. I am sick about this. I don't know what a good Christian would do. Any help would be appreciated from one Christian to another.

I am at a loss because my brother is an Adulterer and it is causing me to loose sleep at night. I don't know what to do. I am saved and I'm so lucky to have found the lord but my brother is not. He does not see what he is doing as sin and it's tearing my family apart. I want to be a good sister to him, but i don't want to associate with him if he does not see what he is doing a a sin. I am sick about this. I don't know what a good Christian would do. Any help would be appreciated from one Christian to another.

I am at a loss because my brother is a Liar and it is causing me to loose sleep at night. I don't know what to do. I am saved and I'm so lucky to have found the lord but my brother is not. He does not see what he is doing as sin and it's tearing my family apart. I want to be a good sister to him, but i don't want to associate with him if he does not see what he is doing a a sin. I am sick about this. I don't know what a good Christian would do. Any help would be appreciated from one Christian to another.

I am at a loss because my brother is a _________Put a type of sin here_____________ and it is causing me to loose sleep at night. I don't know what to do. I am saved and I'm so lucky to have found the lord but my brother is not. He does not see what he is doing as sin and it's tearing my family apart. I want to be a good sister to him, but i don't want to associate with him if he does not see what he is doing a a sin. I am sick about this. I don't know what a good Christian would do. Any help would be appreciated from one Christian to another.

What concerns me, you indicated that your brother is not Saved. If he is not Saved, then what does it matter if he is a Homosexual or any other thing? So the issue shouldn't be about him being a homosexual, it should be about him not being Saved, cross the homosexual bridge later, the most important thing is him accepting Jesus as Savior and Lord, without that he has no chance at all Homosexual or not.

As a Christian you should not associate yourself with anyone who continues to live in sins and refuses to cease from them. This does not mean you can't LOVE them. You don't have to be mean to them, ignore them, or treat them like they have the plague. Be kind and courteous to them. What it means not to associate yourself with unbelievers, is your not suppose to hang around with them, go to the movies, or the Mall with them, go to parties with them, Go over and have dinner with them. You are suppose to separate yourself from them, not join them in their activities. However any opportunity you have to share the Good News with him/her, this do every time you are around that person, and it just may be that person will separate his/her own self from you.

Also a True Christian if they are truly concerned about anothers Salvation, should address any sins the other is doing, but not into the Ground. For example many years ago, my Mom was dating a man and sleeping with him. It was my Christian duty, because i loved her, and wanted her to go to Heaven with me, to tell her that if she continued to Fornicate that she would not enter into Heaven. That was the last time i ever mentioned it to her again. i told her the Truth, she knew were i stood on the matter, and that was that, i did not beat it into her, i did not bring it up every time she dropped by.(Also during that time of her fornicating, i did not visit her or associate myself with her during that time) But if she dropped by to see me, i was not going to kick her out, i was very nice and cordial to her. She knew where i stood on the matter and did not bring it up. my point is do not kick them when they are around, no Bible thumping them either. just LOVE THEM

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Dude653

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A good christian would tell him that homosexuality IS a sin, and it IS un-natural for two men to be having sex. Tell him God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.. :/ Be honest, tell him he's in danger of going to hell if he doesn't repent and stop living this lifestyle.. Love him, but if he continues this lifestyle, cut him off. Maybe being disowned by his family will be what gets him to realize what he's doing is wrong.
Cutting off is not the solution. Show him love and pray for him. Maybe he'll change, maybe he won't. That's between him and God.
 
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mrdesire

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Hi everyone,

I am at a loss because my brother is a homosexual and it is causing me to loose sleep at night. I don't know what to do. I am saved and I'm so lucky to have found the lord but my brother is not. He does not see what he is doing as sin and it's tearing my family apart. I want to be a good sister to him, but i don't want to associate with him if he does not see what he is doing a a sin. I am sick about this. I don't know what a good Christian would do. Any help would be appreciated from one Christian to another.

God BLESS!!!!!!!
There are three main justifications homosexuals use to endorse their movement.

1. Love
2. Animal behavior
3. Consent

Looking at this arrangement why not endorse incestuous relationships, well there's more evidence in the animal kingdom to support that type of social behavior. However love and consent are personal biases and are not a viable way of proving something's right.
 
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Being trans, I've met a lot of gay men and women who have prayed that God release them from their "sin." Some of them admitted to pretending to be "cured" or "healed" for a prolonged period of time as they lived the Christian lifestyle they desired to be apart of. Not one of them ever was "straight" long term, or even at all for that matter. They are still Christians but fully admit they are still sexually attracted to people of the same sex.

Maybe God desires that His children battle with a vice. Maybe it's not even a vice at all. Maybe we don't fully understand God's ways as well as we think we do. It is said His ways aren't our ways nor our thoughts His thoughts. I believe if we love God with all our heart, accept Christ as our Savior, and follow what we truly believe in our hearts is correct, there will be no condemnation that the blood of Christ won't cover.
You poor lost soul!!! This is not so, you only want it to be so. GOD states in Malachi 3:6 I am GOD and I change not. (6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. )
He states that it is an abomination to him and that is exactly what it is!!! Leviticus 18:22 -- (22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. )
You can believe what you want but he states if you love me then keep my commandment and that he loves those who love him, and those who loves him keeps his commandments. If you are not keeping his commandments then you do not love him, but only with your mouth as GOD stated.
John 14:15 states:
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:21:
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Matthew 15:3-9
3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.



Jayoish
 
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There are three main justifications homosexuals use to endorse their movement.

1. Love
2. Animal behavior
3. Consent

Looking at this arrangement why not endorse incestuous relationships, well there's more evidence in the animal kingdom to support that type of social behavior. However love and consent are personal biases and are not a viable way of proving something's right.
Not really a viable argument. You do realize Adam & Eve had children, and those children had sex with each other which is technically incest. Being gay is not a choice, many knew they were gay since they were very young (Boy George said in an interview he knew since he was 9). Maybe they can choose not to act on their desires, but that's like asking a straight person to not act on their desires.