An Apology

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I'm with Blain on this one. I understand how some hear sarcasm and screw you God, but I hear pain and suffering that has tainted a soul and mind. Haven't we all lashed out at God at some time? He's just doing it here. And while we must watch for trolls, we must not become insensitive.

OP, you've got it backwards about the wealth thing. You don't receive to give, you give just to give, and understand that what you will receive in return will not be here but in 'heaven'. You can store up treasure here, or you can store up treasure there, but where your treasure is that's where your heart will be. And right now your heart is definitely here. Wanna hear what God says about that?

James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

John 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

John 12:25
Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.

2 Corinthians 10
That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

1 Corinthians 4
[SUP]"9 [/SUP]For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men. [SUP]10 [/SUP]We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honorable, but we are despised. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwelling place; [SUP]12 [/SUP]And labor, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: [SUP]13 [/SUP]Being defamed, we entreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the off scouring of all things unto this day. [SUP]14 [/SUP]I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you."

You don't want to be too comfy with this world. That 'crap' you think God is dumping on us - that's not from God. That's the world rejecting us because we believe in God. We're like a drop of water in a bottle of oil here - the oil can't outright destroy that drop of water, but it's going to do everything it can to expel it. Think about it - satan is only going to attack the people he sees as a threat. And satan is the ruler of this world. So when the world's fame and fortune seems to be passing you by, when the world's fame and fortune seem to be against you, smile and say you wouldn't have it any other way. Because by them you know satan feels you're a threat to him.

And then, decide if you're going to be swayed, or if you're going to put on your armor and become that threat satan fears you will be?

There's enough pain from this child to ooze it onto others. I do see the pain. What gets my goat is he is an unrepenting leper at the gates of the City of God. Everyone tells him to come in and get the cure and the joy, but all he does is demand The Cure meet him there and fix him his way. His way is to add more blotches of leprosy to himself so he can pass a little onto others. And he's demanding God and everyone agree to this "brilliant" plan.

Also, the crap I'm getting dumped with is from God! I refuse to let God off the hook for any of it. He is in complete control, including, yet not limited to, the rapes, the broken bones, the cancer, the HepC, the stock market crashes and rises, the physical and emotional pain, albeit for the purpose of his spiritual cure. God uses the bad to give good to his people for his glory!

"All things" means ALL things.

"And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called to his purposes." (Rom. 8:28)

We know it!

 

[Depleted]

buddy, I hope you don't take a lot of the examples on this site as examples of Christ or His word. I hope and pray you don't let all the reminders of things you have done wrong in the past, no matter how many they were condemn you and chase you away from repentance that you have expressed 2 times in this thread. The first coming from an emotional place of frustration and hurt, the second showed that you even recognized the fault in your first apology. All the people condemning you are in error themselves forgetting all God has forgiven them for. Christians are actually taught to forgive freely 77 times in a day if the person says I repent, is the example given by the Lord Jesus. there are some poor examples of Christian behavior in this thread, I'm glad you decided to stay and fellowship. and I hope you don't Judge all Christians on this site by the examples you get on a thread like this. Don't let them chase you away, but find some people who will actually give the forgiveness they required at their very worst. oddly enough, it will benefit you to pray and forgive all of the nonsense they have shown, ask the Lord to forgive them also.

Truthfully it doesn't matter what you did yesterday, I hope you learn from this and don't write from emotion and frustration anymore, and again I would say regarding success " commit your plans to the Lord and they will succeed." delight yourself in Him and He will give you the desires of your heart". success in many areas is freely given when your heart is about seeking Him and knowing Him more as you go along in Life. I believe you have seen the error in your thoughts i hope you can discern the error in all the other peoples words also.

God bless you

Since you bulked at how everyone else acted, keep up with this child. He's not done. He posts things like this about once a week. So keep up.

And then maybe you'll catch on with the junk about blaming it on the believers inability to forgive. God enables me to forgive 7 X 70, except to forgive, the person being forgiven needs to repent. This one hasn't yet, even in this post.

I do not accept his insults on God and us as repenting, nor will I let you lay blame on the ones who are seeing that. I challenge you to keep up with this kid's posts and see where blame belongs! More importantly, what forgiveness is really about. Your response wasn't any more pious than his post. Just more subtle. It's not the wrapping paper. It's the contents.

 

[Depleted]

Wow wow wow..... I cannot believe the way some of you have attacked on here, Just wow. So what if he has messed around on here before... Forgive him.. and so what if he is messing around now, love him... Pray for him. I would encourage you all to read Ephesians 4:29 over and over.. In love xxx

I will forgive him... when it is time to. Pardon me for not forgiving my rapists while they rape me! (Sarcasm. Not really asking to be forgiven there either.) He's still raping people on this site, and anyone who stumbles on his rants through a search engine. Maybe when he's done the sin we can talk about forgiveness -- 'kay?

 

[Depleted]

(I'm wondering if Chanch and jason have met many nonbelievers. I can't help but think, in my family, if happiness/blessedness is riches, than the nonbelievers have been blessed beyond even Funriders/Alexander's wildest dreams. They have great jobs they love, wonderful families, houses big enough for 2-15 families to comfortably live in, and even the dogs and pool. God HAS blessed them, and yet they don't want to know him.)

 

[kaylagrl]

buddy, I hope you don't take a lot of the examples on this site as examples of Christ or His word. I hope and pray you don't let all the reminders of things you have done wrong in the past, no matter how many they were condemn you and chase you away from repentance that you have expressed 2 times in this thread. The first coming from an emotional place of frustration and hurt, the second showed that you even recognized the fault in your first apology. All the people condemning you are in error themselves forgetting all God has forgiven them for. Christians are actually taught to forgive freely 77 times in a day if the person says I repent, is the example given by the Lord Jesus. there are some poor examples of Christian behavior in this thread, I'm glad you decided to stay and fellowship. and I hope you don't Judge all Christians on this site by the examples you get on a thread like this. Don't let them chase you away, but find some people who will actually give the forgiveness they required at their very worst. oddly enough, it will benefit you to pray and forgive all of the nonsense they have shown, ask the Lord to forgive them also.

Truthfully it doesn't matter what you did yesterday, I hope you learn from this and don't write from emotion and frustration anymore, and again I would say regarding success " commit your plans to the Lord and they will succeed." delight yourself in Him and He will give you the desires of your heart". success in many areas is freely given when your heart is about seeking Him and knowing Him more as you go along in Life. I believe you have seen the error in your thoughts i hope you can discern the error in all the other peoples words also.

God bless you

Quote "buddy, I hope you don't take a lot of the examples on this site as examples of Christ or His word. I hope and pray you don't let all the reminders of things you have done wrong in the past, no matter how many they were condemn you and chase you away from repentance that you have expressed 2 times in this thread."

I don't know what thread you read but there was no repentance in it. This person is posting under a new name.You're new,so please dont condemn the rest of us for rebuking this person. If he has hurts he wants to share,he'll get all the support he needs. But to mock God and saying "He craps on you" is 100% unacceptable. He's done this several times here,mocking God. And this is why he is receiving rebuke. Also he is mocking other posters. People have been more than patient with him,yet he keeps it up. If he wants to live like the world,go do it. He wont get Gods blessing. Im very tired of people acting like God is all love and mocking him has no consequences. It does and this person,who isn't even telling the truth about his age, is about to find that out.

 

[kaylagrl]

Creflo Dollar is a fool. Thankfully, I retain the wisdom to understand that.

It's a root of hurt...a sense of justice I was looking for...repair...restoration of the damage from the past. I have visualized that to be worldly wealth.

In any case, it cant happen. I will remain here, on the site, fellowshipping with other users and trying to be an encourager on the chat, but I will restrain all future posts on forums to ones on edification and respect of goodwill, and if needed, an opportunity to listen and be a friend.

False expectations. They can be damaging.

You have posted this all before. You cannot mock God and expect blessing. Can you,or would you open up about what failures you are talking about? What has put you in the place where you are so angry at God? It has to be more than not getting rich. If you dont want to get deeper,thats up to you. But you can't say "God craps on you" and expect us to let that go. God is Holy and in the OT you'd have died for such a comment. Its very serious,I want you to understand that. People here will want to tell you God is all love,but He is also holy and righteous. If you want to go deeper than "Im not rich so God crapped on me" Im willing to listen. If not,you'll soon understand what Im warning you,God will not be mocked.

 

[Utah]

Wow wow wow..... I cannot believe the way some of you have attacked on here, Just wow. So what if he has messed around on here before... Forgive him.. and so what if he is messing around now, love him... Pray for him. I would encourage you all to read Ephesians 4:29 over and over.. In love xxx

So in your eyes its alright for him to spit in God's face, mock the faith, mock people who have faith and its alright for him to troll this site, but its not alright for us to call him out. We're attempting to build this kid up, but sometimes tough love is necessary. In the meantime, I would encourage you to read Matthew 23. Jesus didn't always play nice.

 

[Utah]

buddy, I hope you don't take a lot of the examples on this site as examples of Christ or His word.

I don't play nice with narcissists like Alex and I won't sit idly by as you attempt to scorn wonderful brothers and sisters of Christ on this site. Perhaps you have a more gentle spirit of understanding than some, and if that's the case may we all rejoice for you, but remember this, other brethren have gifts equal to yours, and sometimes those gifts include sharing tough love when necessary, and that in no way discredits anyone's example of Christ and His Word. Got it?

 

[Blain]

You are absolutely right jasonj. Delight in the Lord. You will be blessed if your actions, lives are delight in the Lord.

On the other hand, if those who are not blessed, is their lives not delight in the Lord?

That depends on what you view as blessed. I have little money my body is trashed and I have not had an easy life to put it softly I really don't feel like going into details about that again lol.

I have never had much material things in this world, although I have had much more than a lot of people in other countries. But I am rich you see just not in money. I don't want to be rich to begin with, I have seen how money can corrupt even the purest of hearts and I don't need much anyways. But in all honesty I would much rather be very rich in love and in the heart of God than to be rich in this world by any means. All the money and the good things of this life could never compare to him, God may not have blessed me richly in this world but he has in his.

I am very blessed to have known pain and sadness sufferings of all kinds because something I have learned is one becomes strong through hardships not luxury or an easy life. In fact look at this scenario, two men meet each other for the first time one is a laborer for an employee he works and works he sweats his muscles are aching at the end of every day and thus his hands are rugged are tough, the other man has never really been though much he had an easy life not one without problems but he never had to worry about anything never had to work for anything his hands are soft and smooth.

The two give a handshake and a handshake can tell you a lot about a person, the worker has rough and rugged skin and has an iron grip while the other man well... let's just say it didn't feel to great lol. It's as if God created the handshake with a very deep message and that is the hardships and trials of life make you strong not an easy and labor free life.
Me personally I have always loved manual labor, in fact if i had a job where I did nothing but chop wood with an axe I would have the best job in the world in my eyes the way my muscles scream the drops of sweat the blisters on on my hands as scars to show how hard I worked... I only got to this activity once but I fell in love with it and I slept like a rock and felt amazing in the morning.

People often forget the benefit of good old manual labor

 

[Ultimatum77]

I agree with RickyZ there have been times when i'm frustrated with God and said some choice things....but I eventually repented usually in 1hr or so after I cooled down....Being angry with God is pointless and only further delays his promises/blessings in your life....

That being said if Alex is just posting this to troll this site....it's not funny, we are here to help, listen, and support people who need it and trolling like that is just wasting time and valuable resources to help those who are truly in need and are posting in other threads...

I hope your intentions are right Alex, if so disregard my statement above about trolling...your post sounded a little standoffish towards God. I've been there, it is hard as hell to hold onto God during continuous difficult times and when it seems like everyone else is getting blessed and you've been pushed to the curb so to speak...I'm still waiting for some things from God but the hardest thing is patience....Stay in the word and pray even if you don't read every day remember to pray it is essential and at least you know God is hearing your words and making your request known to God....Hold onto God!

 

[blue_ladybug]

When a person comes on here and proclaims to love God more than anything, then in the next breath says he would trade Jesus for a million dollars, then that person either is NOT a true christian or he's just trolling. In Funrider's case, he was trolling us. He wanted to do things HIS way, not GOD'S way. He wanted a gf, a cushy job, a mansion, millions of dollars, etc. But he wanted to do it his way, without God. I'm sorry but this OP sounds too much like Funrider. I smell a fishy odor. :/

 

[RickyZ]

There's enough pain from this child to ooze it onto others. I do see the pain. What gets my goat is he is an unrepenting leper at the gates of the City of God. Everyone tells him to come in and get the cure and the joy, but all he does is demand The Cure meet him there and fix him his way. His way is to add more blotches of leprosy to himself so he can pass a little onto others. And he's demanding God and everyone agree to this "brilliant" plan.

Also, the crap I'm getting dumped with is from God! I refuse to let God off the hook for any of it. He is in complete control, including, yet not limited to, the rapes, the broken bones, the cancer, the HepC, the stock market crashes and rises, the physical and emotional pain, albeit for the purpose of his spiritual cure. God uses the bad to give good to his people for his glory!

"All things" means ALL things.

"And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called to his purposes." (Rom. 8:28)

We know it!

I'm glad you can see that the crap can be used by God for His and your good... but it still isn't God crapping on you. There's this mistaken notion that God is in charge here, which is not true. The thing about God's sovereign will is that He generally chooses not to enforce it. God created creation, and He was in charge of it. God created man, and yielded His sovereignty to put man in charge of it. His deal with Adam was, I'll walk with you, talk with you, lend you an ear and give you advice, but what you say Adam, that’s what goes. You, Adam, are the authority. So Adam then gives that away to satan. God could have in His sovereign power taken it all back, but then that would put Him back in charge, and that was never His intent, His will. His intent/will was for man to have authority. So to restore what He intended/willed meant a man had to take authority back from satan. But who among us could do such a thing? Well, only God, coming to us as a man. So the Messiah comes and indeed takes back authority. But, He has yet to return to this world to enforce it. Until then, satan continues in his role as ruler of this world. And as this world's ruler, it is him not God who is dumping on you.

 

[JennaLeanne]

Ok so if someone is here trolling or tryna cause trouble and your aware of that then why even respond? Why not take his apology as genuine and respond with love wether it is genuine or not. In my experience ive learnt that pointing out errors is not what changes a person but love does... proverbs 25:21-22 is a great little nugget of wisdom xx

 

[Blain]

Ok so if someone is here trolling or tryna cause trouble and your aware of that then why even respond? Why not take his apology as genuine and respond with love wether it is genuine or not. In my experience ive learnt that pointing out errors is not what changes a person but love does... proverbs 25:21-22 is a great little nugget of wisdom xx

Well regardless if he was genuine or not I still tried to reach him and even though he hasn't been on in over twelve hours something seemed to spark in him when I messaged him

 

[blue_ladybug]

Ok so if someone is here trolling or tryna cause trouble and your aware of that then why even respond? Why not take his apology as genuine and respond with love wether it is genuine or not. In my experience ive learnt that pointing out errors is not what changes a person but love does... proverbs 25:21-22 is a great little nugget of wisdom xx

It's not an apology. It's the OP telling us, and I quote, "Jesus Christ cannot help you". Basically he's implying that we go through life on our own, WITHOUT Jesus helping us. Unless I'm missing something...

 

[AbigailZeke]

Ok so if someone is here trolling or tryna cause trouble and your aware of that then why even respond? Why not take his apology as genuine and respond with love wether it is genuine or not. In my experience ive learnt that pointing out errors is not what changes a person but love does... proverbs 25:21-22 is a great little nugget of wisdom xx

It's not an apology. It's the OP telling us, and I quote, "Jesus Christ cannot help you". Basically he's implying that we go through life on our own, WITHOUT Jesus helping us. Unless I'm missing something...

Blue is right.

He's apologizing because we did not meet his expectations of us to be rich and famous Christians? That is classic passive-aggressiveness, my friend. To take it as a genuine apology is like pretending to be stupid. It does you no good and it does not change him. It only lets him carry on with his foolish and ignorant ways. That is not love for us to not help set him free. He has to know the truth and the truth will set him free.

 

[kaylagrl]

When a person comes on here and proclaims to love God more than anything, then in the next breath says he would trade Jesus for a million dollars, then that person either is NOT a true christian or he's just trolling. In Funrider's case, he was trolling us. He wanted to do things HIS way, not GOD'S way. He wanted a gf, a cushy job, a mansion, millions of dollars, etc. But he wanted to do it his way, without God. I'm sorry but this OP sounds too much like Funrider. I smell a fishy odor. :/

No doubt,its him 100% He says the exact same thing. Not a doubt about it.

 

[kaylagrl]

Ok so if someone is here trolling or tryna cause trouble and your aware of that then why even respond? Why not take his apology as genuine and respond with love wether it is genuine or not. In my experience ive learnt that pointing out errors is not what changes a person but love does... proverbs 25:21-22 is a great little nugget of wisdom xx

God isn't all love. That is a false PC teaching. God is also judgement. You cannot mock God and not face the consequences of that. You need to have read his other posts,you'd understand where some of us is coming from.As Utah said,some people need tough love. God took the Israelites around the mountain,He gave them tough love. Someone has to tell him the truth.God is love,but He's also Holy. Im not about to let mocking God pass in the name of "love". If you love someone you tell them the truth.

 

[JennaLeanne]

Lets take a minute to think about what you have just said... "stupid and ignorant ways" Without Jesus we are all stupid and ignorant. Lets not point out peoples mistakes we are all full of them... If his apology isnt genuine then so what. Not anywhere in the bible does God ask us to defend him.. He does command us to love our neighbour as ourself xx

 

[AbigailZeke]

Lets take a minute to think about what you have just said... "stupid and ignorant ways" Without Jesus we are all stupid and ignorant. Lets not point out peoples mistakes we are all full of them... If his apology isnt genuine then so what. Not anywhere in the bible does God ask us to defend him.. He does command us to love our neighbour as ourself xx

Every person has his gift of exhortation. You do your loving, don't stop people from teaching him.