Does God ever break His word to us?

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FreeNChrist

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This is God's word for you today Phil....

Romans 8:38-39

"And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord."
 
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phil112

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You folks that believe in permanent security, that once saved always saved, need to get out of the deep end of the pool. You're floundering. You're choking on strong meat.
What's sad is it isn't even that strong. Your bottle of milk needs to be strained before the nipple is screwed on.
Yes, I'm being very confrontational here. If Paul can withstand Peter to his face, then I can withstand you and your false doctrine to your faces also.
Defending the word. That is also an order. You've been taught false doctrine and you refuse to let it go. Don't let it cost you your salvation. Adding to or taking away from, perverting, God's word is a very serious infraction.

Utah, freenChrist, and you others. I'm putting the trumpet to my lips. You've rejected my testimony. I lie not.
You think that a drunken carouser can go to heaven. That is heresy. That is a lie against the word of God.

Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
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You people better stop and think about it. Long and hard. What do you call people that continually do and say foolish things? I'll let you figure that one out.
Stop this foolish nonsensical jabber. It is so much tripe.
 
Utah

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Gee whiz golly willikers. What are we to do? Trust Jesus who conquered death so that we may live or go with Phil who wouldn't understand grace if it bit him in the mule? Decisions, decisions.
 
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kaylagrl

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FreeNChrist said:
Yes.

Our lives are not hypotheticals. The reality is that you didn’t die, and that you were a Christian before any of that happened and you are still a Christian after....and you were a Christian through that whole time as well. Even at your worst Christ had never left you and it was Christ who brought you through that. Whether you are or were aware of it or not.
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So if I'm a born again Christian,I backslide and commit a murder and have an accident and die that day do I go to heaven or hell?
 
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kaylagrl

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FreeNChrist said:
This is God's word for you today Phil....

Romans 8:38-39

"And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord."
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Cannot separate us,that doesn't mean we cannot walk away of our own free will.


Luke 9- "No one, after putting his hand to the plow and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God."
 
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kaylagrl said:
So if I'm a born again Christian,I backslide and commit a murder and have an accident and die that day do I go to heaven or hell?
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Heaven, my dear Sister. You describe someone who backslid; you didn't describe someone who renounced their faith in Jesus, which is worse than murder as far as salvation goes. :)
 
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kaylagrl

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Utah said:
Heaven, my dear Sister. You describe someone who backslid; you didn't describe someone who renounced their faith in Jesus, which is worse than murder as far as salvation goes. :)
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Oh no!!!! We found something we disagree on???? Back to politics,back to politics. I cannot disagree with Utah.:(
 
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FreeNChrist

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kaylagrl said:
So if I'm a born again Christian,I backslide and commit a murder and have an accident and die that day do I go to heaven or hell?
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Born again Christians do not go to hell.
 
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FreeNChrist

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kaylagrl said:
Cannot separate us,that doesn't mean we cannot walk away of our own free will.


Luke 9- "No one, after putting his hand to the plow and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God."
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"Nothing" includes you.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Oh no!!!! We found something we disagree on???? Back to politics,back to politics. I cannot disagree with Utah.:(
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LOL. :)

I wouldn't go so far as to say there wouldn't be consequences for murdering then dying before repenting, but I firmly believe our salvation by grace through faith is irrevocable.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
If salvation is depended on our "performance" and not Christ's "promises"...we are in trouble!
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The promise was the gift of the holy spirit which gives us the ability to do the things necessary for salvation and become the people of GOD.
 
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kaylagrl

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Utah said:
LOL. :)

I wouldn't go so far as to say there wouldn't be consequences for murdering then dying before repenting, but I firmly believe our salvation by grace through faith is irrevocable.
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As long as we dont walk away,of our free will I would agree with you. And that's all I can say. I respect you Mr Utah to say anymore. :)
 
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kaylagrl

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Grace777x70 said:
If salvation is depended on our "performance" and not Christ's "promises"...we are in trouble!
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Ugh,I can't go against a fellow Canuck either. I may have to bow out of this one. sigh
 
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John146

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There are certain things God has changed His mind on and there are certain things He will never change His mind. His eternal promises, God will never change His mind.
 
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FreeNChrist

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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
The promise was the gift of the holy spirit which gives us the ability to do the things necessary for salvation and become the people of GOD.
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That's Holy Spirit, not holy spirit. Stop insulting HIM. And "we" don't do "necessary" things for salvation, Jesus did what was necessary.
 
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mpaper345

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God does not break His promise,but some people break their covenant with God,by not doing what is required of them in the eyes of God.

The Bible says we will be saved if we continue in the goodness of God,and we do that by allowing the Spirit to lead us.

Some people deny the Spirit leading them,which the Bible says they have a form of godliness,but deny the power thereof,ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth,and lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God,which Jesus denied some people that claimed Him,because He said they were workers of iniquity,and did not do the will of the Father,and 5 of the 10 virgins were only granted access to heaven,which were the ones that oil in their lamp,which is the word of God taught by the Spirit,and oil in their vessels,which they allowed the Spirit to lead them.

But all we have to do is allow the Spirit to lead us,and we have no problem,but some people break their covenant with God.

God will not break His promise if we do what is right,because the gifts and calling of God are without repentance,which means once God calls you,and you are saved,He will not turn from it.

Once saved always saved cannot be true,for then God's kingdom would not be true love,and the Bible says God is not willing that any perish,but all come to be repentance,and be saved,and Jesus is the savior of all people,and lights every person that comes in this world,which means that everybody can be saved,and the Bible says whosoever will can be saved,and anybody that calls on the Lord can be saved.
 
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