Jesus's mom

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Chuckt

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Mary was only His mother here on the earth. In the spiritual realm she is not His mother. Just like when we get to heaven we will no longer be mother or father, husband or wife, cousin or uncle- we will only be siblings as God is our father. This includes Mary, or David, or Moses, or Ruth- we will all be on the same level as simply God's adoptive children. God does not show any favoritism in His children, except for Christ, His only Son, who was not adopted.
Thank you for that. You made me think of these verses:

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:


Jesus is the first. Which came first? The chicken or the egg? You've heard that before, right? Well, if the Bible says Jesus is the first then which came first? Jesus or Mary? If you go by Colossians 1:15, Mary can't be the mother of God


Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.


If Mary is His spiritual mother, Jesus doesn't have preeminence.
 
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What does this have to do with Mary?

And? LOL. Again: nothing to do with Mary.
Whom said that it has anything to do with Mary? I said that there is an Heavenly mother, that Mary represent that one and which God cannot be mocked which means that He cannot be Imitated or represented of. And so now there is a heavenly mother. By the way of not having the spirit in you to discern the scriptures for you, that in this verse that Jesus has said that I am in the father and the Father is in I, will not make any since to you because of your condition of being spiritually blind.
 
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Thank you, Chuckt....you simplified it, indeed. You made it very simple to understand. I've read other's answers and concerns about this same issue and most were long, drawn out chapter studies. However, sadly most
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I responded to a post yesterday and there were 17 pages or 331 responses afterwards in 24 hours and I don't have time to read every response but I continue to work on these things as I have time but usually I go back and forth working on every wind of heretical doctrine..
 
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God is in Jesus and Jesus is in God, and the spirit dwells with them as well; they both are one. The Holy spirit is the Holy mother, God's feminine side that shows kindness that is why that it says in this verse Isaiah 63:10 Yet they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit. So he turned and became their enemy and he himself fought against them. To me, that sound as if a man became angry for upsetting his wife. We are supposedly to be imitating those that are in heaven, but there are earthly bodies and then there is heavenly bodies. Our earthly bodies can do tings to a certain limit; like when a man and woman join together they are not one in the natural, but they only can be one in spirit. But God is a spirit. In those days, they were immature, that they could not accept a woman to be above a man, and which Paul was trying to get them to accept women as one of them. And so God had to referred the heavenly mother as the Holy spirit, or else he would of had to destroy them that speak against the ones that cries out for them. There were a apparition that had appeared throughtout history that is always referring to herself as the one that in the story of Guadalupe river, that Luke has made an image of.
This spirit always referring herself as being a part of this, but never revealed her name as the way God had done in the scriptures, by just telling the people that He is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but never revealing His name. And so this apparition at one time, has said that she the Immaculate conception; and which Immaculate means Holy, pure, and conception means what most spirits are referred as, the possessors; but she is the Holy possession, that possessed the soul to become Clean. All through the scriptures God wanted us to seek His kingdom, which means to search for it; but by our spiritual senses, like who ever has ears and let them hear. But Mary represent the Holy spirit of God. But there can only be one Father, but it never said one mother.
I'm still not understanding a little you mentioned in Isaish 63:10 the verse says yet they rebelled grieved (his) Holy Spirit if I read a few words back you mentioned the Holy Spirit is the mother (a her) is this correct? Is a mother a female and a father a male? I'm scratching my forehead alittle sorry :( moving towards the end you mentioned Mary represents the Holy Spirit of God but yet at the beginning the Holy Spirit is the holy mother

((( is there a verse in scripture that says God has a feminine side this I don't know is there such a verse? )))
 
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4enlightenment please talk to some one about this teaching you have with Mary. Magenta can help you so can tintin, you are not to biblically sound in this matter friend.
 
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Chuckt

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I'm still not understanding a little you mentioned in Isaish 63:10 the verse says yet they rebelled grieved (his) Holy Spirit if I read a few words back you mentioned the Holy Spirit is the mother (a her) is this correct? Is a mother a female and a father a male? I'm scratching my forehead alittle sorry :( moving towards the end you mentioned Mary represents the Holy Spirit of God but yet at the beginning the Holy Spirit is the holy mother

((( is there a verse in scripture that says God has a feminine side this I don't know is there such a verse? )))
The Holy Spirit is referred to in the masculine throughout the New Testament, although the word for "spirit" by itself (pneuma) is actually gender-neutral. The Hebrew word for "spirit" (ruach) is feminine in Genesis 1:2. But the gender of a word in Greek or Hebrew has nothing to do with gender identity.
Is the Holy Spirit a "He," "She," or “It,” male, female, or neuter?
 
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BeyondET

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Freewill and which only a God has; He has chosen to listen to others over Him.
Im confused alittle indeed do we us people have free will to choose to except Jesus or to do simple things in life like what ever it may be or are we controlled again I'd liked to know when did a just a non God spirit formed?
 
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I'm still not understanding a little you mentioned in Isaish 63:10 the verse says yet they rebelled grieved (his) Holy Spirit if I read a few words back you mentioned the Holy Spirit is the mother (a her) is this correct? Is a mother a female and a father a male? I'm scratching my forehead alittle sorry :( moving towards the end you mentioned Mary represents the Holy Spirit of God but yet at the beginning the Holy Spirit is the holy mother

((( is there a verse in scripture that says God has a feminine side this I don't know is there such a verse? )))
According to the Biblical scholars, they doesn't know whether the Holy spirit can be considered as a masculine spirit or feminine, and so they just put in the category of masculinity instead of femininity, just for right now. And so some just says it is an it. Because at times it seem as if it has an feminine side and then at times it seem as masculine.

The gender of the Holy Spirit has been the object of some discussion in recent years, questioning whether the Holy Spirit should be referred to as "he", "she" or "it". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_of_the_Holy_Spirit

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You develop the strength of the masculine side by having a deep belief in the value of your own life, and you develop the goodness of the feminine side by having a deep belief in the value of the life of others. http://www.lovesedona.com/02.htm
 

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Whom said that it has anything to do with Mary? I said that there is an Heavenly mother, that Mary represent that one and which God cannot be mocked which means that He cannot be Imitated or represented of. And so now there is a heavenly mother. By the way of not having the spirit in you to discern the scriptures for you, that in this verse that Jesus has said that I am in the father and the Father is in I, will not make any since to you because of your condition of being spiritually blind.
There is no heavenly mother, so why do you attempt to mock God? Everything was made by the Word, for His glory, not some figmental heavenly mother of your imagination. Why do you make stuff up? Go to your Bible and read it, and put aside all the propaganda the Roman Catholic church has spoon fed you. I realize that it is mandatory for you according to the dogmas of said church to accept the papist pap they feed you, but it is not Scriptural at all. In fact you are promoting an idol explicitly spoken against in Scripture.
 
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Im confused alittle indeed do we us people have free will to choose to except Jesus or to do simple things in life like what ever it may be or are we controlled again I'd liked to know when did a just a non God spirit formed?
let's say, that we are at the crossroad, but we hold the power to choose whether to go to the right or the left; but the spirits inspires us to help with our decision to show us what is down the road, but there an evil spirit that is among us that we listen to as well. But the one that rules over us is the one we listens to. like Jesus has said that he is the Shepherd, that his sheep listens to Him. But if my desires are not the same as His, then I will choose the left. And so we has a free flowing desires that lead us, that God doesn't has no control over what a soul loves. But walking them through to see if they can see eye to eye, but if not, then they are removed.
 
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Chuckt

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According to the Biblical scholars, they doesn't know whether the Holy spirit can be considered as a masculine spirit or feminine, and so they just put in the category of masculinity instead of femininity, just for right now. And so some just says it is an it. Because at times it seem as if it has an feminine side and then at times it seem as masculine.

The gender of the Holy Spirit has been the object of some discussion in recent years, questioning whether the Holy Spirit should be referred to as "he", "she" or "it".
So?

The Bible uses masculine pronouns for the Holy Spirit and God wrote it down because people lie which leads to discussion in recent years questioning God. "Hath God said?", said the serpent.
 

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According to the Biblical scholars, they doesn't know whether the Holy spirit can be considered as a masculine spirit or feminine, and so they just put in the category of masculinity instead of femininity, just for right now. And so some just says it is an it. Because at times it seem as if it has an feminine side and then at times it seem as masculine.

The gender of the Holy Spirit has been the object of some discussion in recent years, questioning whether the Holy Spirit should be referred to as "he", "she" or "it". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_of_the_Holy_Spirit
An eternal Person of the Godhead should never be referred to as an "it." How disrespectful are you really? We are already getting a very good picture of how much.
 
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There is no heavenly mother, so why do you attempt to mock God? Everything was made by the Word, for His glory, not some figmental heavenly mother of your imagination. Why do you make stuff up? Go to your Bible and read it, and put aside all the propaganda the Roman Catholic church has spoon fed you. I realize that it is mandatory for you according to the dogmas of said church to accept the papist pap they feed you, but it is not Scriptural at all. In fact you are promoting an idol explicitly spoken against in Scripture.
And so who's the one that cries out because her children are no more. And an Idol is someone or thing that you worship and most likely almost everyone suffers from that because they love money and willing to kill someone whom will try to take that from them; but I was wondering would they do that for Jesus. But Jesus has said that no one cannot snatched none of His, but can you have that same mentality that He has for those? But if someone tries to steal your man from you, that all hell will break loose. Jesus has said if you love Him, keep what he commanded them to do, and that is to love your enemies; but there is not that much love in the world that some will do that for any one.
 

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And so who's the one that cries out because her children are no more.
Do you not even read what you post?

Jeremiah 31:15 This is what the Lord says: “A voice is heard in Ramah, mourning and great weeping, Rachel weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because they are no more.”

NOT Mary!

And an Idol is someone or thing that you worship and most likely almost everyone suffers from that because they love money and willing to kill someone whom will try to take that from them; but I was wondering would they do that for Jesus. But Jesus has said that no one cannot snatched none of His, but can you have that same mentality that He has for those? But if someone tries to steal your man from you, that all hell will break loose. Jesus has said if you love Him, keep what he commanded them to do, and that is to love your enemies; but there is not that much love in the world that some will do that for any one.
Roman Catholicism has made an idol out of Mary. Only a blind person such as yourself could fail to see it.
 
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Chuckt

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The gender of the Holy Spirit has been the object of some discussion in recent years, questioning whether the Holy Spirit should be referred to as "he", "she" or "it".
The problem with the view that the Holy Spirit is an "it" is false because the Holy Spirit is not only spoken of in masculine pronouns but the Holy Spirit has a mind, a will and emotions which makes Him a person.
 
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An eternal Person of the Godhead should never be referred to as an "it." How disrespectful are you really? We are already getting a very good picture of how much.
You cannot read that wiki site that these are the opinion of the Biblical scholars that you read the translation of the books. And so, tell that to them. They are the ones that has more knowledge of Biblical understandings than what you have.
 
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BeyondET

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Or the Energy to create a living Energy the Spirit of God Energy Adsense of gender.
 
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The problem with the view that the Holy Spirit is an "it" is false because the Holy Spirit is not only spoken of in masculine pronouns but the Holy Spirit has a mind, a will and emotions which makes Him a person.
right now because of its dual nature, that they cannot decide whether to considered the spirit of God as masculine or feminine. being humble is a feminine act that only women had done, but men had too much pride to do such a woman's thing.
 

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You cannot read that wiki site that these are the opinion of the Biblical scholars that you read the translation of the books. And so, tell that to them. They are the ones that has more knowledge of Biblical understandings than what you have.
More of your disrespect. In fact, you don't know what they know, or even if they are saved, or what I know for that matter, though we know you are a liar. Yes, we have seen it all before, your kind, coming to a Protestant site to promote your Romanist heresies. Very disrespectful.