Obedience & righteousness - extreme grace version

[PilgrimPassingThru]

If you believe peter was saying we could lose salvation.

Yes you did twist his words. Because Peter did not contradict the rest of scripture.

She quoted Peters words directly and correctly

 

[eternally-gratefull]

PeterJans & EG -

Give it a rest already!

The two of you (quite obviously) cannot get along.

Instead of discussing an important topic, this has become a "he said / she said" bickering match!

I'm pretty sure gossip is against both of yall's beliefs!

seriously?

I have not spoken to Peter since last week I have put him on ignore like you and others asked me to.

So not sure what your jiving at.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

She quoted Peters words directly and correctly

Yep she did,

To show what she thought peter to say one can lose salvation.

I can prove alot of scripture. It does not mean it supports what I think it says.

The pharisees could quote the scripture word for word by memory, Does it mean they understood it?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

With all due respect, it is the due of all to share truth, no matter how many times it must be repeated. While there is a true dialogue, it is always good. If you or I do not like the repetitions, we may, just as with books, videos, music, televion, or any other media, elect not to participate in it or with it..

Personally, I will never tire of sharing what I believe to be the teaching of Jesus Christ with any and all, no matter how many times a specific subject is brought up, but this is my thinking, and you are completely entitled to add yours. God bless you always.

and we will keep showing you how often you slander us, and prove you do not know what we believe..

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

Keep in mind when you are responding to anything people post, keep to what you are quoting and not to what you imagine you have understood.

Thats a good word

 

[JaumeJ]

The correct term when dealing with textual slurs would be liable, not slander which is verbal..
Now I have not have not done this to anyone in particular, above all you, rather any remarks I have made have been to a general type of person. If you feel you fall into any of those categories, that would have to be a product of your own conscience. Now there have been times when you have assaulted my personal integrity as one who believes Jesus Christ.

You have no room to play the injured maiden, so can it.

and we will keep showing you how often you slander us, and prove you do not know what we believe..

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

Nor did I twist Peters words ... I did not place even ONE of MY words in there. Make of the scripture as you will.

I believe what I believe ......

Nah you didnt.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The correct term when dealing with textual slurs would be liable, not slander which is verbal..

You continue to tell me I do not teach or preach obedience, and that I consider everyone who teaches obedience a legalist, which is slander, (a lie) not a slur.

Now I have not have not done this to anyone in particular, above all you, rather any remarks I have made have been to a general type of person. If you feel you fall into any of those categories, that would have to be a product of your own conscience. Now there have been times when you have assaulted my personal integrity as one who believes Jesus Christ.

You have no room to play the injured maiden, so can it.

Well of course I will assault your gospel You teach works, Which will lead people to hell. while lying about me, saying I teach licentiousness (easy believism, Hypergrace. Couch chair Christianity whatever you happen to call it) which is a bold faced lie.

 

[JaumeJ]

Sorry about that egg you keep getting on your face. You are waffling.

You continue to tell me I do not teach or preach obedience, and that I consider everyone who teaches obedience a legalist, which is slander, (a lie) not a slur.




Well of course I will assault your gospel You teach works, Which will lead people to hell. while lying about me, saying I teach licentiousness (easy believism, Hypergrace. Couch chair Christianity whatever you happen to call it) which is a bold faced lie.

 

[thepsalmist]

Yep she did,

To show what she thought peter to say one can lose salvation.

I can prove alot of scripture. It does not mean it supports what I think it says.

The pharisees could quote the scripture word for word by memory, Does it mean they understood it?

Please don't profess to know my intent. .............

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

seriously?

I have not spoken to Peter since last week I have put him on ignore like you and others asked me to.

So not sure what your jiving at.

I never asked you to "put anyone on ignore". I have never advised someone to do so, nor do I recommend it.
Here's an example of an opportunity for me to go crazy and accuse you of twisting my words, lying, slander, etc. But no--I can see that this is obviously a misunderstanding (and a minimal one at that) and it's not even the main issue....so, I'm simply going to ignore the part where you publicly profess that I 'told you' to put someone on ignore. And move on to more important matters; Clarifying the post in question:

PeterJans & EG -


Give it a rest already!


The two of you (quite obviously) cannot get along.


Instead of discussing an important topic, this has become a "he said / she said" bickering match!


I'm pretty sure gossip is against both of yall's beliefs!

I addressed both PeterJens and you, EG, because you two are the primary individuals who are making accusations against each other in this thread. You may have very well given it a rest since this weekend--great! My post was in light of PeterJen's recent posts (today) which you apparently cannot see.

I'd like to see us move away from calling each other liars, hypocrites, slanderers, etc. And, instead, ask each other for clarification and edify each other in love. This "he said / she said" junk is just that -- junk!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Nah you didnt.

john 3: 16, for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him shal not perish but has eternal life.

I did not add any words to that verse,

But if I say that Jesus said that no one who has faith in Jesus has eternal life yet, that that life can be lost.

then I have twisted what Jesus said.

You can defend her all you want, she used that passage to prove to me that salvation can be lost. which is not what it is saying,

Thus she has to twist the passage for what she used it for to be true.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

and we will keep showing you how often you slander us, and prove you do not know what we believe..

Really?

How is this post helpful? How is it beneficial?
What does it say?

... can we keep the bickering private?

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

If you have a question, Ask him personally please, Do not go to another web site to try to figure out what he believes, Lets not be like HeRose or the others..

More of it...

...just stop already, EG.

Take a step back -- look at this from above.

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

Its exhausting isnt it? LOL!

 

[JaumeJ]

Watch that smart mouth of yours. I have only upheld the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and how I have been given to understand it.

If you ever refer to a gospel as my gospel I will report you, for there is only one Gospel, that of Jesus Christ. The thought makes me sick.

You will stop twisting things around and introducing terms which have never been used by me.

Do you have YOUR Gospel you give to others.

The Blood of Jesus Christ be your judge, not I.

You continue to tell me I do not teach or preach obedience, and that I consider everyone who teaches obedience a legalist, which is slander, (a lie) not a slur.




Well of course I will assault your gospel You teach works, Which will lead people to hell. while lying about me, saying I teach licentiousness (easy believism, Hypergrace. Couch chair Christianity whatever you happen to call it) which is a bold faced lie.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I never asked you to "put anyone on ignore". I have never advised someone to do so, nor do I recommend it.
Here's an example of an opportunity for me to go crazy and accuse you of twisting my words, lying, slander, etc. But no--I can see that this is obviously a misunderstanding (and a minimal one at that) and it's not even the main issue....so, I'm simply going to ignore the part where you publicly profess that I 'told you' to put someone on ignore. And move on to more important matters; Clarifying the post in question:



I addressed both PeterJens and you, EG, because you two are the primary individuals who are making accusations against each other in this thread. You may have very well given it a rest since this weekend--great! My post was in light of PeterJen's recent posts (today) which you apparently cannot see.

I'd like to see us move away from calling each other liars, hypocrites, slanderers, etc. And, instead, ask each other for clarification and edify each other in love. This "he said / she said" junk is just that -- junk!

so you made a mistake, And instead of appologizing you had to defend..

smh,, Thats the problem we have to begin with, people do not evidently think they have to admit they make mistakes.

If you did not say to ignore him last week I apologize (I know a few did, since you were the most outspoken, I assumed you were one of them,, Yeah I know, I know what assume does)

I would like to see people like Peter and then exposed for what they are, and not continually defended for the stuff they do.

But I guess I ask to much.

Again, You have not been here that long, We have asked peter for clarification, We have asked hm to stop lieing against us, and we have told him over and over what we believe, all he does is by his words, call us liars.

It is not us who are doing the things you are mad it.. It would be nice if you started addressing the ones who are.

 

[thepsalmist]

john 3: 16, for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him shal not perish but has eternal life.

I did not add any words to that verse,

But if I say that Jesus said that no one who has faith in Jesus has eternal life yet, that that life can be lost.

then I have twisted what Jesus said.

You can defend her all you want, she used that passage to prove to me that salvation can be lost. which is not what it is saying,

Thus she has to twist the passage for what she used it for to be true.

Again EG ... I said nothing ... I posted a scripture ...now STOP proclaiming you know why I posted that, or what it means to me.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

so you made a mistake, And instead of appologizing you had to defend..

smh,, Thats the problem we have to begin with, people do not evidently think they have to admit they make mistakes.

If you did not say to ignore him last week I apologize (I know a few did, since you were the most outspoken, I assumed you were one of them,, Yeah I know, I know what assume does)

I would like to see people like Peter and then exposed for what they are, and not continually defended for the stuff they do.

But I guess I ask to much.

WAKE UP EG!

No, man, YOU made a mistake and continue to do so! Are you blind?!

WAKE UP, EG!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Watch that smart mouth of yours. I have only upheld the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and how I have been given to understand it.

So you lie against me, and it is my smart mouth?

hmm, Your the one lying and slandering me,, again, you are not being very christ like

If you ever refer to a gospel as my gospel I will report you, for there is only one Gospel, that of Jesus Christ. The thought makes me sick.

lol.. Ok, Thanks, I will remember this and report you from now on when you claim my gospel teaches that one can live in sin..

Remember, Lets not be a hypocrite, it goes both ways.

You will stop twisting things around and introducing terms which have never been used by me.

well you could have settled it all by answering yes or no, but no. As usual, you refuse to do that..

So what else should we do?

Do you have YOUR Gospel you give to others.

The Blood of Jesus Christ be your judge, not I.

He is my judge, Not you.

Yet you judged me and my gospel all over the place today.

If you can not stand the heat, don't give it..