Healing: A Question to Ponder
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.........healing is definitely in the true gospel message.....as can be seen when Paul preached the gospel in Lystra. in Acts 14.
Acts 14:7-10 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] and there they continued to preach the gospel.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] At Lystra a man was sitting who had no strength in his feet, lame from his mother's womb, who had never walked.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] This man was listening to Paul as he spoke, who, when he had fixed his gaze on him and had seen that he had faith to be made well,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] said with a loud voice, "Stand upright on your feet." And he leaped up and began to walk.
Paul was preaching the GOSPEL.... the man lame was listening to Paul and then he had faith to be made whole...where did this man get faith to be made whole in his body?
Romans 10:17 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
The man that was lame from birth heard in the preaching of the gospel of the grace of Christ that he could be made whole. He believed...Paul saw it in him and encouraged him to act on his faith.
Healing is a part of the gospel of the grace of Christ as the being born-again is.
Acts 14:7-10 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] and there they continued to preach the gospel.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] At Lystra a man was sitting who had no strength in his feet, lame from his mother's womb, who had never walked.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] This man was listening to Paul as he spoke, who, when he had fixed his gaze on him and had seen that he had faith to be made well,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] said with a loud voice, "Stand upright on your feet." And he leaped up and began to walk.
Paul was preaching the GOSPEL.... the man lame was listening to Paul and then he had faith to be made whole...where did this man get faith to be made whole in his body?
Romans 10:17 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
The man that was lame from birth heard in the preaching of the gospel of the grace of Christ that he could be made whole. He believed...Paul saw it in him and encouraged him to act on his faith.
Healing is a part of the gospel of the grace of Christ as the being born-again is.
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Matthew 4:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] But He answered and said, "It is written, 'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.'"
Notice this scripture does not say.
" Man shall live by every religious philosophy that agrees with my humanistic thing".." nor live from our experiences alone"
[SUP]4 [/SUP] But He answered and said, "It is written, 'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.'"
Notice this scripture does not say.
" Man shall live by every religious philosophy that agrees with my humanistic thing".." nor live from our experiences alone"
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For everyone who claims healing is for everyone, how many people have prayed for people and they have been healed?
I know hundreds of christians, and only a few can testify of anything. And a lot of cases are deseases that go up and down by themselves or already are healed, like broken legs or aches and pains.
Now if you claim so much personally, go out and do it before you claim this is the way it should be.
I have seen many enthusiastic young christians claiming the earth and delivering zero. How many of these examples do you need before you just accept miraculous is the exception, and coming to terms with where we are is the expected state.
Even Peter and healing the beggar is so exceptional it is recorded in Acts.
I know hundreds of christians, and only a few can testify of anything. And a lot of cases are deseases that go up and down by themselves or already are healed, like broken legs or aches and pains.
Now if you claim so much personally, go out and do it before you claim this is the way it should be.
I have seen many enthusiastic young christians claiming the earth and delivering zero. How many of these examples do you need before you just accept miraculous is the exception, and coming to terms with where we are is the expected state.
Even Peter and healing the beggar is so exceptional it is recorded in Acts.
Oh I believe that we read of great miraculous healings in the NT, and I believe God still heals and I'm not charismatic, and I certainly don't believe the false gospel of WOF and Health/wealth. (anyone reading, I hope you understand that there is a difference between charismatic in the ordinary sense and WOF-Health/wealth)
All the scripture you post I say Amen too grace777
When we all meet the Lord and all is renewed, we will all have physical healing. you have an over realised theology.
Rev 21:4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and ideath shall be no more,jneither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.”
Already - not yet!
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Look no further than...
Mark 11:24 King James Version (KJV)
24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
Expectation, there you go.
Mark 11:24 King James Version (KJV)
24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
Expectation, there you go.
20 As they passed by in the morning, they saw the fig tree withered away to its roots.21 And Peter remembered and said to him, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree that you cursed has withered.”22 And Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God. 23 Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him.24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.25 And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.”
... .but I totally understand the frustration when one is sick .....maybe some things in the videos posted might help to shed some light on it as well...
Perhaps the videos have the answer...sometimes people that Jesus dealt with had to do things...like go to a pool and wash your eyes out...some had things healed as they went....
The reason why someone doesn't get healed has nothing to do with the will of God as clearly seen in the life of Jesus - He revealed the true nature and will of God.
The reason why some don't get the healing is a matter I would talk over with the Lord and myself if I was sick.
What offends me is when Christians put down other Christians because they don't receive a healing the way some other ones have. We should weep with those that weep and rejoice with those that rejoice. We are to walk in love no matter what the situation. Love never fails.
Perhaps the videos have the answer...sometimes people that Jesus dealt with had to do things...like go to a pool and wash your eyes out...some had things healed as they went....
The reason why someone doesn't get healed has nothing to do with the will of God as clearly seen in the life of Jesus - He revealed the true nature and will of God.
The reason why some don't get the healing is a matter I would talk over with the Lord and myself if I was sick.
What offends me is when Christians put down other Christians because they don't receive a healing the way some other ones have. We should weep with those that weep and rejoice with those that rejoice. We are to walk in love no matter what the situation. Love never fails.
Referring to the scripture in Ben's post, if belief of healing is enough, wouldn't we all be healed anytime that we're sick? Apparently belief and faith aren't good enough, because not everyone who believes and has faith, gets healed. :/ For some such as Lynn and myself, it takes decades. For some it doesn't happen at all. And I know for a fact that Lynn and I each have numerous amounts of faith and belief.
I understand everyone's situation is different and only our Lord has the answers for us in whatever situation we are in. I'm pointing out what Jesus did when He could do not many healings...He went around teaching after He encountered a place that didn't seem to have faith that was needed for Him to work on their behalf..
Faith comes from hearing and hearing from the word of Christ....sometimes I have found in my life I have to build up my faith in whatever area I'm being attacked on.
Romans 10:17 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
Psalm 107:20 (NASB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] He sent His word and healed them, And delivered them from their destructions.
Jesus' antidote was to "teach" the people so that they could acquire the faith needed for their circumstances.
Mark 6:4-6 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.
Faith comes from hearing and hearing from the word of Christ....sometimes I have found in my life I have to build up my faith in whatever area I'm being attacked on.
Romans 10:17 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
Psalm 107:20 (NASB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] He sent His word and healed them, And delivered them from their destructions.
Jesus' antidote was to "teach" the people so that they could acquire the faith needed for their circumstances.
Mark 6:4-6 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.
I understand everyone's situation is different and only our Lord has the answers for us in whatever situation we are in. I'm pointing out what Jesus did when He could do not many healings...He went around teaching after He encountered a place that didn't seem to have faith that was needed for Him to work on their behalf..
Faith comes from hearing and hearing from the word of Christ....sometimes I have found in my life I have to build up my faith in whatever area I'm being attacked on.
Romans 10:17 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
Psalm 107:20 (NASB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] He sent His word and healed them, And delivered them from their destructions.
Jesus' antidote was to "teach" the people so that they could acquire the faith needed for their circumstances.
Mark 6:4-6 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.
Now see, this is what offends me and ticks me off, is when people dare to assume that I don't have ENOUGH faith to be healed.. Grace777, if I didn't have faith, I wouldn't be alive today and that's a fact.. I would have let all my different trials beat me down and defeat me, but I'm a fighter! I'm a survivor! And I will not let anyone tell me that I haven't received healing because I don't have enough faith. The bible says we only need faith the size of a mustard seed, which is pretty much the size of a grain of salt. I have faith the size of the Atlantic Ocean..lol
Faith comes from hearing and hearing from the word of Christ....sometimes I have found in my life I have to build up my faith in whatever area I'm being attacked on.
Romans 10:17 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
Psalm 107:20 (NASB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] He sent His word and healed them, And delivered them from their destructions.
Jesus' antidote was to "teach" the people so that they could acquire the faith needed for their circumstances.
Mark 6:4-6 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.
Now see, this is what offends me and ticks me off, is when people dare to assume that I don't have ENOUGH faith to be healed.. Grace777, if I didn't have faith, I wouldn't be alive today and that's a fact.. I would have let all my different trials beat me down and defeat me, but I'm a fighter! I'm a survivor! And I will not let anyone tell me that I haven't received healing because I don't have enough faith.
The bible says we only need faith the size of a mustard seed, which is pretty much the size of a grain of salt. I have faith the size of the Atlantic Ocean..lol
There is not one instance where Jesus refused to heal someone when they came to Him......
there are many people that were around Him that did not come to Him to be healed....for instance the guy at the poll that was there for 38 years...Jesus came to him specifically and asked him if he wanted to be healed.
...there are many instances where people on their own - by their faith touched Jesus and they were healed...He didn't even know that they were there until He felt power come from Him...the woman with the issue of blood..
There are many ways for healing according to the scriptures...getting it from your own faith....someone operating in a gift of healings...laying on of hands...calling for the elders...
there are many people that were around Him that did not come to Him to be healed....for instance the guy at the poll that was there for 38 years...Jesus came to him specifically and asked him if he wanted to be healed.
...there are many instances where people on their own - by their faith touched Jesus and they were healed...He didn't even know that they were there until He felt power come from Him...the woman with the issue of blood..
There are many ways for healing according to the scriptures...getting it from your own faith....someone operating in a gift of healings...laying on of hands...calling for the elders...