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So your saying the apostle John is a liar 
Ah, So your dad (God) stopped being your dad? Says who?
I was a prodigal son myself for 5 years. I did not live like the word. My Conscience and the HS would not allow e, Yes I commited some bad sins, But I was nothing like my presaved self. And it was the chastening of God that brought me back.
Like the father, when I did return, he did not make me do some ritual or beg forgiveness, He made a meal on my behalf.
Salvation is salvation, If it can be lost, IT IS NOT SALVATION.
Sanctification is being set apart in our daily lives.
A baby is less set apart (sanctified) than a mature believer (adult).
But both are still saved.
Ah, So your dad (God) stopped being your dad? Says who?
I was a prodigal son myself for 5 years. I did not live like the word. My Conscience and the HS would not allow e, Yes I commited some bad sins, But I was nothing like my presaved self. And it was the chastening of God that brought me back.
Like the father, when I did return, he did not make me do some ritual or beg forgiveness, He made a meal on my behalf.
Salvation is salvation, If it can be lost, IT IS NOT SALVATION.
Sanctification is being set apart in our daily lives.
A baby is less set apart (sanctified) than a mature believer (adult).
But both are still saved.
Was the prodigal son really lost? Did what he do change is inheritance? Did it change how his father loved him. Did his father say serves yourself right or did he run and welcome him overflowing with love? Lets all pray for a deep intimate relationship with the father. Thats who he is. Not a distant finger pointing father but one of love and mercy and compassion. He desires to ve relational with us before anything else.. Everytime we sin we are cut off from heaven is what this post portrays... We are dead to sin but alive to God in christ..
Imagine if God was not like us humans in our thinking and ways? Can we really trust what He says?..or should we rely on ourselves to "help" God out in His poor attempt of Jesus's sacrifice only by grace through faith to obtain eternal salvation? Is Jesus' blood enough?
Isaiah 55:8-9 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.
Numbers 23:19 (NASB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] "God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
I for one choose to believe in what God, our loving, good Father did for us in offering His Son....our Lord Jesus to obtain for us an eternal salvation based completely on Jesus' finished work on our behalf.
Jesus' blood and sacrifice is enough! We will let His life in us bear His fruit and thus live godly lives in this present world.
We are called "believers" for a reason...selah
Isaiah 55:8-9 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.
Numbers 23:19 (NASB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] "God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
I for one choose to believe in what God, our loving, good Father did for us in offering His Son....our Lord Jesus to obtain for us an eternal salvation based completely on Jesus' finished work on our behalf.
Jesus' blood and sacrifice is enough! We will let His life in us bear His fruit and thus live godly lives in this present world.
We are called "believers" for a reason...selah
Hey everyone we are brothers and sisters. Lets all love each other and if we have to agree to disagree... We are all equal. It grieves the holy spirit when we dont get on. Obviously we are all going to have different opinions. If we say error in what someon says lets pray for them. Id also like to say that if I person is filled with the holy spirit and then sins.. Does the holy spirit leave?!........... love you all xxxx
What you said has absolutely no bearing on the fact salvation is a gift.
Yes, we can mistreat God's gift - and we do when we sin - but that doesn't negate what it is.
Using your analogy, I can give someone a truck, and they can either treat it well and maintain it, or they can use it to go mud-dogging every weekend. It doesn't change the fact that it was, and remains, a gift.
Yes, we can mistreat God's gift - and we do when we sin - but that doesn't negate what it is.
Using your analogy, I can give someone a truck, and they can either treat it well and maintain it, or they can use it to go mud-dogging every weekend. It doesn't change the fact that it was, and remains, a gift.
You cannot put James at conflict with Paul. Salvation is the work of grace. The faith we receive through grace is of God. We are new creatures in Christ created unto good works.
Salvation is never about us but always about Christ. Everything apart from Christ is dead. Live is only in Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Salvation is never about us but always about Christ. Everything apart from Christ is dead. Live is only in Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger