An Apology
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J
you have the right to feel as you do, and I condemned no one, simply pointed to the fact forgiveness isn't conditional except upon the request to be forgiven and I stand by every word I have written in this thread with confidence and full assurance of Jesus Words. The word of God identifies Him as Love actually, sometimes tough Love and Love doesn't erase consequences. But really look at The teachings of Jesus and you will find bless those who insult you, forgive freely. if the Lord says "if your brother sins against you 7 times in a day and says I repent, forgive Him" or not 7 times but 77 times, or if its 7 times 70....ill go with His instruction over people who disregard His instruction. you say I'm condemning someone, really what I did was saw a group of "Christians" neglecting to forgive someone who did express repentance much better in His second apology, and also displayed a change in attitude. you are all saying well hes done this a lot before, so what, forgiveness isn't limited by what we have done in the past. I have been forgiven far too much, to refuse to forgive anyone who asks for forgiveness. I offered forgiveness after His 2nd apology wich I believed. My reaction to His first "apology" I stand by also as the right reaction from someone who is a follower of Jesus Christ and His teachings. do we administer the consequences when someone mocks us? or are we told to forgive someone who asks? I have no need to defend anything I have said here, it is commended By the Lords teachings. Blaine and a few others reacted in accordance to those teachings and are worthy of commendation.
I think you are confusing me condemning someone with me pointing out the lack of a good example in refusing to forgive the guy. yall are trying to limit and put future behavior on him because you have observed his past behavior, people can change in Christ, and I thank God for that. if he posts a similar message in the future and asks forgiveness, ill be right there to forgive him and offer prayer, and let him know that Christians forgive, its what we do.
I'm tired of a lot of things also but it doesn't really matter much, ill still do my best to follow Jesus even when I'm tired of what others do to represent him. its more about Jesus feelings on things than my own. God bless you
J
I do get it , its a poor example of a Christian to refuse to forgive someone who asks 2 times. its not wrong to point out a clear teaching of Jesus Christ to a group who is neglecting to follow it. if you guys feel condemned or convicted about what I said, maybe theres more to that than I'm condemning anyone, maybe I spoke the truth according to Gods word about forgiveness and you feel attacked or condemned? not really sure how Christians refuse to forgive and when its pointed out, they still argue it, when Jesus teachings are pretty clear regarding forgiveness. I haven't condemned anyone, but as you say tough Love. the difference is my "tough Love" is based on the teachings of Christ Jesus who commands forgiveness from His followers who have been forgiven. that being said......I am nothing, less than anyone else, I'm no ones teacher, I have no authority over youm them or anyone else. if someone is agreeing with Jesus teachings, they have a good valid point, doesn't matter their name, how others perceive them...Jesus matters.
God bless you
God bless you
J
we should probably all restrain ourselves to that sort of talk. i'm glad you're not into that Dollar guy or anything -- but you shouldn't be about that $ either. don't even worry about it. none of those things satisfy; they're imitations of real blessings.
i'm not saying God doesn't bless people with material wealth, or that He can't use it, or that it's not in His hand to do so - but real blessings in life are patience, peace in your heart, honor, wisdom, genuine affection.
no amount of 'stuff' or money purchases that. they're found when we stop chasing after material wealth altogether, and run after God.
godliness with contentment is great gain
(1 Timothy 6:6)
contentment. that's what you really want. but
whoever loves money never has enough
(Ecclesiastes 5:10)
(Ecclesiastes 5:10)
those two desires are at odds with each other. this is why you can't serve God and $$$$ -- but learning to be content with little is worth more than any amount of money. praise God if He is teaching you that! i grew up poor, and i thank Him for it; He brought me up caring about and respecting the right things, about wisdom and real treasure, not about 'stuff' or 'vanity' -- thank God for adversity!! through it He builds up our hearts and minds.
very wise and insightful words, God bless you
J
(I'm wondering if Chanch and jason have met many nonbelievers. I can't help but think, in my family, if happiness/blessedness is riches, than the nonbelievers have been blessed beyond even Funriders/Alexander's wildest dreams. They have great jobs they love, wonderful families, houses big enough for 2-15 families to comfortably live in, and even the dogs and pool. God HAS blessed them, and yet they don't want to know him.)
because you used my name and inferred an untruth about my beliefs regarding blessed being money or riches, I will simply refer you to my very first comment in this thread. its not proper to label someones beliefs about such things when it is made clear to begin with what they actually do believe and have stated it clearly from the start. God bless you
wow.. i never thought of it that way lol. I don't want to seem as if I don't appreciate your compliment it actually is encouraging and helps me to know my heart heart is on the right path if people see him in me like and they express that. It's just i am not used to compliments like that and I also fear of letting it go to my head and so while I think it is appropriate I kind of deflect it and aim at him but at the same time I feel as if he wants me to embrace it even if a little because in both mine and his eyes this is a team effort he and I do everything together I never take one step unless he does first.
S
Just skimming through this thread and I'm feeling two things about this; First, if this guy IS being totally insincere and sarcastic like many here seem to think, then why engage him at all and lower yourself to his level? Just ignore him, don't comment in his thread, and forget about it, whilst continuing to pray for him. On the other hand, if this post contains any truth at all, then it's really a cry for help of sorts, even if it is offensive to some, in which case the OP needs prayer and support, not ridicule and insults. Either way, being a little more Christian would help everyone, in general.
J
well in response I didn't get past your first sentence, because I understand that the first apology, was pretty offensive to Christians. if I were you I would first read His posts in the thread, IF you find the need to say what you said about me attacking or condemning anyone. maybe you should get past a sentence or two and actually see whats being said that way you can be fully informed and have a good basis for your response. just a thought though, you are your own man
J
lol I understood originally that it comes from a heart of humility in you, I didn't mean any offense or anything, just wanted to respect the humble heart you possess. there was no error in your words, you directed glory to God, and humility and I just wanted to respect that. I appreciate the traits you always seem to reflect in your words, just wanted to let you know that Christ shines in you and is visable. you are the light of the world matthew 5:14-16, God bless and "your gentleness is evident to all brother"