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PeacefulWarrior

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FreeNChrist said:
Listen, I've actually been cutting you slack because you're obviously clueless to that is going on between people in this thread. Coming into a thread without any knowledge whatsoever of the history of those in it, and telling them how they should and shouldn't be posting, judging them, and then offering up an amateur psychological critic of each person posting based in your limited knowledge......that is being obtuse. And that is the kindest thing I can say about it.
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Listen?

You've rejected many in this thread, including myself, and all I have attempted to do in this thread is be a peacemaker.
...and now you want me to listen, to you?

Cutting me slack? You don't control me. Consider your words more carefully.

FreeNChrist, You're right -- I am (almost) completely ignorant to the history between you and other CC members. I think it's safe to say that MOST CC members are completely ignorant to your personal history with other members. This should make our words carry more weight with you; we're "sitting on the sidelines" (as you say) and we're trying to tell you what we see... which is NO LOVE! NO COMPASSION! LACK OF FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT!

Take it to heart instead of fighting it. Or is there no room for improvement, with you?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Magenta said:
HeRose uses Scripture often. I have been a witness to this
going on for months now, so I know the context.
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in the posts I confronted him on, He was not using scripture. He used the words of some man who has been dead for centuries.

Please. Try to get context..
I was confronting his use of words of men to condemn other people including myself. Not that e NEVER used scripture
 
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FreeNChrist

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PeacefulWarrior said:
Listen?

You've rejected many in this thread, including myself, and all I have attempted to do in this thread is be a peacemaker.
...and now you want me to listen, to you?

Cutting me slack? You don't control me. Consider your words more carefully.

FreeNChrist, You're right -- I am (almost) completely ignorant to the history between you and other CC members. I think it's safe to say that MOST CC members are completely ignorant to your personal history with other members. This should make our words carry more weight with you; we're "sitting on the sidelines" (as you say) and we're trying to tell you what we see... which is NO LOVE! NO COMPASSION! LACK OF FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT!

Take it to heart instead of fighting it. Or is there no room for improvement, with you?
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You just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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valiant said:
lol if I am blameless I am perfect, You just make these things suit yourself
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Rather than laughing at error, we should ask for clarification and correct when wrong.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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eternally-gratefull said:

1. He used the words of men to confront and condemn me and others
2. He did not use scripture.

and he will continue to be confronted about doing that as long as he continues to do that,

try to look at context. Is context a dirty word around here?
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Was he even trying to condemn you? Where is the post in question? It looked to me like he was showing a correlation between Gnostic understanding of spirit and modern understanding of spirit. I did not understand his post to be condemning in nature.
 
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phil36

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​John 10:28New International Version (NIV)

28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead

You're just channeling the gnostic dualism that views everything as being determined by nature. The spirit man can't sin, but the old man can. Guess what? This dissociative separation only exists in the mind. Man is a whole comprised of old man and new spirit, and GOD holds the whole man accountable for what he does with the body.

The gnostics did not believe this. They believed that they were saved by their spiritual nature, just as you do; and that the conduct of the body was irrelevant to salvation, just as you do (and even said so in your post).

Budman: how we live our lives has no bearing on whether or not we keep our salvation ... We are holy, righteous, and sinless because that is what He is, and what His nature in us proclaims

Gnostics (per Irenaeus): [the gnostics] hold that they shall be entirely and undoubtedly saved, not by means of conduct, but because they are spiritual by nature... it is impossible that spiritual substance (by which they mean themselves) should ever come under the power of corruption [of sin], whatever the sort of actions in which they indulged.
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This demonstrates how CC operates. I clearly showed a perfect correlation between Budman's OSAS (or possibly "grace" believer) beliefs and the gnostic's beliefs, and the only responses are denial and silence.
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so please. magenta, and psalmist.

can you show were scripture was used in this post to condemn others??

especially since he made the comment, HE PROVED HE WAS RIGHT (perfect correlation)

How do you PROVE something apart from scripture?

 
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FreeNChrist

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phil36 said:
​John 10:28New International Version (NIV)

28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
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There you have it.

Thread closed........again.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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eternally-gratefull said:
so please. magenta, and psalmist.

can you show were scripture was used in this post to condemn others??

especially since he made the comment, HE PROVED HE WAS RIGHT (perfect correlation)

How do you PROVE something apart from scripture?
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This line sums up the main idea: "Man is a whole comprised of old man and new spirit, and GOD holds the whole man accountable for what he does with the body. "
 
Magenta

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eternally-gratefull said:
in the posts I confronted him on, He was not using scripture. He used the words of some man who has been dead for centuries.

Please. Try to get context..
I was confronting his use of words of men to condemn other people including myself. Not that e NEVER used scripture
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Your posts are more often than not simply your opinion, so based on what you said, nobody should be listening to you. I appreciate that HeRose has done research to show that was its being put forth is not new, and has it's origins in antiquity, as part of heresies that were being denounced in the early church. Does it matter how long these men have been dead? You talk as if it does, when the heresies live on... much like Roman Catholicism!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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PeacefulWarrior said:
Was he even trying to condemn you? Where is the post in question? It looked to me like he was showing a correlation between Gnostic understanding of spirit and modern understanding of spirit. I did not understand his post to be condemning in nature.
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Nikki84 said:
Nope, just read what was written about the gnostics and it sounds eerily like the Hyper grace or grace only crowd. I know to stay away from it. There is no, new gospel
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Nikki84 said:
I saw an interesting post yesterday about gnostics. The Grace only message is what they taught and they have been rejected.
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yep he was not condemning anybody. :rolleyes:

 
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thepsalmist

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"... still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest" - the boxer - Simon and Garfunkel
 
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kaylagrl

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phil36 said:
​John 10:28New International Version (NIV)

28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
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No one can take you away,that doesn't mean you cant walk away. Sorry, all I was seeing was posts on this thread and got lonely. I thought I should say something,I needed to be part of the CC crowd. :(
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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It seems the question of interest is centered around the nature of Man:
Is man both spirit and flesh?
Is man both old and new?
 
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kaylagrl said:
No one can take you away,that doesn't mean you cant walk away. Sorry, all I was seeing was posts on this thread and got lonely. I thought I should say something,I needed to be part of the CC crowd. :(
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[h=1]Ephesians 1:11New International Version (NIV)[/h]11 In him we were also chosen,[a] having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purposeof his will,
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Magenta said:
Your posts are more often than not simply your opinion, so based on what you said, nobody should be listening to you. I appreciate that HeRose has done research to show that was its being put forth is not new, and has it's origins in antiquity, as part of heresies that were being denounced in the early church. Does it matter how long these men have been dead? You talk as if it does, when the heresies live on... much like Roman Catholicism!
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so what your saying is, Because he posts some scripture. He has the right to use the words of some man dead for centuries to condemn others. And because of this, he does not have to listen to what anyone says, he can continue to bear false witness against them. and tell lies about them?

ok, thanks, I did not know that was CC policy.

so there you have it folks. Posts some scripture. as long as you do this, you can use the words of anyone else to falsly accuse others. and you are free from actually having a conversation with that person, to find out what they really believe.

SMH,, I think someone in another thread is right, this place is getting out of hand.
 
Magenta

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eternally-gratefull said:

so what your saying is, Because he posts some scripture. He has the right to use the words of some man dead for centuries to condemn others. And because of this, he does not have to listen to what anyone says, he can continue to bear false witness against them. and tell lies about them?

ok, thanks, I did not know that was CC policy.

so there you have it folks. Posts some scripture. as long as you do this, you can use the words of anyone else to falsly accuse others. and you are free from actually having a conversation with that person, to find out what they really believe.

SMH,, I think someone in another thread is right, this place is getting out of hand.
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No, that is not what I said at all. Your methods leave a lot to be desired.
 
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