Obedience & righteousness - extreme grace version

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

So what happens when you believe in Christ, but don't do his will?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

really?

or is that perhaps only confusing to you?

there is nothing in his post about not praying

are you trying to derail what he states? I would hope not

Thank you sis, You just kept me from having to respond to his post. And it seeming like I got mad or something.. I would mutch rather, as I said, have this happen..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

EG lost it the other day and you did a month or so back.

You are again back to ordering me about. Does not work you know. You do not have that authority or power.
By the way saying I had any influence on cc was just your invention, so I have no confidence on your ability to control your contributions.

And you lost it today. This whole thread proves it. there is no other reason to make up a whole thread to try to justify your lies, and protect yourself than because you got angry, because when our pride gets hurt, We have to protect our self at all cost.

Even if it means lying about those I am mad at to make myself look good.

Again, as usual, You judge others for doing the very thing you do almost every day.

I must ask, why do you keep excusing your sin, while judging others of theirs?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

what on earth?

you are not even making sense at this point!

Thats what happens when our emotions get the best of us, and we have to contractually try to defend ourselves/

And he said we get angry? I don;t remember, maybe I did, But that does not excuse his anger,

as I said a few days ago. two wrongs do not make a right.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Ummmmmm just asking clarification. I believe EG can do that for him/her self

So someone else sees what you did, and you had to go off on her too?

I never mentioned you not praying in that post. So can you explain what you meant?

 

[PeterJens]

Peter... it is not cool to make a thread specifically to talk about a person who you argued with and while I think both you and eg said things that should not have been said you are the only one who is slandering at this point and that is unacceptable.

Blain - I recommend you read the posts and then draw your own conclusions.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

"Grace Believers" run us down (who from the fear of God guard against sinning even in thought or word) as utterly contemptible and ignorant persons, while they highly exalt themselves, and claim to be perfect, and the elect seed.

Not a single "grace believer" refuted doing this because, well, that's what they do. Funny thing is this is a verbatim quote by Irenaeus describing how the gnostics treated the Christians. I just replaced gnostics with "Grace Believers".

I enjoy interacting with you folks. You have taught me so much.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

EG wrote "So God gives you grace as you are perfect. And not because you are like tax collector who has to get on your knees"

This seems like an indictment against. prayer. That's why I want the clarification. I don't want to fight with you

Originally Posted by PeterJens
They do not hold to this, though they talk of grace, it is grace to a flawed and failed people who actually stay like that except of occasional miraculous healings. Anything else is of the flesh.

According to peter. Grace is not given to a flawed and failed people. So I assume it is only given to righteous people,

if this is so. Then Peter never had to get on his knee as a tac collector. Because the tax collected was flawed and failed person.

Sometimes we just have to read what the comment is in response to.. response you seem to have a problem with was a QUESTION to peter. asking him to confirm what he had just said..

Do you have an answer?

 

[PeterJens]

But that does not excuse his anger,

EG got to laugh. I do not get angry at you or what is said here. It has gone way beyond making sense or something I relate to. You have your agenda, which works within the limitations you set. Good on you. I hope you are happy with how you do. Because that is all it is going to bring about.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So what happens when you believe in Christ, but don't do his will?

Sin.

Are you perfect? If you are,, You have done what no other man but Christ has done,

If your not perfect. Like the rest of us, You do this every day,

The question is not can we sin, the question is what do we do when we do sin.

1. Hide it, ignore it, say it is not sin,
2. Confess that sin, and beg God to save us again
3. Thank God for saving me in spite of my sin, confess that sin, Ask God for help, and to show you your heart and why you do that sin, Get healed, and move on in grace.

 

[PeterJens]

Interesting point. Are we made perfect in Christ, empowered to walk in righteousness.

EG obviously thinks all we have is grace for a broken people never made whole. You heard it here first.

 

[FreeNChrist]

"Grace Believers" run us down (who from the fear of God guard against sinning even in thought or word) as utterly contemptible and ignorant persons, while they highly exalt themselves, and claim to be perfect, and the elect seed.

LOL. That is all a pure and utter projection of how you think and what you do.

Dr. Freud, calling Dr. Freud.......

 

[Blain]

Blain - I recommend you read the posts and then draw your own conclusions.

If you mean the thread with over fifty pages from yesterday I was there I know what went down, as for this one I have to read through it all but I wanted to confront your original post. If eg or anyone here said things they know is not of Love I also will lovingly correct them. I do not play favorites and I am not the judge of people in cc I fear sometimes I appear to think that to others. But I only remind everyone who we are called to be and if I am starting to seem like the judge with hammer then I would appreciate being notified of it

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Blain - I recommend you read the posts and then draw your own conclusions.

So now your going to blaim him too?

Why is it you never take responsibility for your own actions?

Like I said before. Keep talking, you keep exposing your true self.

 

[FreeNChrist]

So what happens when you believe in Christ, but don't do his will?

First you need figure out what actually happens when you believe in Christ, then you will know what happens when you don't do His will.

 

[Blain]

So now your going to blaim him too?

Why is it you never take responsibility for your own actions?

Like I said before. Keep talking, you keep exposing your true self.

No he wasn't blaming me, he knows I am one to find things out for myself rather than blindly believe things. Although I did kind of jump in here without reading the entire thread

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Not a single "grace believer" refuted doing this because, well, that's what they do. Funny thing is this is a verbatim quote by Irenaeus describing how the gnostics treated the Christians. I just replaced gnostics with "Grace Believers".

I enjoy interacting with you folks. You have taught me so much.

Thats ok, I never claimed to be PERFECT, so I did not have to defend anything.

That was just another one of Peters lies about us..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

EG got to laugh. I do not get angry at you or what is said here.

Whatever dude, You do not make a whole thread trying to condemn another user, and single him out unless you get mad.

Stop excusing your sin, repent, and admit for once in your life, You were wrong.

It has gone way beyond making sense or something I relate to. You have your agenda, which works within the limitations you set. Good on you. I hope you are happy with how you do. Because that is all it is going to bring about.

I have no agenda at all, except to take a self righteous man who keeps lieghing about others, then trying to be all religious and tell everyone how he loves obedience and how us other people hate obedience, thats why we hate you, and expose it as the lie it is.

Blain tried to help us yesterday, I thought we were done, But no, You had to rehash it, that was amistake.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Interesting point. Are we made perfect in Christ, empowered to walk in righteousness.

EG obviously thinks all we have is grace for a broken people never made whole. You heard it here first.

I am not the one saying one is righteous by the actions they do. not God making them that way,

thats you ..

Yes, EG thinks Gods grace is for broken people. because apart from Gods grace, every one of us stands broken.

Thanks for telling everyone and letting me share what I really believe, and not what you think I believe.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No he wasn't blaming me, he knows I am one to find things out for myself rather than blindly believe things. Although I did kind of jump in here without reading the entire thread

well I firmly believe he was telling you if you read the thread, you would find he was right.

But I will give you that, I know you try to be honest. and I thank you once again.