Help me.

[coby]

That was the very first thought that ran across my mind, too.

And, almost everyone in the world who is fat, is that way only because of the huge amount of food we ingest.
Absolutely NOT TRUE. You are severely uninformed as to what can cause obesity, Willie. It CAN be caused by food, yes, BUT most often it's caused by meds, heredity or a chemical imbalance in the thyroid. So to suggest that fat people are ONLY fat because they eat too much really is rather insulting. You need to educate yourself on the subject of obesity, so you won't sound ignorant the next time you speak on the subject. :/

One guy found out that it can be caused by a virus.

 

[Depleted]

That was the very first thought that ran across my mind, too.

And, almost everyone in the world who is fat, is that way only because of the huge amount of food we ingest.

Not really. I was fat while eating within my caloric intake for my height and gender. I was fat because I was disabled. Can't do as much, and that caloric intake changes.

I lost weight (1-2 pounds a month for a couple of years) by cutting back even further on caloric intake.

Now I'm stressed. I'm also a stress eater, but I have no choice but to do what is killing me to do. (Okay, it's killing my back, not me.) So here I am eating more than I should but neither gaining nor losing, because I'm more active and dang! The stress is very much weighing on me. My metabolism actually rose higher than it has since I was young. Not good, since its stress, but at least just eating some Fritos until I have the ability to make a real lunch won't make me gain weight either.

I know fat people who have low thyroid levels too. (Mine is sort of low.) And I know poor people who are fat because you can buy much more potatoes and pasta for $10 than meat or veggies. I'd rather have a week's worth of something that fills my stomach, than one night of eating right, followed by six days of going hungry.

 

[Depleted]

That was the very first thought that ran across my mind, too.

And, almost everyone in the world who is fat, is that way only because of the huge amount of food we ingest.

Absolutely NOT TRUE. You are severely uninformed as to what can cause obesity, Willie. It CAN be caused by food, yes, BUT most often it's caused by meds, heredity or a chemical imbalance in the thyroid. So to suggest that fat people are ONLY fat because they eat too much really is rather insulting. You need to educate yourself on the subject of obesity, so you won't sound ignorant the next time you speak on the subject. :/

(I'm not sure if my coding fixes the formatting problem, so, if it doesn't, oh well.)

Meds! Forgot meds. Two of mine cause extra weight too!

 

[Depleted]

While heredity, medications, thyroid conditions, etc can be the cause of eating too much, the bottom line is that obesity is caused from consuming more calories than you burn.
Lack of burning calories can be caused by any of the above, or lack of exercise, whatever. If your body is not burning any calories, you should not be putting any in.

This is why, when a medical patient is at the end of life, and the medical staff suggest removing the feeding tube, it is NOT "starving them to death". Their bodies do not NEED food at that point.

edit:.... sorry, no intent to hijack the thread.

Hubby hasn't eaten anything in 15 weeks. He has a feeding tube now, but he has lost 80 pounds. The scary part is he didn't even get a feeding tube for three days and he was still "discharging." (Delicate way of saying that. lol) Judging from that, I think there is something to it is starving them to death. When the body runs out of food to consume, it consumes itself. At least that's what a couple of nurses told me.

 

[Depleted]

Batman, just to give you some idea of what I meant in my first post to you, that I know of, (not to be confused with I know everyone. I really only do know some people on here), at least three disabled people responded to you with helpful suggestions and support. And one person said he found the woman worth marrying on this site. (Not that this site is a dating service by any means, but true friendships start on here.) So it is possible to do something helpful even if disabled and it is possible to have long-lasting friendships with everything you already have -- the ability to write, a computer and internet access.

No more excuses. You are now set to be a useful member of society and see that what goes around comes around. Love your neighbor as yourself. We're your neighbors! Get used to us.

 

[Willie-T]

That was the very first thought that ran across my mind, too.

And, almost everyone in the world who is fat, is that way only because of the huge amount of food we ingest.
Absolutely NOT TRUE. You are severely uninformed as to what can cause obesity, Willie. It CAN be caused by food, yes, BUT most often it's caused by meds, heredity or a chemical imbalance in the thyroid. So to suggest that fat people are ONLY fat because they eat too much really is rather insulting. You need to educate yourself on the subject of obesity, so you won't sound ignorant the next time you speak on the subject. :/

And who campaigns for all that propaganda? Fat people. The truth is often hard to swallow (no pun intended), but most of us are fat, simply because we can't push away from the table.

 

[Tresnouveau_ne]

That was the very first thought that ran across my mind, too.

And, almost everyone in the world who is fat, is that way only because of the huge amount of food we ingest.
Absolutely NOT TRUE. You are severely uninformed as to what can cause obesity, Willie. It CAN be caused by food, yes, BUT most often it's caused by meds, heredity or a chemical imbalance in the thyroid. So to suggest that fat people are ONLY fat because they eat too much really is rather insulting. You need to educate yourself on the subject of obesity, so you won't sound ignorant the next time you speak on the subject. :/

Most often? That is a very untrue statement!
Medical issues and heredity may be a contributing factor but certainly not the main cause. Alot of the time, the chemical imbalance comes from eating nutrient empty foods day in and day out AND, the majority of people eat when their body just wants water! How many people on meds eat only whole foods? The meds were designed to help a body whose diet is only whole foods and proper water intake.. Did you know that? The main cause of obesity is bad food,too much food, not enough water, and no to little exercise.

There is also an epidemic of over medicated people in the USA too! They are overly medicated because their diet is very bad. Medication is designed to be ingested by a body that is eating whole foods . This is the doctors fault for not educating their patients but it is also the fault of the patient for not educating themselves to have a healthier body with less weight to carry around!!

 

[Tresnouveau_ne]

And who campaigns for all that propaganda? Fat people. The truth is often hard to swallow (no pun intended), but most of us are fat, simply because we can't push away from the table.

I mostly agree with you! Its not just pushing away from the table but what is ON the table along with other factors that play into the equation.!

 

[Willie-T]

Not really. I was fat while eating within my caloric intake for my height and gender. I was fat because I was disabled. Can't do as much, and that caloric intake changes.

I lost weight (1-2 pounds a month for a couple of years) by cutting back even further on caloric intake.

Now I'm stressed. I'm also a stress eater, but I have no choice but to do what is killing me to do. (Okay, it's killing my back, not me.) So here I am eating more than I should but neither gaining nor losing, because I'm more active and dang! The stress is very much weighing on me. My metabolism actually rose higher than it has since I was young. Not good, since its stress, but at least just eating some Fritos until I have the ability to make a real lunch won't make me gain weight either.

I know fat people who have low thyroid levels too. (Mine is sort of low.) And I know poor people who are fat because you can buy much more potatoes and pasta for $10 than meat or veggies. I'd rather have a week's worth of something that fills my stomach, than one night of eating right, followed by six days of going hungry.

You can buy seeds, and put in a garden (Remember that God started us out that way) for almost no money.

And our diets should be 60 to 80% leafy green vegetables, anyway.

 

[Willie-T]

I mostly agree with you! Its not just pushing away from the table but what is ON the table along with other factors that play into the equation.!

Yes, that's quite true. You can eat all day long, a little bit every hour if you want, as long as you are eating the right things... and NOT the wrong things. In fact, eating like that is much better for you than "three squares a day."

 

[hornetguy]

Most often? That is a very untrue statement!
Medical issues and heredity may be a contributing factor but certainly not the main cause. Alot of the time, the chemical imbalance comes from eating nutrient empty foods day in and day out AND, the majority of people eat when their body just wants water! How many people on meds eat only whole foods? The meds were designed to help a body whose diet is only whole foods and proper water intake.. Did you know that? The main cause of obesity is bad food,too much food, not enough water, and no to little exercise.

There is also an epidemic of over medicated people in the USA too! They are overly medicated because their diet is very bad. Medication is designed to be ingested by a body that is eating whole foods . This is the doctors fault for not educating their patients but it is also the fault of the patient for not educating themselves to have a healthier body with less weight to carry around!!

I wish that I could "like" this post twice!

Please understand, I'm not slamming fat people... I'm about 30 pounds heavier than I should be, and I know exactly why. I haven't been eating the right foods, and I haven't been exercising.
What I'm doing is exactly what my post above states.... I'm taking in more calories than I'm burning. And, it's MY fault.

Like Lynn said, she was eating the calories that the "chart" said was ok, but.. her activity level had dropped. Wasn't her fault, just the way it was. When that happens, you have to lower your "intake" to match, or be less than, your "output", or you'll gain weight.

 

[Willie-T]

Most often? That is a very untrue statement!
Medical issues and heredity may be a contributing factor but certainly not the main cause. Alot of the time, the chemical imbalance comes from eating nutrient empty foods day in and day out AND, the majority of people eat when their body just wants water! How many people on meds eat only whole foods? The meds were designed to help a body whose diet is only whole foods and proper water intake.. Did you know that? The main cause of obesity is bad food,too much food, not enough water, and no to little exercise.

There is also an epidemic of over medicated people in the USA too! They are overly medicated because their diet is very bad. Medication is designed to be ingested by a body that is eating whole foods . This is the doctors fault for not educating their patients but it is also the fault of the patient for not educating themselves to have a healthier body with less weight to carry around!!

AMEN! To every word you said.

 

[Tresnouveau_ne]

You can buy seeds, and put in a garden (Remember that God started us out that way) for almost no money.

And our diets should be 60 to 80% leafy green vegetables, anyway.

The lie that good food cost more is simply not true! It is an excuse though. It would be interesting to look in the fridge and cabinets by those who are opposing your view Willie!

 

[coby]

And who campaigns for all that propaganda? Fat people. The truth is often hard to swallow (no pun intended), but most of us are fat, simply because we can't push away from the table.

No a slim professor found out about the virus because he wanted to help them. He spent years investigating it.
My aunt was quite big. She almost ate nothing, a bit of salad, tiny very tiny meals. I'm slim and I ate 3 times as much. She staid with us for a while. She had kidney problems.

I saw that professor once on discovery channel.

Is obesity contagious? Virus that causes same symptoms as common cold is linked to weight gain | Daily Mail Online

Btw nice way to cheer someone up who has suicidal thoughts and is depressed NOT.

The woman in our church with morbid obesitas ate way too much. But it was just a symptom of something else. When God healed her emotionally within a year she lost all that weight. She said she first ate 5 hamburgers at the MacDonalds but now a kid's meal is too much.

And other than that: Who cares about how big someone is?
He looks great btw:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KNPTREz6FvE

 

[blue_ladybug]

The lie that good food cost more is simply not true! It is an excuse though. It would be interesting to look in the fridge and cabinets by those who are opposing your view Willie!

Good food DOES cost ALOT more, than junk food does. Especially if you frequent health food stores. And not ALL people are overly-medicated. Disabilities are fairly common these days, or haven't you noticed? Guess what? I have several disabilities but I'm on meds for only one of them. All my life I've exercised, eaten properly, but when I got put on my latest seizure med back in 1997, I gained twice my body weight. I was around 120 pounds, and at my heaviest, was 256 pounds. I've lost most of that excess weight now, so don't try telling people like me and Lynn that we are over-medicated, or are overweight because we eat too much. It simply is not true.

 

[Depleted]

You can buy seeds, and put in a garden (Remember that God started us out that way) for almost no money.

And our diets should be 60 to 80% leafy green vegetables, anyway.

Says the guy in Florida with, apparently, lots of land. Here's reality in Philly.

[video=youtube;EU_JaAdB-HE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU_JaAdB-HE[/video]

(You only need to see the first 30 seconds to see my "huge" yard.)

Tell me how I grow enough to last a year? I'm glad if we have tomatoes for Christmas. My yard is about 2/5ths the length of my house and it is the width of my house, so not much space for storing, and, guess what cost money? Ways to store produce.

Go ahead. Next excuse? Cuz, honestly, this sounds a lot like "I can do it, so you can."

(If nothing else, you hear the voice behind my words. lol)

 

[Tresnouveau_ne]

Good food DOES cost ALOT more, than junk food does. Especially if you frequent health food stores. And not ALL people are overly-medicated. Disabilities are fairly common these days, or haven't you noticed? Guess what? I have several disabilities but I'm on meds for only one of them. All my life I've exercised, eaten properly, but when I got put on my latest seizure med back in 1997, I gained twice my body weight. I was around 120 pounds, and at my heaviest, was 256 pounds. I've lost most of that excess weight now, so don't try telling people like me and Lynn that we are over-medicated, or are overweight because we eat too much. It simply is not true.

I am so sorry but you are very wrong about wholesome food costing more. In the first place,one doesnt have to go to a special store to buy good food! Shopping for basic food groups is actually quite inexpensive. Its all the extra stuff people put in their shopping carts that adds to the expense.

Btw: Im very new here. Ill just let you know upfront that I was trying to be factual according to my studies. I dont appreciate you accusing me of something I have not done! I didnt say you or lynn was over medicated. I didnt say you eat too much either.
Go back and read what I wrote. I do know what I am talking about. I know ALOT about nutrition and I am knowledgeable on the effects of meds in various lifestyles ie whole foods vs junk.There are many contributing factors as to why people are fat . Poor diet, ingesting too much food, low water intake, and little to no exercise are LEADING CAUSES of obesity in the USA and anywhere for that matter.
Do the research yourself if care to know the real truth. In the future try not to get defensive. Ill present facts and it isnt catered to you or anyone else. Thanks

 

[Depleted]

The lie that good food cost more is simply not true! It is an excuse though. It would be interesting to look in the fridge and cabinets by those who are opposing your view Willie!

You don't shop?

I love the attitude. (because hey, "that's not true" suddenly makes me realize my grave error.) What would you like to know? I've been that poor.

Cabinets? besides dishes? Let's see, we had whole wheat flour, a loaf of bread, canned tuna, applesauce, canola oil, canned tomatoes, spices, and of course the sales on pasta that week.

Fridge? Half and half, soda, (oh, Lord, can I ever be forgiven for one nonessential?), a couple of pitchers of Brita filtered water, a quart of milk, spray butter, eggs, a homemade container of dressing, potatoes, and carrots. Do onions and garlic count as cabinet or fridge, because we had them too.

The freezer? Every month I'd take the bus up to the center of our city because there's an indoor market that sells meat from Lancaster County. (Amish farmers selling meat), and I'd buy three pounds of ground turkey, three pounds of chicken thighs, and a pound of shredded cheese. Besides that, I also bought frozen veggies (at the supermarket.) That was it. All the meat for a month.

We got $256 worth of food stamps. (Admittedly paper products, soap, detergent, and the like aren't paid for by food stamps. Food only for food stamps, which was tough because we are vitamin and supplement kinds of people, hubby was on chemo, and could have used the milk thistle, but we couldn't afford it.) Can you do better, oh ye, who knows all and judges from your high horse?

 

[Depleted]

I am so sorry but you are very wrong about wholesome food costing more. In the first place,one doesnt have to go to a special store to buy good food! Shopping for basic food groups is actually quite inexpensive. Its all the extra stuff people put in their shopping carts that adds to the expense.

Btw: Im very new here. Ill just let you know upfront that I was trying to be factual according to my studies. I dont appreciate you accusing me of something I have not done! I didnt say you or lynn was over medicated. I didnt say you eat too much either.
Go back and read what I wrote. I do know what I am talking about. I know ALOT about nutrition and I am knowledgeable on the effects of meds in various lifestyles ie whole foods vs junk.There are many contributing factors as to why people are fat . Poor diet, ingesting too much food, low water intake, and little to no exercise are LEADING CAUSES of obesity in the USA and anywhere for that matter.
Do the research yourself if care to know the real truth. In the future try not to get defensive. Ill present facts and it isnt catered to you or anyone else. Thanks

Let me quote your "factual" "studies" along with you're "non-accusatory" statement about a few of us already, (because, hey! Nothing says humble and kind like calling us liars.)

The lie that good food cost more is simply not true! It is an excuse though. It would be interesting to look in the fridge and cabinets by those who are opposing your view Willie!

Yeah? Okay? So I've done more studying than you. (My "study" method. Dire need when I was living on $256 a month to pay for food. Desperation is a great teacher. )

Who is accusing whom of what?

Oh wait. Now to make this more kind like you did."Thanks."

 

[coby]

There was someone asking for help here, who needed some friends because he felt lonely, but I guess he left.