We is not everyone, no matter how hard you try to twist it to mean something other than what I explicitly stated. Why don't you just admit you are wrong? Or is that too much to expect from someone like you? You are not here to talk about Mary at all, are you? When your little heresies were shown to be heretical, you immediately maliciously attacked me. I think you are a troll.
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This conversation should of have been squashed a few post ago; but for some reason you are trying to untwist what you have stated and to defend yourself; sound as if you are a child that doesn't want to be discovered and or you an troll afraid of losing your job, because once a troll is discovered then the site will be aware of trolls that are on the site and their manipulating games will not work any more. As I had said on other sites, that they only hires people that hates society and wants it to be destroy and they choose them to becomes trolls. Like I said that you has something against Mary, but doesn't has anything against paganism artwork.
Matthew 22:16 They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, “we know that you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are.
Matthew 22:16 They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, “we know that you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are.
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God bless you, Tintin! Many shades of purple have graced my life since I painted my bedroom lavender and mauve as a sixteen year old 
Magenta is also a name that was given to me by a very dear friend who has since passed away. Wow, she has been gone sixteen years already A number of people call me Magenta in my day-to-day life. It is not just a screen name! A lot of people call me purple "insert my name here." I am a member of a fairly large fellowship, so when people say, purple "name" everyone knows exactly who is being referred to. That other person is just being incredibly disrespectful.
Magenta is also a name that was given to me by a very dear friend who has since passed away. Wow, she has been gone sixteen years already A number of people call me Magenta in my day-to-day life. It is not just a screen name! A lot of people call me purple "insert my name here." I am a member of a fairly large fellowship, so when people say, purple "name" everyone knows exactly who is being referred to. That other person is just being incredibly disrespectful.
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God several times throughout Scripture says He will not share His glory,
while Catholics glorify, venerate, and adore Mary. Jesus did not once in
Scripture address Mary as His mother, but Catholics call her the mother
of humanity, and as if that were not enough, the queen of heaven.
Jesus said that anyone who did the will of God was His mother, His brother,
His sister. Jesus never elevated Mary above others, but Catholics feel a need
to not just elevate Mary above others, but they put her on a par with Jesus in
terms of His sinlessness! (Do you really think that she needed to be sinless so
that Jesus Christ would be sinless?) They are forced by so-called infallible
papal decree to accept the Marian dogmas of her bodily assumption and
immaculate conception, neither of which have any basis whatsoever in Scripture.
Jesus told us to pray to our Father in heaven, yet they pray to Mary, because
their popes tell them to despite what Jesus explicitly instructed. Scripture
clearly states that there is one intercessor between God and man, yet their
popes, bishops, priests, parishioners etc, will tell you to pray to Mary, and
other dead people, for intercession. They fault those who do as Jesus
suggested, while they disobey Him to follow someone else instead.
We see nothing in Scripture to endorse her bodily assumption, her perpetual
virginity (Jesus had siblings after all, two of whom have books in the Bible!),
her immaculate conception. We see no need to pray to her, or any ability on
her part, as dead as she is believed to be, to intercede on our behalf against
the explicit words of Jesus in Scripture.
Within Catholicism, there is a drive to define a new Marian dogma in which
Catholics, as a matter of faith, would be obliged to accept: 1) Mary participates
in redemption with Jesus Christ; 2) grace is granted by Jesus only through the
intercession of Mary; and 3) all prayers from the faithful must flow through Mary,
who brings them to the attention of her Son.
God several times throughout Scripture says He will not share His glory,
while Catholics glorify, venerate, and adore Mary. Jesus did not once in
Scripture address Mary as His mother, but Catholics call her the mother
of humanity, and as if that were not enough, the queen of heaven.
Jesus said that anyone who did the will of God was His mother, His brother,
His sister. Jesus never elevated Mary above others, but Catholics feel a need
to not just elevate Mary above others, but they put her on a par with Jesus in
terms of His sinlessness! (Do you really think that she needed to be sinless so
that Jesus Christ would be sinless?) They are forced by so-called infallible
papal decree to accept the Marian dogmas of her bodily assumption and
immaculate conception, neither of which have any basis whatsoever in Scripture.
Jesus told us to pray to our Father in heaven, yet they pray to Mary, because
their popes tell them to despite what Jesus explicitly instructed. Scripture
clearly states that there is one intercessor between God and man, yet their
popes, bishops, priests, parishioners etc, will tell you to pray to Mary, and
other dead people, for intercession. They fault those who do as Jesus
suggested, while they disobey Him to follow someone else instead.
We see nothing in Scripture to endorse her bodily assumption, her perpetual
virginity (Jesus had siblings after all, two of whom have books in the Bible!),
her immaculate conception. We see no need to pray to her, or any ability on
her part, as dead as she is believed to be, to intercede on our behalf against
the explicit words of Jesus in Scripture.
Within Catholicism, there is a drive to define a new Marian dogma in which
Catholics, as a matter of faith, would be obliged to accept: 1) Mary participates
in redemption with Jesus Christ; 2) grace is granted by Jesus only through the
intercession of Mary; and 3) all prayers from the faithful must flow through Mary,
who brings them to the attention of her Son.
In what the apostate church refers to as the "Hail Mary," the hierarchy uses partial truth to justify this brainwashing prayer for up to "Blessed is the Fruit of thy womb," it is truth, however it follows with Holy Mary, mother of god, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
God has no beginning and no end; this is written in the Word. We are not to pray to anything other than to God for we are given this privilege to enter into the holiest by the flesh of Jesus Christ..
I know that Mary is most blessed amongst woman, but she would be the first to blush at this attention given to her as some sort of mediator between the faithful and God the Father..
This is one example of how the very educated of the Catholic church teach blasphemy when they know better by the words and teachings contained within the words of the Bible. There is no excuse for them unless they repent of teachign error to those whom they control.
It is written our Father will call His children out of the Great Whore on Seven HIlls, so this tells me there are faithful in that church. That Whore is the mother of whores, so I imagine many other apostate assemblies witll experience the same "falling away."
No one who believes Jesus Christ will pray to a saint, Mary, or angel instead of to God directly. We know better because of the Word....Praise God, thinking Him for Mary, Joseph, the Apostles and all saints, but praise God only, for all others in these are servants just as are you and I, amen.
God has no beginning and no end; this is written in the Word. We are not to pray to anything other than to God for we are given this privilege to enter into the holiest by the flesh of Jesus Christ..
I know that Mary is most blessed amongst woman, but she would be the first to blush at this attention given to her as some sort of mediator between the faithful and God the Father..
This is one example of how the very educated of the Catholic church teach blasphemy when they know better by the words and teachings contained within the words of the Bible. There is no excuse for them unless they repent of teachign error to those whom they control.
It is written our Father will call His children out of the Great Whore on Seven HIlls, so this tells me there are faithful in that church. That Whore is the mother of whores, so I imagine many other apostate assemblies witll experience the same "falling away."
No one who believes Jesus Christ will pray to a saint, Mary, or angel instead of to God directly. We know better because of the Word....Praise God, thinking Him for Mary, Joseph, the Apostles and all saints, but praise God only, for all others in these are servants just as are you and I, amen.
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This is ridiculous! STOP THE PAIR OF YOU!!
Magenta, take a deep breath and let the Holy Spirit have a minute of your time; Take a while, think about not getting frustrated.
4enlightenment, why do you answer things that obviously cause you irritation? I can see you have 'a' knowledge of what you speak of. Here I must part company with your theology. I hate using big words and lots of meaningless words to try and make a point so I will try not to.
"God said 'let us create man in our own image' " the 'us' here is multi, the triune God head, as with David's psalm 23 "Thy rod and staff they comfort me" 'Thy' first 'rod' second 'staff' third, still the triune God head. We all agree God is male (this is stupid, The Spirit inside me is shouting at me to stop this madness) therefore the Holy Spirit is male. (These last 6 words have caused me some distress)
Let me share with you a Spirit thing that He has shown me. 'I do not have the right to get angry or annoyed with anyone for disagreeing with me, saying anything about me or generally mocking me'. In this I ask those still looking at this thread pray for these two co-workers in Christ. Pray for a filling of the Holy Spirit, for peace, for protected eyes as they look at scripture, for protected ears as they listen to what scripture has to say and an opened heart for Jesus to be able to enter in and a receptive heart so He can remove all that is not from Him.
Magenta I see your enthusiasm for Christ and His church, it truly is wonderful! Here is a thing, we don't have to get upset with anyone who is trying to turn the world upside down, just pray for them, because Jesus who holds all things together (creation, etc etc) is big enough to sort out His Church, it/we are His after all.
I am not going in to all of what you have written down 4enlightenment, it is enough for me to 'know' that you will be touched by God and that there will be a time when you are truly at peace with yourself. It may take some more arguments with others and the Spirit, but Jesus has big shoulders and an even bigger heart.
God bless
Magenta, take a deep breath and let the Holy Spirit have a minute of your time; Take a while, think about not getting frustrated.
4enlightenment, why do you answer things that obviously cause you irritation? I can see you have 'a' knowledge of what you speak of. Here I must part company with your theology. I hate using big words and lots of meaningless words to try and make a point so I will try not to.
"God said 'let us create man in our own image' " the 'us' here is multi, the triune God head, as with David's psalm 23 "Thy rod and staff they comfort me" 'Thy' first 'rod' second 'staff' third, still the triune God head. We all agree God is male (this is stupid, The Spirit inside me is shouting at me to stop this madness) therefore the Holy Spirit is male. (These last 6 words have caused me some distress)
Let me share with you a Spirit thing that He has shown me. 'I do not have the right to get angry or annoyed with anyone for disagreeing with me, saying anything about me or generally mocking me'. In this I ask those still looking at this thread pray for these two co-workers in Christ. Pray for a filling of the Holy Spirit, for peace, for protected eyes as they look at scripture, for protected ears as they listen to what scripture has to say and an opened heart for Jesus to be able to enter in and a receptive heart so He can remove all that is not from Him.
Magenta I see your enthusiasm for Christ and His church, it truly is wonderful! Here is a thing, we don't have to get upset with anyone who is trying to turn the world upside down, just pray for them, because Jesus who holds all things together (creation, etc etc) is big enough to sort out His Church, it/we are His after all.
I am not going in to all of what you have written down 4enlightenment, it is enough for me to 'know' that you will be touched by God and that there will be a time when you are truly at peace with yourself. It may take some more arguments with others and the Spirit, but Jesus has big shoulders and an even bigger heart.
God bless
Not strictly correct, sometimes ruach (spirit) is feminine in Scripture, and sometimes it is masculine, (there is no neuter in Hebrew)
In the greek pneuma (spirit) is neuter, but for example Jesus refers to Him as HE (masculine, not neuter).
God is above being either masculine or feminine. He is described as He because we do not have the words to describe Him.
In the greek pneuma (spirit) is neuter, but for example Jesus refers to Him as HE (masculine, not neuter).
God is above being either masculine or feminine. He is described as He because we do not have the words to describe Him.
God bless you, Tintin! Many shades of purple have graced my life since I painted my bedroom lavender and mauve as a sixteen year old Magenta is also a name that was given to me by a very dear friend who has since passed away. Wow, she has been gone sixteen years already A number of people call me Magenta in my day-to-day life. It is not just a screen name! A lot of people call me purple "insert my name here." I am a member of a fairly large fellowship, so when people say, purple "name" everyone knows exactly who is being referred to. That other person is just being incredibly disrespectful.
Magenta is also a name that was given to me by a very dear friend who has since passed away. Wow, she has been gone sixteen years already A number of people call me Magenta in my day-to-day life. It is not just a screen name! A lot of people call me purple "insert my name here." I am a member of a fairly large fellowship, so when people say, purple "name" everyone knows exactly who is being referred to. That other person is just being incredibly disrespectful.
Originally Posted by valiant
Not strictly correct, sometimes ruach (spirit) is feminine in Scripture, and sometimes it is masculine, (there is no neuter in Hebrew)
In the greek pneuma (spirit) is neuter, but for example Jesus refers to Him as HE (masculine, not neuter).
God is above being either masculine or feminine. He is described as He because we do not have the words to describe Him.
In the greek pneuma (spirit) is neuter, but for example Jesus refers to Him as HE (masculine, not neuter).
God is above being either masculine or feminine. He is described as He because we do not have the words to describe Him.
as for the other point SOOOOO?
Mary was born a sinner, sinned her whole life, and died a sinner.
Mary was only the mother of the body that the Son of God used to walk on the Earth. To actually claim that Mary was the mother of the Eternal God who had no beginning is a lie.
You need to understand that the Catholics have no fear of God. They actually believe Mary is greater than God. In fact many a Catholic believes God has to do what Mary says because they believe she is His mother!
No Catholic who prays the Rosary can ever call themselves a child of God.
Mary was only the mother of the body that the Son of God used to walk on the Earth. To actually claim that Mary was the mother of the Eternal God who had no beginning is a lie.
You need to understand that the Catholics have no fear of God. They actually believe Mary is greater than God. In fact many a Catholic believes God has to do what Mary says because they believe she is His mother!
No Catholic who prays the Rosary can ever call themselves a child of God.
at that prehistoric time of the first verse of John 1, the Word was not (yet) the Son of God.
He divested himself of His glory as a spirit divinity to be begotten as a human person.
He was made God’s Son, through being begotten or sired by God and born of the virgin Mary.
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The Greek parakletos (comforter) is masculine in gender, so translators used the personal
pronouns he and him for the Greek masculine pronouns. In many languages, a word’s gender
has nothing to do with whether the thing itself is literally male or female. For example,
the Spanish word mesa (table) is feminine. Gender in language is a mere grammatical tool.
In Greek, as in English, the word spirit is neuter—neither masculine nor feminine in gender.
Pneuma is the Greek word meaning “spirit.” It is always grammatically neuter, properly
represented by the English pronoun “it” (John 1:32; Romans 8:16).
He divested himself of His glory as a spirit divinity to be begotten as a human person.
He was made God’s Son, through being begotten or sired by God and born of the virgin Mary.
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The Greek parakletos (comforter) is masculine in gender, so translators used the personal
pronouns he and him for the Greek masculine pronouns. In many languages, a word’s gender
has nothing to do with whether the thing itself is literally male or female. For example,
the Spanish word mesa (table) is feminine. Gender in language is a mere grammatical tool.
In Greek, as in English, the word spirit is neuter—neither masculine nor feminine in gender.
Pneuma is the Greek word meaning “spirit.” It is always grammatically neuter, properly
represented by the English pronoun “it” (John 1:32; Romans 8:16).