An Apology

Angela53510 · Mar 13, 2016

First, there are a few people on this thread, (not to name names) who are terribly naive. I don't see anywhere in the Bible where God tells us to be naive, especially when a troll comes mocking.

“Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves" Matt 10:16

With regards to the original OP, I was a bit shocked that anyone could write such vile garbage and get away with it. Well, fortunately he didn't. The OP has a total lack of understanding of what Jesus came to do. He came to "save us from our sins."

"Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ,4 who gave himself for our sins to deliver us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father" Gal 1:3-4

Finally, this lie from the pit of hell about Jesus being about getting money, here is a Word from Christ himself.

"And calling the crowd to him with his disciples, he said to them, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.35 For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel's will save it. For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?" Mark 8:34-36

I pray the OP will not forfeit his soul, at the rate he is going!

(What?? Not the BDF? You could have fooled me!)

Alexander_M642 · Mar 13, 2016

You all believe I am trolling. I am not.

To truthfully address it...all of this comes from hurt. Pain. Humiliation. Dissapointment. Rejection. Loss. Failure. Loneliness. Withdrawal. Struggle. Sadness. Sorrow.

...I dont know what to do to cope with it anymore. I dont know any other solution but either lashing out to find the truth, or trying to self-therapute myself through telling my perspective of the truth I have come to understand.

It hurts.
It all hurts.

...it hurts.

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kaylagrl said:

On my part I tried for patience. Not sure I got there. Pretty sure I didn't at least half the time, BUT I can guarantee I never hit "more than patient." To me patience is like riding a unicycle while juggling five balls, three chain saws, a book, and an apple and balancing a feather on my nose. I haven't even mastered "unicycle" yet.

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blue_ladybug said:

When a person comes on here and proclaims to love God more than anything, then in the next breath says he would trade Jesus for a million dollars, then that person either is NOT a true christian or he's just trolling. In Funrider's case, he was trolling us. He wanted to do things HIS way, not GOD'S way. He wanted a gf, a cushy job, a mansion, millions of dollars, etc. But he wanted to do it his way, without God. I'm sorry but this OP sounds too much like Funrider. I smell a fishy odor. :/

I may not know Jack about Jack, but I remember Funrider. This is he... or she.

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RickyZ said:

I'm glad you can see that the crap can be used by God for His and your good... but it still isn't God crapping on you. There's this mistaken notion that God is in charge here, which is not true. The thing about God's sovereign will is that He generally chooses not to enforce it. God created creation, and He was in charge of it. God created man, and yielded His sovereignty to put man in charge of it. His deal with Adam was, I'll walk with you, talk with you, lend you an ear and give you advice, but what you say Adam, that’s what goes. You, Adam, are the authority. So Adam then gives that away to satan. God could have in His sovereign power taken it all back, but then that would put Him back in charge, and that was never His intent, His will. His intent/will was for man to have authority. So to restore what He intended/willed meant a man had to take authority back from satan. But who among us could do such a thing? Well, only God, coming to us as a man. So the Messiah comes and indeed takes back authority. But, He has yet to return to this world to enforce it. Until then, satan continues in his role as ruler of this world. And as this world's ruler, it is him not God who is dumping on you.

That's not the God I know. The God I know is effectual, not ineffectual.

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JennaLeanne said:

Did you read his apology? It went something like this:
I'm sorry I called your ratty, flea-infested cat ugly. You are lucky to be so blind not to see how disgusting it is. I can see.

EXCEPT, he wasn't talking about a cat. He was talking about God. What's wrong with you that it doesn't offend you and why bust on people it does offend?

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JennaLeanne said:

While you're busy telling us to take minutes, how about you take the required time to read the OP? Obviously you only read the first part. That's his warm up pitch. ater he aims for the jugular of the batter. And then tries to hit the empire in the head.

You're pretending to be all saintly when you obviously didn't even read what's bugging us. Get real! No minutes for you until you take the minute to do what you should have done before launching on anyone else. Grounder and behind the plate.

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JennaLeanne said:

More likely than you teaching anything whatsoever!

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jasonj said:

you have the right to feel as you do, and I condemned no one, simply pointed to the fact forgiveness isn't conditional except upon the request to be forgiven and I stand by every word I have written in this thread with confidence and full assurance of Jesus Words. The word of God identifies Him as Love actually, sometimes tough Love and Love doesn't erase consequences. But really look at The teachings of Jesus and you will find bless those who insult you, forgive freely. if the Lord says "if your brother sins against you 7 times in a day and says I repent, forgive Him" or not 7 times but 77 times, or if its 7 times 70....ill go with His instruction over people who disregard His instruction. you say I'm condemning someone, really what I did was saw a group of "Christians" neglecting to forgive someone who did express repentance much better in His second apology, and also displayed a change in attitude. you are all saying well hes done this a lot before, so what, forgiveness isn't limited by what we have done in the past. I have been forgiven far too much, to refuse to forgive anyone who asks for forgiveness. I offered forgiveness after His 2nd apology wich I believed. My reaction to His first "apology" I stand by also as the right reaction from someone who is a follower of Jesus Christ and His teachings. do we administer the consequences when someone mocks us? or are we told to forgive someone who asks? I have no need to defend anything I have said here, it is commended By the Lords teachings. Blaine and a few others reacted in accordance to those teachings and are worthy of commendation.

I think you are confusing me condemning someone with me pointing out the lack of a good example in refusing to forgive the guy. yall are trying to limit and put future behavior on him because you have observed his past behavior, people can change in Christ, and I thank God for that. if he posts a similar message in the future and asks forgiveness, ill be right there to forgive him and offer prayer, and let him know that Christians forgive, its what we do.

I'm tired of a lot of things also but it doesn't really matter much, ill still do my best to follow Jesus even when I'm tired of what others do to represent him. its more about Jesus feelings on things than my own. God bless you

Well since I posted a question on BDF specifically about what you chose to do with other believers on this thread, feel free to answer my question. You sure seem so sure you alone are right, so maybe you're the one to instruct me.

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jasonj said:

Yeah, right. I understand a language form some country in Asia, just like I understand French. Sorry. I'm a monoglot.

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jasonj said:

well in response I didn't get past your first sentence, because I understand that the first apology, was pretty offensive to Christians. if I were you I would first read His posts in the thread, IF you find the need to say what you said about me attacking or condemning anyone. maybe you should get past a sentence or two and actually see whats being said that way you can be fully informed and have a good basis for your response. just a thought though, you are your own man

And offensive to God didn't bother you at all?

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jasonj said:

Easy to do just as long as you skip the last half, but, instead ask the troll to forgive those poor misfortunate maybe-believers who aren't you -- the poster child for Christianese.

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JennaLeanne said:

Pffft, it's lack of actually reading the full OP that makes you ... cocky enough to think your loy is working. Not caring doesn't equal tender-hearted.

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jasonj said:

Utah said:

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Utah said:

That's a whole lot of last words.

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Alexander_M642 said:

Here's the truth about lying. When you do it often, no one will ever believe you. I honestly don't believe this either.

kaylagrl · Mar 14, 2016

Alexander_M642 said:

Then share that. People here have been though many trails. People will help you in any way possible if you are sincere like you have been in this post. Share what you feel you are able. But don't mock God. You are putting yourself in danger when you do that,Im letting you know that the Bible says, God will not be mocked. You have posted under two names so you can see why that would make people suspect of your motives.

Secondly you have been clear about what you are wanting. People here,some of us,have been telling you are unhappy because your focus is on worldly things. Money,success,attractiveness to women. Its not wrong to want to succeed,its not wrong to want a life partner but it is wrong to blame God for not giving you what you want when you want it. God doesn't move just because we throw a fit and shake our fist to heaven. God is moved by a heart that loves and follows Him. Here's an example,what if God called you to the mission field,would you go? Are you willing to follow God and trust Him with your life? You're not there yet,you have a lot of maturing to do. As long as your priorities are on worldly things you be unhappy. If you cannot be happy with the fact that Jesus died for you and saved you from sin there is no one who can help you.

We aren't promised the type of success you are looking for,in the Bible. Its sounds like you have been taught the prosperity doctrine somewhere along the way. Its a false doctrine. Paul said the following...

Phil. " for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. 12I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. 13I can do all this through him who gives me strength."

So here is the secret to life.In whatever circumstance,learn to praise God anyhow. Its not easy,in fact it can be very hard.But the Bible also says we are to "take up our cross" and follow Him. Our flesh doesn't want to do that. Our flesh wants money,success,an easy life. But thats not good for our spirit. God works out all our flaws, He takes us and molds us like clay until we are perfect. He puts us through the fire,but He knows what he's doing. Its hard to trust,its hard to believe He's working in our lives sometimes but like the "Footprints" poem says that when we thought He had left us,that is where He was carrying us all the way through. I hope you will take what Im saying to heart. We all have a testimony of hurts and disappointments and failures. Give it to the Lord. Tell him you're ready to listen,you're ready to follow. Until you lay it down you will never be happy no matter how much success you find in life.

RickyZ · Mar 14, 2016

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The God I know doesn't crap on anyone... but the ruler of this world sure does. Are you sure you haven't gotten them confused? It's obvious you've suffered a lot of crap in life. What's not obvious is where it's coming from. Because the God I know DOESN'T CRAP ON ANYONE.

kaylagrl · Mar 14, 2016

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If the OP would come clean and stop saying such outrageous things he would be taken seriously. People think a person is trolling when they have two different names without an explanation. More than patient is just an expression. Perhaps "very patient" is a better term.I'm quite surprised he hasn't been banned for many of the things he's said. As a person who was in ministry Im willing to listen to anyone who wants to talk, and I have done just that countless times. But when someone was being disrespectful I would call them on it. Then Id say,"now,if you can be respectful,we'll talk". So I say the same to the OP,you want to be respectful of the Lord and tell us why you feel as you do and whats under it all,we can talk. I know you agree with most of what I said.

kaylagrl · Mar 14, 2016

RickyZ said:

Thank you,that comment is dead on. Im glad that you shared it.

AuntieAnt · Mar 14, 2016

Alexander_M642 said:

Failure... Disappointment... Loneliness... Pain... and Humiliation sucks.... I'm really sorry you're hurting.

God is faithful, I know He'll help you.

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