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PeacefulWarrior

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PeacefulWarrior said:
Would you say there is a distinction between the Law of the OT and Divine Law?
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Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole." (Gal 3:13)
 
Budman

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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
The bible says that the righteous effects (righteous deeds) of the law will be accomplished in those who walk by the spirit. Those who walk by the flesh will not inherit the kingdom of GOD, because GOD doesn't know them.
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The effects/penalties of the Law were accomplished by Christ. He lived the Law perfectly. Because we can't.

Our new nature does walk in the Spirit, because that new nature is Christ in us.
 
Blain

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Budman said:
As they do?

The harsh reality is this: If they preach a different gospel, then we are not responding to fellow believers - they are not Christians. We are responding to antichrists.

They trample the blood of Jesus underfoot by insisting we must obey the Law to keep our salvation, yet the Bible teaches Christ abolished the Law by taking all sin upon Himself for our complete forgiveness.
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See the issue is everyone has a different idea what the gospel is usually based on what doctrine they believe is the truth. if you have all the correct doctrines then you my friend have done what no one ever has except Jesus.

The gospel of Christ is not based on our interpretation of scripture or what we believe which doctrine is the truth and so to call them antichrists is not just wrong it's un christ like
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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PeacefulWarrior said:
What is this 'gospel of grace'?
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Galatians 3:22-25 (NIV)

22 But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.

23 Before the coming of this faith,[a] we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
 
Budman

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PeacefulWarrior said:
What is this 'gospel of grace'?
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There is absolutely nothing you've done, or can ever do, to obtain, or retain salvation, based upon your personal efforts. Jesus paid the penalty for every sin - the sins of the whole world - on the cross. Salvation is thus offered as a free gift from God to all who will call upon the name of the Lord.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. (Matt 23:23)
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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Budman said:
There is absolutely nothing you've done, or can ever do, to obtain, or retain salvation, based upon your personal efforts. Jesus paid the penalty for every sin - the sins of the whole world - on the cross. Salvation is thus offered as a free gift from God to all who will call upon the name of the Lord.
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Cool. Is anyone arguing with this, in this thread?
 
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FreeNChrist

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Blain said:
True but how it is done decides if it was love and if it was to set others free with truth
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Like I said, it is easy to judge from the sidelines, and yes you have been on the sidelines in this thread, and in the many other threads many of us here have been engaged in with these same folks.
 
Budman

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Blain said:
See the issue is everyone has a different idea what the gospel is usually based on what doctrine they believe is the truth. if you have all the correct doctrines then you my friend have done what no one ever has except Jesus.

The gospel of Christ is not based on our interpretation of scripture or what we believe which doctrine is the truth and so to call them antichrists is not just wrong it's un christ like
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There is only one correct interpretation of the gospel. If all interpretations of the gospel were valid, then our salvation is dependent on whatever we want it to be.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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FreeNChrist said:
Like I said, it is easy to judge from the sidelines, and yes you have been on the sidelines in this thread, and in the many other threads many of us here have been engaged in with these same folks.
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Many more will view this thread from the sidelines than from within the trenches.
What we see, from the sidelines, is not love.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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Budman said:
Yes. The one's who are claiming you have to live a certain way, to keep your salvation.
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Really? I just read the entire thread today (starting with posts from 2016) and did not see anyone making these contrary claims.
 
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FreeNChrist

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PeacefulWarrior said:
Really? I just read the entire thread today (starting with posts from 2016) and did not see anyone making these contrary claims.
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There is history here that you are seemingly oblivious to.
 
Budman

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I have always eschewed legalism
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That's ridiculous. You're the poster-boy of works-for-salvation.

Tell me the difference between works, and the Law.
 
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FreeNChrist

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PeacefulWarrior said:
Many more will view this thread from the sidelines than from within the trenches.
What we see, from the sidelines, is not love.
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What you see is based and biased by your limited viewpoint.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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FreeNChrist said:
There is history here that you are seemingly oblivious to.
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Mind showing me?
I think attempting to show me would be more productive than simply pointing out "you've missed something". Don't you?
 
Budman

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PeacefulWarrior said:
Mind showing me?
I think attempting to show me would be more productive than simply pointing out "you've missed something". Don't you?
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Go to HeRoseFromTheDead's page, (or PeterJens) and just start reading.....
 
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