Well indeed I do care about that false teaching about suicide and the Blood of Jesus doesn't sound good what he teaches, because I care about people, but I only looked it up for that reason. It does bother me that so much people follow him and do like him, write the whole charismatic movement off and because some Copeland believes little gods whatever nonsense
God stopped healing 2000 years ago. He preaches cessationism and grieves the Holy Spirit like that guy said during his meeting and others follow him and do the same. I think Michael Brown put it best and he's really concerned about him.
And please from what I showed here, that's WOF teaching. What exactly is occult about it? Bible texts please, not: so and so is a heretic so it's all occult.
Copeland isn't the only one. It's the doctrine all WoF proponents teach. There is enough sources for research available and I would recommend you look into it. Pertaining to healing and continuationism:
Healing - Everyone should be healed physically and spiritually after conversion. This is standard WoF doctrine.
1. Many WoF preachers or their kids or spouses or all in the past have died from or suffered from physical ailments (heart disease and cancer primarily)
2. E.W. Kenyon who was plagiarized by Hagin to jump start the WoF movement died of a malignant brain tumor
3. Hagin suffered on four different occasions cardiovascular failure; Christianity in Crises, pp.237-238; a Different Gospel by D.L McConnell
4. Hagin claims he was healed of numerous sicknesses a “deformed heart,” “paralysis,” and “incurable blood disease.” He also declared his “healing from the top of my head to the soles of my feet” on August 7, 1934, so that “every symptom of distress, deficiency and physical wrongness was driven out of my body,” perpetually. “I'm still healed after 49 years,” Hagin said. (Kenneth E. Hagin, Exceedingly Growing Faith, 2d rev. ed. [Tulsa, OK: Kenneth Hagin Ministries, 1990, 48-49, 82-83.) His healing occurred on
Tuesday of the “second week” of August 1934, or August 7, which was not the same date as the “second Tuesday” that month [August 14). Elsewhere Hagin gives various dates, such as “6 days before my 17th birthday [August 20, 1934,” which would be August 14, the “second Tuesday of August 1934”: (Kenneth E. Hagin, El Shaddai [Tulsa, OK: Kenneth Hagin Ministries, 19801, 24-25.) But see Kenneth E. Hagin, How You Can Be Led by the Spirit of God (Tulsa, OK: Kenneth Hagin Ministries, 1978), 87 (healing on a “Thursday” in August 1934). In still another place Hagin claims his healing was on “August 8, 1934,” which was a Wednesday (Kenneth E. Hagin, Zoe: The God-Kind of Life [Tulsa, OK: Kenneth Hagin Ministries, 1981], 13.) Maybe Hagin needs his memory healed as well. (adopted from Christianity in Crises)
Kenneth Hagin died Sept. 23.2003 After eating breakfast his head fell to his chest. Charisma News Service reported that “An exact cause of death was not immediately known” Hagin had been hospitalized in a cardiac intensive care unit since Sept. 14, when he collapsed at home. (Charisma News Service September 23, 2003 edition People & Lifestyle) We later find out that was transported by an ambulance admitted to the cardiac intensive care unit and remained in the hospital until he died. This become an interesting point of contention because Hagin claimed he was healed of his heart problem supernaturally years before. He also held to the belief that one should actually wear out, not die this way.
Death by Faith
5. On January 6, 1999 Diane Sawyer, and Sam Donaldson of 20/20 did a report on the Followers of Christ, where over a thousand people attend a small church outside Portland, Oregon. An alarming number of children in the Followers have died while their parents prayed instead of getting a doctor. 78 children are buried since 1955 in the Followers of Christ cemetery just outside Oregon City. Doctors said at least 21 probably would have lived with medical intervention, often by using simple antibiotics.
20/20 - Taking Faith Healing to (sic) Far? (20/20 interview)
6. An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children who died under the care of faith healers would most likely have survived, if they had received medical care. Eighty-one percent of the deaths were caused by conditions that had a medical survival rate of 90%.
http://childrenshealthcare.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Pediatricsarticle.pdf (Child Fatalities From Religion-motivated Medical Neglect)
I could go on about the deaths, but this is a good starting point for anyone who wants to look into it. Beyond the obvious dangers of this teaching, let's examine where their "perfect health in the atonement" doctrine comes from and why it is heretical:
WoF preachers quote Isaiah 53:5 and Matthew 8:17 which is a quote of Isaiah 53:5. They claim that these verses are "proof text" for physical healing always in the hear and now. Apart from the many thousands of deaths that have resulted in this claim, they have abused these verses to push their agenda. These verses in no way validate their doctrine that everyone should be physically well. The atonement by definition was to atone for our sin "sickness", not physical ailments. We won't fully realize perfection in our bodies til we are given new ones.
To further push this doctrine of perfect health, they teach "faith as a force" or "positive confession". They cite Proverbs 18:21 as "proof text". But the text itself does not mean we have the power of creation or uncreation as they promote it. We can't "speak things into existence". This is an occult doctrine adapted from "New Thought" which was introduced first by Kenyon and next by Hagin. This is called the "law of attraction" and is not biblical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_attraction_(New_Thought)
They use this "law of attraction" doctrine to support their "little gods" doctrine since a little god should never be sick. All of the WoF preachers support the little gods doctrine regardless of what you believe. You can find videos of all of them on youtube teaching this at one time or another. The only person in the bible to claim to be a god, other than God, is satan. In fact, the WoF teachers are simply repeating the lie told to Eve by satan in the garden.
Furthermore, let's forget they teach all of this and forget the thousands of deaths that have resulted in their abberant teaching and focus on who they believe Christ is. Many of them claim that Jesus was born a man just like us and without deity. They claim he later bacame divine and went to the cross. While on the cross, they claim he "took on the nature of satan" and lost his deity again. From here, he went to hell and suffered at the hands of demons for 3 days (this is an adaptation of hell as described in Dante's Inferno and not scripture). They claim Jesus was then "the first born again man" and was released from hell and reclaiming his deity. They push this doctrine to further their little gods doctrine, by claiming we all become deity, equal to God once we are born again.
These are heretical teachings pushed by WoF teachers. Many thousands have died from these teachings and they prey on the poor as they fleece them for every cent, promising them miracles and healing for their faith and monetary dontations. If you can't see the utter darkness and evil nature of these doctrines, them I am so sorry for you.
I could have written you a book and cited tons of valid sources, but there just isn't enough room on the forum to show you all my points. That is why I urge you or anyone else to seriously do their own studies into this and see for themselves what the WoF movement is born from. It is not Christian. It is mostly just satanic.
