Is the Book of Mormon legit?

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kaylagrl

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allaboutlove said:
I have to swear an oath to be in law enforcement, to up hold the law protect the innocent all that good stuff. So are all cops bad or part of a cult because they swear an oath...... As far as the book you are talking about I've never read it but again one book does not reflect on the whole organization and I'm not defending masonary just as o wasn't defending mormonism I'm defending the good christian people who may belong to those organizations.
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Quote "I'm not defending masonary"

Yes,yes you are and you are wrong. Christians should not be Masons,period. The oaths they are swearing are wrong,to call someone "worshipful master" is wrong. It doesn't matter what you believe,it matters what God says about it. A cop is giving a promise to uphold the law. They are not pledging themselves to a "worshipful master" they are promising to obey the law of the land,which the Bible tells you to do. You can twist it anyway to wish, its wrong to be a Mason and a Christian should not take part in it. The Bible backs up what Im saying.


Quote "I'm defending the good christian people who may belong to those organizations."

 Thats the point,Christian people should not want to belong to anything that is against what the Bible teaches. Mormons reject the Trinity. Their views about the afterlife are not taught in Scripture.They teach Jesus was a created being and that salvation is based on your works. That is why they go door to door. And they hold the Book of Mormon is Scripture on par with the Bible. They believe Jesus appeared in North America, no where does the Bible teach this. On top of that is Smith and his teaching,believing he was given a special revelation. If one gives a brief read of Joseph Smiths beliefs they would know that Mormonism is a cult. Good Christian people do not want to be a part of false teachings, teachings against the truth of the Bible. Anyone who is a Mormon is in a cult and they should not be defended by Christians who know better. Christians should be trying to show them the truth of Gods Word and praying that their eyes will be opened and they will leave the cult of Mormonism.
 
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allaboutlove

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Idk where you get your information but the Mormons I know do belive in the trinity, nor have I ever heard them talk of Jesus as a created being... Works are importantant to them as it should be the bible says faith without works is dead, but again I've never known any to base there salvation in it.... Far as your worshipful Master thing idk much about masons besides from my grandfather an a few other sources but theyve never called anyone worshipful master..... I'm not twisting anything I just know how to think for myself and not follow common stereotypes about people or organizations.
 
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Elijah19

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No, that definition exempts Christianity as the "Parent Religion".
 
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allaboutlove

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Except that christianity isn't the parent religion its basically an off shoot of judaisam.. By the definition you presented christianity would be nothing more than a cult offshoot of judasim.
 
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kaylagrl

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allaboutlove said:
Idk where you get your information but the Mormons I know do belive in the trinity, nor have I ever heard them talk of Jesus as a created being... Works are importantant to them as it should be the bible says faith without works is dead, but again I've never known any to base there salvation in it.... Far as your worshipful Master thing idk much about masons besides from my grandfather an a few other sources but theyve never called anyone worshipful master..... I'm not twisting anything I just know how to think for myself and not follow common stereotypes about people or organizations.
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Yes,works are important but they do not save us. No matter how many doors they knock on it will not save them. We are not saved by works.


Quote "but theyve never called anyone worshipful master."

If they haven't they weren't true Masons. Worshipful Master is the senior officer of a Masonic Lodge.


Quote " I just know how to think for myself "

 As Christians we are to do what the Bible tells us to do. The Bible warns us against false doctrines. Either you follow the Bible or you don't.
 
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Chuckt

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allaboutlove said:
Except that christianity isn't the parent religion its basically an off shoot of judaisam.. By the definition you presented christianity would be nothing more than a cult offshoot of judasim.
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I don't see Judaism as the parent religion because they had blinders on their eyes, God punished them twice because the Jews went into captivity twice and God cut off the natural branches and grafted the gentiles in. It was either plan A or plan B with God but God always had a plan on saving the gentiles. Let me clarify, according to Ephesians 2:20, the church is built on the apostles and prophets with Jesus Christ being the head cornerstone. Right now we're following some of the examples the Jews left but we're in charge during this dispensation until the church is raptured and the Holy Spirit then goes back to the Jews for plan A.
 
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Ultimatum77

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After all of the posts about why you can't be a Christian and a mormon/mason including all the evidence put forth by fellow believers. If you still believe you can be a mormon/mason and a Christian this is very sad...Those "so-called believers" from mason/mormonism are deceived as the main agents of both do not tell the truth to the lower underlings/parishioners.
The evidence is so blatant about how they don't believe in the Trinity and mock God by saying Jesus is satan's spirit brother....that is straight from New Age dualism doctrine (concept of light/dark good/evil but they are the same central energy/power.) If you still want to defend them go ahead but I'm done here....all the evidence has been put forth to denounce both as occultic religions/belief systems.

This is the last post for me on this.....

A testimony of an ex-mormon:

Why I Left Mormonism
 
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didymos

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allaboutlove said:
Except that christianity isn't the parent religion its basically an off shoot of judaisam.. By the definition you presented christianity would be nothing more than a cult offshoot of judasim.
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Talking about parents: Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6) Christianity isn't dependent on judaism, I don't NEED it to be a christian, all I need is Christ.
 
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allaboutlove

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Agreed I wasn't saying Christianity was dependent on Judaism but they are connected and the way they are connected would make christianity a cult according to a definition given earlier. Not saying Christianity is a cult simply pointing out a flaw in the definition given.
 
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Elijah19

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Remember that the definition also defines Cult as a "New Religious Movement". This would mean it must incorperate New-Age ideals to be considered a Cult. Though Christianity may in fact be descended from Judaism as it's predecessor (and was often considered a Cult by ancient Romans for this reason), it incorporates no elements of New Age and, unlike Mormonism, exists to the exclusion of all other similar religious bodies (i.e. Judaism, Islam, Mormonism). Furthermore, it doesn't contradict it's source like the Book of Mormon does on several accounts.
 
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Sidney

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Here is your answer...

Galatians 1:8 says this: "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!" (NIV)

I would suggest reading Galatians 1:6-9
Joseph Smith, as we all know, was approached by an angel who basically gave him the book of Mormon... and what does the Holy Bible says about this? Well, that angel is damned. And Joseph Smith is damned, too, for being a false profit. There is no other gospel. End of story :)
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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Most of the responses I've seen here are based on nothing more than fear derived from ignorance.
My current opinion is that Mormons are less casual about their faith than most self-professed Christians.

Find out for yourself if the Book of Mormon is true.
Let me know what you find.
 
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Tintin

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PeacefulWarrior said:
Most of the responses I've seen here are based on nothing more than fear derived from ignorance.
My current opinion is that Mormons are less casual about their faith than most self-professed Christians.

Find out for yourself if the Book of Mormon is true.
Let me know what you find.
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Who cares if Mormons are less casual about their faith? It doesn't mean that Mormonism is God's truth!
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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laoshanlung said:
Wondering what you guys think about this. I have a few Mormon acquaintances that I dearly love, and I'm just curious about the legitimacy of the actual Book that they incorporate into their walks with God.
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PeacefulWarrior said:
Most of the responses I've seen here are based on nothing more than fear derived from ignorance.
My current opinion is that Mormons are less casual about their faith than most self-professed Christians.

Find out for yourself if the Book of Mormon is true.
Let me know what you find.
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Tintin said:
Who cares if Mormons are less casual about their faith? It doesn't mean that Mormonism is God's truth!
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Not sure why I never got a notification of reply.

You're right--an individual's level of concern with their faith does not make that faith inherently true.

Who cares? I do--and a lot of other folks should too!
What did Jesus say about a 'casual faith' to the Laodiceans?

Who cares if Mormons are more concerned with their faith than most self-proclaimed Christians?
Pro 12:24; 13:4, Gal 6:9, 1 Cor 15:58, 2 Tim 2:15

Ecclesiastes 9:10 (AMP)

Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might; for there is no activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol (the nether world, the place of the dead) where you are going.
 
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Well...the story of Joseph Smith is pretty preposterous. And that's sort of just the tip of the iceberg.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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Sirk said:
Well...the story of Joseph Smith is pretty preposterous. And that's sort of just the tip of the iceberg.
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Some would say the same of the story of Jesus Christ, no?
 
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PeacefulWarrior said:
Some would say the same of the story of Jesus Christ, no?
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Except there is eyewitness testimony to the fact of Jesus. Joseph just expected everyone to take him at his word.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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Sirk said:
Except there is eyewitness testimony to the fact of Jesus. Joseph just expected everyone to take him at his word.
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Really? I thought Smith had eyewitnesses also. I don't know for certain (I'm not Mormon and I wasn't there).
 
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pwrnJC

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PeacefulWarrior...uh, you just told us that you don't know for certain and that you weren't there.....so the BIG question is: "Why continue this Book of Mormon forum? Jesus is not getting the glory for it....and it has run over the cliff and crashed. Move on and see what the BIBLE, the book of all books, has to say to you, personally.
 
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