An Often Overlooked Sign of the Last Days

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we are not talking about that now are we,, We are talking about who paul reached..

Did Nebuchadnezzar reach the whole world. Fancy you did not respond to that.
 
Did Paul's Gospel reach the whole world?

Did Jesus say when the gospel of the kingdom is preached to all the world?

Is "all the world" the same or different in these passages?

we are not talking about that now are we,, We are talking about who paul reached..

Did Nebuchadnezzar reach the whole world. Fancy you did not respond to that.
 
Nor is it even certain that the word preached in Colossians 1:23 is correctly translated as English past tense. It is Greek aorist which is indefinite tense, but has, rightly or wrongly, historically been translated as past tense. Thus Paul probably said that the gospel was being proclaimed to every creature under heaven, not that it already had been proclaimed. Why would he keep working if it had already been proclaimed to every creature. Nonsensical...

Funny, I just looked at several translations and they are all past tense. So do you know more than all of these other translators? You people kill me... you don't like what something says so you just change it. PATHETIC!
 
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Monsanto corporation that they are spreading around slogan that they are feeding the world, and creating wonders like gmo crops and animals and which all of their products are abominations that lead everything into desolation. That if any countries doesn't accept this mark of their, will not be able to buy or sell with other countries that are in their new world order trade agreement, and which to buy or sell means to trade, and if you are not allowed to trade means that you have been embargo, banned and which this corporation has been doing it for years. And so who dare to go against this beast.
 
He did rule the whole world. Who was mightier than he at the time?

so he ruled the america's?, China and the area we call russia north and south poles? How did his armies get there? today? How about australia? North ans south poles? Tell me, How did his armies get there?
 
Funny, I just looked at several translations and they are all past tense. So do you know more than all of these other translators? You people kill me... you don't like what something says so you just change it. PATHETIC!

Thats the problem, You look at an english transations. the english does not have a word to interpret the Aorist tense. Aorist is not past tense..
 
Did Paul's Gospel reach the whole world?
Not yet, and it is not pauls gospel it is jesus gospel. ie gods.. Please give credit where credit is due
Did Jesus say when the gospel of the kingdom is preached to all the world?

At the end of the age, we are not there yet, but we are almost I do believe
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Is "all the world" the same or different in these passages?

As with all scripture. interpret it in context. and use some common sense..
 
Remember, this is Scripture given by God not Paul. The whole world means the whole world. Every creature under heaven means every creature under heaven. All nations means all nations. No private interpretation needed.
 
Funny, I just looked at several translations and they are all past tense. So do you know more than all of these other translators? You people kill me... you don't like what something says so you just change it. PATHETIC!

Well if you do a little more research about what I said, you'll find that what I'm saying is true. Aorist is indefinite, and there is no exact English equivalent. Greek scholars are not universally agreed upon how it should be translated. Many problem passages in scripture that seem to not make any sense become perfectly clear when the aorist is translated into English present instead of past.
 
Then why doesn't every other bible translator agree with you?

again, there is no english word to translate the aorist verb.. Both past tense, and aorist greek verbs have been translated in past tense.. A past tense greek word is not equal to an aorist greek word. an aorist has more meaning.

Past means just that, Past

Aorist means something that started in the past and continues. ie it is more than just past

You have no argument, so stop.


The interpretors did the best they could.. They did not have an english equivilent.. Thats why there is no perfect english text.

Please lets not make the a KJV argument, those are old. and this is not the place we have enough of those threads.
 
The inspired Scripture calls it Paul's gospel not me.

End of the age? Private interpretation again...

Please give us your interpretation of "every creature under heaven."


Not yet, and it is not pauls gospel it is jesus gospel. ie gods.. Please give credit where credit is due


At the end of the age, we are not there yet, but we are almost I do believe
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As with all scripture. interpret it in context. and use some common sense..
 
God is not troubled with the English language. He can preserve exactly what He said using English words.

again, there is no english word to translate the aorist verb.. Both past tense, and aorist greek verbs have been translated in past tense.. A past tense greek word is not equal to an aorist greek word. an aorist has more meaning.

Past means just that, Past

Aorist means something that started in the past and continues. ie it is more than just past

You have no argument, so stop.


The interpretors did the best they could.. They did not have an english equivilent.. Thats why there is no perfect english text.

Please lets not make the a KJV argument, those are old. and this is not the place we have enough of those threads.
 
The inspired Scripture calls it Paul's gospel not me.

End of the age? Private interpretation again...

Please give us your interpretation of "every creature under heaven."

so paul made up the gospel. and it was about him?

At the end of the age, what do you think jesus was talking about in Matt 24. The disciples asked, when will these things *the destruction of the temple) be, and the signs of the end of the age, and your return..

No private interpretation. just making the word say what it says.
 
God is not troubled with the English language. He can preserve exactly what He said using English words.

well past tense does not equal aorist tense.. Never has, never will..

But thats ok. God did preserve his word. Thats how we know the word is aorist greek, not past..
 
Actually the "Lamb of God" is a literal name given to the Lord Jesus Christ. I agree, not all the Bible is literal, but Scripture will let us know when symbolism is used.

As the book of Revelation did, right in the opening of the book.... YET, many of us swear every word is literal. LOL
 
Well if you do a little more research about what I said, you'll find that what I'm saying is true. Aorist is indefinite, and there is no exact English equivalent. Greek scholars are not universally agreed upon how it should be translated. Many problem passages in scripture that seem to not make any sense become perfectly clear when the aorist is translated into English present instead of past.
If there is no exact English equivalent then why are you trying to make it present tense when you're going against practically every bible? I can tell you why... it doesn't fit your preconcieved ideas so you change it.
 
If there is no exact English equivalent then why are you trying to make it present tense when you're going against practically every bible? I can tell you why... it doesn't fit your preconcieved ideas so you change it.

And then there's the possibility that the past tense was chosen in those translations to fit preconceived theology.
 
The aorist can be a one time event in the past if used in the indicative or it can be used to show as a simple, collective whole.

For example: "God...made us alive together with Christ." Eph 2:5 = indicative - which means a one time event in the past

"He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Christ Jesus." Phil 1:6 = not indicative = which means it's 'Punctiliar' in this sense means 'viewed as a single, collective whole"..
2. Aorist Tense

The aorist tense is the Greek grammarian's term for a simple past tense. Unlike the other past tenses (imperfect and perfect), the aorist simply states the fact that an action has happened. It gives no information on how long it took, or whether the results are still in effect.

Aorist is an ideal tense to describe an action that happens at a particular point in time. This is why some grammar books describe it as "punctiliar." Aorist verbs describe the entire action as a single event.

This does not mean that aorist tense always describes actions which are over in an instant. John 2:20 says, "This temple was built (aorist) in forty-six years. Forty-six years is a big point in time!

When you find the aorist tense in the indicative mood, it routinely communicates two ideas: (1) past tense and (2) simple type of action.

When you encounter an aorist participle, it still describes a simple action, but it may not refer to action in the past. Most often, an aorist participle describes an action that takes place before the main verb of the sentence. [There are exceptions to this rule.]

When you see an aorist anywhere other than indicative or participle, there is no time frame involved.

You should focus exclusively on the type of action: simply the fact that an event happened, with no extra information about continuing action or completed action.

Aorist is the default tense, especially when a writer is describing the past. If in doubt, Greeks would use aorist. If you see any other tense, you should suspect that it was deliberately to make a point.