An Often Overlooked Sign of the Last Days
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So our Lord Jesus lied in Matt.7 when He showed He will tell those who taught Him in their streets and did many wonderful works in His name to get away from Him when He comes, because they worked iniquity?
Matt 7:20-25
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto Me, "Lord, Lord", shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father Which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?"
23 And then will I profess unto them, "I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity."
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of Mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
KJV
Notice that in Matt 7:19-23..Jesus said "I never knew you "...these people were not believers.....everyone when they see Jesus will call Him Lord.....because He is Lord.
John 10:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
Jesus did the "will of God"...and delivered us from this present evil world.
Galatians 1:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
It is God in us that gives us the will and the ability to do His will.
Philippians 2:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.
The Will of the Father is to believe on Jesus.
1 John 3:23-24 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.
The good works we do are from "being in Christ"..being lead by the Holy Spirit. Notice God has prepared them for us. we walk them out as we life our lives dependent on Him.
Ephesians 2:8-10 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; [SUP]9 [/SUP] not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.
John 10:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
Jesus did the "will of God"...and delivered us from this present evil world.
Galatians 1:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
It is God in us that gives us the will and the ability to do His will.
Philippians 2:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.
The Will of the Father is to believe on Jesus.
1 John 3:23-24 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.
The good works we do are from "being in Christ"..being lead by the Holy Spirit. Notice God has prepared them for us. we walk them out as we life our lives dependent on Him.
Ephesians 2:8-10 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; [SUP]9 [/SUP] not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.
But they obviously think that they were believers for they will say 'Lord, Lord'. They may even think they are spiritual and follow the "spirit", not realizing that they have been deceived by false teachers and doctrine to follow their own spirit instead of Christ's spirit.
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Complete_In_Him
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I don't believe there are two gospels. There is one gospel for today in the ministry of reconciliation, I get that this truth offends your doctrines. You should try to believe the gospel of your salvation, which is the testimony of God in this dispensation. God is doing something different today, you don't have to accept it or believe it, but that doesn't change the truth.
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+3&version=KJV
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eternally-gratefull
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eternally-gratefull
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yeah there will be, and they will tell jesus of all their good works, their wonderful righteousness And how much they did in Jesus name
And jesus will say, depart from me, for I NEVER KNEW YOU..
Now remeber, Hypergracers (as you call them) would never claim works, they have non to offer, we all love our sin..
You proclaim two gospels: one for the Jews, one for the gentiles. Heresy. Cursed.
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eternally-gratefull
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there has always been one gospel.
In this dispensation, the thing which changed is we do not relate to God through law. We relate with God through Grace.. But the law never saved anyone, we were always saved by grace.
That has been my point (without saying it) the whole time. The gospel of the kingdom is the good news that the kingdom to Israel will be restored. This will happen during the tribulation through the 144,000 and 2 witnesses.
We can not equate the gospel of Grace to the gospel of the Kingdom. You and I both get that. Thanks for joining the conversation, but most on here do not believe in Dispensational teaching.
We can not equate the gospel of Grace to the gospel of the Kingdom. You and I both get that. Thanks for joining the conversation, but most on here do not believe in Dispensational teaching.
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eternally-gratefull
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those 144000 and two witnesses
They will be saved by grace alone, and will teach salvation by grace alone.
Grace has always trumped law.
The gospel we believe in now was kept hid in mystery form. It was not fully revealed or understood unto after the resurrection of Christ.
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eternally-gratefull
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Christ crucified Your right.
But they were still saved by grace,
Not one person was ever saved by following any law. Period.
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eternally-gratefull
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People have to remember, Paul told peter as a young child. he had enough knowledge in scripture to be saved, Jesus had not yet died when Timothy was a child..
The reason the idea that they weren't believers to begin with doesn't work, is because by their prophesying in His Name, casting out devils in His Name, and doing many wonderful works in His Name. Can't do that if you don't... believe.
I'm not looking for a Greek lesson, I just want to know how a Greek speaker understood that verse
So are matters concerning end times something that critical that we call a curse if it differs from ours?
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Complete_In_Him
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No I don't. Today, there is one gospel by which we, "all men", are called. And, when we rightly believe and understand this, our doctrines align with knowledge of the truth. What I see, is the distinctions God has placed in His word. What you should accuse me of is proclaiming there are two programs. Which there are, and multiple ministries, which have various calls by the Gospel of God.
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eternally-gratefull
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Your not looking for any lesson.. If you will not do the work yourself. you do not want to know.
I am not going to play games by looking it up for you. when you will not believe me in the first place..
You have a reputation..
The facts are. No Greek speaking person would understand an aorist tense verb to mean only a past action.. PERiOD..
If you want to know why, Then do the work. find out what aorist means, Then and ONLY then will you know what a freek speaking person would understand.
It is not hard..
MAD teaches that Christ proclaimed the gospel of the kingdom to those living under the old covenant, and then sent Paul to proclaim a different gospel (gospel of grace, I guess they call it) to the gentiles. Two distinct gospels. What it teaches in regards to eschatology, I'm like Ranger Doug: I don't know and I don't have to know.