The Affliction Of Conspiracy Theorists
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No. The end of my logic is that a 757 did not crash into the Pentagon. Whether people are lying or misinformed or partially correct is totally irrelevant to me. I do not care. I haven't met one person who can tell me with a straight face, after seeing actual pictures, that it was the scene of a plane crash.
A 757 skid across the lawn and hit the Pentagon horizontally?? Just wow. I can't even...
At least dignify my intelligence and tell me some lunatic got a hold of an RPG/ATGM.
A 757 skid across the lawn and hit the Pentagon horizontally?? Just wow. I can't even...
At least dignify my intelligence and tell me some lunatic got a hold of an RPG/ATGM.
Here is a perfect example of a conspiracy nut saying his eyes tell him everything he needs to know and that the pentagon attack could not have involved a commercial jet. He never read and of the evidence. He didn't bother to investigate any fact that contradicts what he wants to believe. He went to an internet site designed by a conspiracy nut and viewed one picture that was likely taken after plane debris was gathered and removed from the scene and concludes it can't be a plane attack since his picture doesn't show plane parts. He could care less if other pictures show all sorts of plane parts.
What many conspiracy nuts want it that cartoon cutout they use to see growing up watching bugs bunny, where the object goes through a wall and a perfectly shaped rabbit silhouette cutout is left behind in the wall. That's what they expect to see at the pentagon. This picture was taken after the pentagon building burned for a while and collapsed, making it more difficult to see where the plane struck and entered the building.
It's almost like I am clairvoyant. What did I tell you was going to happen? That a conspiracy nut would post a response about the pentagon attack having nothing to do with the pentagon attack, trying to deflect from dealing with the facts of that attack. Then you ask me my motives. I've been through this again and again. Answer specific questions about the pentagon or go start yet another thread about another made up conspiracy. You whacko's are as predictable as you are mentally ill.
Plane or missile?
Explain the eye witness accounts.
Explain the light poles knocked over by flight 77.
Explain the plane parts and the DNA of the passengers.
Make an intelligent post that explains what you believed happened and include evidence that supports your theory. If you cannot do that, consider admitting that flight 77 struck the pentagon and that the conspiracy theories are all false and have been thoroughly debunked.
Plane or missile?
Explain the eye witness accounts.
Explain the light poles knocked over by flight 77.
Explain the plane parts and the DNA of the passengers.
Make an intelligent post that explains what you believed happened and include evidence that supports your theory. If you cannot do that, consider admitting that flight 77 struck the pentagon and that the conspiracy theories are all false and have been thoroughly debunked.
Here's a response often posted by people who'd rather not do any leg work or view any evidence. She assumes the hole is small. One conspiracy site stated to it's viewers that the hole was a mere 16' across. I'm not sure how he came to that conclusion, but if you are a conspiracy nut, you take such information as gospel. It's really not that difficult to view all the photos of the aftermath, before and after the building collapsed. It's not difficult to find out the precise measurements of the width of the impact. It's not difficult to find photos of the airplane parts after it struck the building. But a conspiracy nut will never do such simple searches. Instead they will search sites inventing false narratives and embrace those fantasies without question.
Let me look for the pictures that I saw..then you'll see why I said the plane would have had to be rolling..
Okay, now THIS is the one and ONLY picture I've seen of the damage to the Pentagon. From this angle, it don't look like no huge 757 went through it.. jmo
Okay, now THIS is the one and ONLY picture I've seen of the damage to the Pentagon. From this angle, it don't look like no huge 757 went through it.. jmo
Here is a previous post on the subject that is most revealing. That is, the person posting says they have viewed only one picture of the damage done to the pentagon on 9/11. They could have viewed dozens of pictures and read information describing each picture in context to where and when it was taken, but she chose not to. Then she chose to summarize, based on admitted limited information, that a 757 could not have went through the hole pictured.
How do you convince someone like this that they have been duped. That they are looking at a picture of an interior wall of the pentagon, the furthest most point where the nose of flight 77 penetrated into the pentagon. I don't recall off hand, but I believe it may have been called the "C" wall. But to suggest or post this picture and think that flight 77 had to have traveled through this small hole, shows the mindset of conspiracy nuts. They are by default, highly illogical people who seem to embrace preposterous theories while incapable of doing even the slightest amount of research that would debunk those insane theories.
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And if 911 really was an inside job then why is are not worldwide outrage over this? Why is nobody protesting this? If all you conspiracy people are that sure that 9/11 was an inside job then why are you not protesting Washington and demanding that the government tell the truth?? Its because as much as you want to believe these ridiculous theories, you know you really have no proof.. if you were to take all your flimsy evidence to court, not a bit of it would hold up. ... also if you really believe that you were government would kill thousands of this own people then why have you not left yet?
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Only all of these theories have been unequivocally debunked. Even as we speak we have Christian genocide in Africa so why is it so hard to believe that Islamic terrorists would kill a few thousand of us? And why go through that much trouble just to fake an attack. Its way too elaborate of a conspiracy and involving way too many people. It would be much easier just to attack my boat and launch a few missiles in the downtown Manhattan
Again....this is chess...not checkers. Too much violence and it would tip the balance....but just enough to keep shaping public opinion the way they want it to go. Only a fool would think that we aren't being studied and shaped en mass. If you're online there is a profile about you somewhere. They know you better than you know yourself.
Here ya go dude. Straight from the horses mouth.
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"...for daring to question anything..."
That's the essence of this debate. Conspiracy theorists don't question anything with a critical eye. They purposely avoid questions, just as you have. They seek only silly internet sites or blogs where some guy's wife is video taping him standing in their living room, reading a script he made up that defies logic and is easily disproved.
What happened when I said we would now begin a debate on the 9/11 attack at the pentagon? Did you participate? Did you read and then respond to my questions? No, look at what you've posted. Blah, blah blah probably because careers are ruined and blah blah blah chess, not checkers. There is a good reason for it. Your world of conspiracies unravel when you are forced to focus on just one of them and then fail to defend it. What will your next post contain? A discussion of something the government did 50 years ago that is commonly seen as a conspiracy? A mention of something you once say about 9/11 but can't seem to find it to post here? Focus man. 9/11, pentagon, flight 77. If you have something to contribute, now is the time.
That's the essence of this debate. Conspiracy theorists don't question anything with a critical eye. They purposely avoid questions, just as you have. They seek only silly internet sites or blogs where some guy's wife is video taping him standing in their living room, reading a script he made up that defies logic and is easily disproved.
What happened when I said we would now begin a debate on the 9/11 attack at the pentagon? Did you participate? Did you read and then respond to my questions? No, look at what you've posted. Blah, blah blah probably because careers are ruined and blah blah blah chess, not checkers. There is a good reason for it. Your world of conspiracies unravel when you are forced to focus on just one of them and then fail to defend it. What will your next post contain? A discussion of something the government did 50 years ago that is commonly seen as a conspiracy? A mention of something you once say about 9/11 but can't seem to find it to post here? Focus man. 9/11, pentagon, flight 77. If you have something to contribute, now is the time.
This was post #480 of the 9/11 thread. I repost it because the very next message was my own, asking this conspiracy person to go ahead and post the "many videos" of long time 757 pilots saying and showing that the maneuvers supposedly done by flight 77 can not be done. Seems like a reasonable request and a simple one for KennethC to respond to. And guess what? Of course, he declined to post a single one of those videos that he believes completely proves flight 77 could not have been flown into the pentagon. Another swing and another miss. Next.