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FreeNChrist
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Nope, just read what was written about the gnostics and it sounds eerily like the Hyper grace or grace only crowd. I know to stay away from it. There is no, new gospel
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FreeNChrist
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Which just means you've never understood what the Gnostics believed, nor what the message of Gods grace means.
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eternally-gratefull
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Its called the cross of Christ.
Why would you mock Christ by saying he did not have to do anything?
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eternally-gratefull
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FreeNChrist
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Then, by all means, please explain to us what your message that is different from message of Gods Grace is.
Like you assume I can't retain what I read. Is this junior high or what?
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eternally-gratefull
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Assuming, is inassuming what you read is correct.
Hyper grace does not resemble gnostic belief or teaching in any shape or fashion.
That is the conspiracy theory you read, which you should not assume was correct.
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eternally-gratefull
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Did I say it was scripture? No. More assuming. It was Iraneus not Ignatius, my mistake. Do you ever read amything besides the bible?
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FreeNChrist
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It's the bogus claim that grace believers are gnostic...it's just because certain people don't understand about the new creation in Christ - created in righteousness and holiness and that the old man is dead..nor do they understand the circumcision of Christ and the flesh....they can't figure out spiritual truths because they are operating from their own natural mind.
So, to them the new man in Christ is a mystery and to them it makes it look "gnostic" ..you will soon find out that anyone that doesn't agree with their views are gnostic whether they believe in the gospel of the grace of Christ or not......it's the nature of the beast...
So, to them the new man in Christ is a mystery and to them it makes it look "gnostic" ..you will soon find out that anyone that doesn't agree with their views are gnostic whether they believe in the gospel of the grace of Christ or not......it's the nature of the beast...
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FreeNChrist
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It's the bogus claim that grace believers are gnostic...it's just because certain people don't understand about the new creation in Christ - created in righteousness and holiness and that the old man is dead....they can't figure out spiritual truths because they are operating from their own natural mind.
So, to them the new man in Christ is a mystery and to them it makes it look "gnostic" ..you will soon find out that anyone that doesn't agree with their views are gnostic whether they believe in the gospel of the grace of Christ or not......it's the nature of the beast...
I smell a shill........
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eternally-gratefull
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Yes, But not to get my doctrines, And I would never try to compair what people did 2000 years ago to people today, Especially off an extra biblical book.
Why would I? I would be following men, and not the word of God.
Now, Free has asked you a few times what you would add to grace to make the gospel of God complete.
Are you going to answer him, Or keep just bearing false witness against us based on some man who has been dead for centuries..
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eternally-gratefull
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Oh so now your into name calling.
I am not waging war, I just asked a simple question..
And no. I went back. You have been to busy answering me then trying to answer him.