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If only the original question was about teachers. It was about pastors. (Or pasters.) She wasn't a pastor.
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coby
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You shouldn't take authority over a man. Didn't you learn anything in this thread?
You can say: Sorry but this post offends me. I find it inappropriate. Can you remove it please? Sure sorry.
Why so out of the air control? That's Dunglish. My goodness.
I posted pics of hotpants in another thread. Nobody says something about it. He makes a joke and is called creepy. That's exactly the same as calling Joyce Meyer and all women here who wear tight jeans a skank. Look at someone's heart and stop judging and better not mess with Nu2see or you will mess with me.
Women fight. Get the popcorn out.
You warn women not to pm him. The man is totally decent in his pm's. He sent me a link of Harvest America.
Thanks btw Nu2see.
I like steaming mine, and then baking it until it is slightly crispy. Being a vegan, I use psuedo cheese. I like to use finely grinded sesame seeds, with some olive oil sprinkled on, and maybe some seasoning.
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coby
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Plus it was my fault. Paster woman taught him how to do it in singles:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo5eswhvV7E
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo5eswhvV7E
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Miri
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Frankly, after all the yelling and screaming you just did, I was tempted to tell you to take a cold shower, but feared you think that was lewd too.
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Miri
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i have m&ms now.
i'm preaching for youth service in a month.
for easter services, the music team vocals take turns leading songs.
*eats m&ms*
You really like the m & ms don't you. Lol
Ah, I see. Well, you've cleared that up. It's in the houses where a meeting takes place, in the churches, and now in the chat rooms that we aren't allowed to speak against bad behavior by men. I just wasn't seeing the new law about chat rooms. We're only allowed to politely request that they stop. Got it.
Let me make sure I have it straight. We must listen to The Law of Paul to not call out a man on their bad and disrespectful behavior, but we can ignore Paul when he instructs us to leave behind coarse jesting. I'm slow to get the memo on all the new laws and which remain laws and which have become passe. Think I've got it now though. Thanks for clearing that up.
The verses were posted did you ignore them?
Second Timothy chapters two and three.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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You missed the Law of Jesus too.
Matt. 18:15 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. 18 Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 19 Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.”
According to Ephesians 4:11 it is God Who gifts pastors to the church. Why would God say a bishop is to be the husband of one wife and then go ahead an send a wife in place of a husband?I do not have a "Woman Pastor" but I do k now a women who pastors. One can do the work of a title and not have a title. only men seek after such things women know who they are in Christ and don't need a title
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Thank you Roger.
Easy to lose track of verses among the M&M's.
I'm stuck in the second verse of the second chapter...
this footnote reads: "The Greek word anthropoi can refer to both men and women, depending on the context"
...so it looks like this one's gonna be quite a headache to sort out.
Oh, you're a regular riot!
You just won't give peace a chance, will ya?!
That's twice now with your false accusations.
I'm didn't try to shame before, I'm not doing so now,
you have a lot of nerve with your false allegations.
And you got a lot of nerve with your disparaging
remarks regarding my Saviour and my relationship
with Him, you don't know me at all, and to judge my
heart is showing you're judgemental bitterness.
This thread is closed to me. I opt for peace.
It's interesting how I'm usually one of
the first to defend women, and their
signifigance in history, especially in Christ.
I often point out it was a Woman that was first
to carry the Good News of our Risen Saviour
from the empty tomb, and I've had many times
of defending the truth that (true)christianity is the Best
thing to happen to women,
because it's makes all christians equal
in Christ, and true christians rejoice in that, and celebrate
together the gifts God has given to us.
Many try to argue that the christian religion causes women
to be oppresed, but I'm quick to disagree ... loudly.......
Very much, and I don't shy away from that, and I can prove to
anybody that Jesus loves women more than Any of us,
and sets them freer than any system or 'liberation' this world
has to offer. God knows my heart, so your accusations are false!
You want to admit I was just kidding around,
but you didn't take too kindly to it, that it's not
your cup of tea and you didn't like? That's fine.
But don't go judging my heart or my motives,
you're insulting and you're wrong.
Again, My words were not intended to harm,
but yours repeatedly are, so you might want to
check the mirror for who's doing the offending.
I DO struggle with the question in the OP title,
and can see good points on both sides,
I've even defended both at times, considering
both unique situations and context.
So, should women be 'pastors'?
I know of one, for right now, that shouldn't be.
But I won't judge all women based on that,
any more than all ppl should be judged as
offended, based on the opinions of a few.
Some ppl laugh at different things,
some cry at different things, some are offended...
We shouldn't judge but what IS the motive?
If they want to be pastor's to lord it over others,
then no.
If they have a genuine heart to minister goodness
and mercy, joy and love, then, let's all be about
that, in the way Jesus calls us to be.
Goodbye, cruel thread.....
(some of you on it, I miss already,
some bits were fun, and some I actually
learned some things.)
(now, if I've learned from any women,
and they 'Pastored' to me,
will I have to give it back?)
(*christian faith, not religion^)
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I said 'border line". But yeah, that is close to the actual description. I thought his "feet" post was in appropriate. I read the post by SBG saying that this was a old poster who was writing unbecoming PM's. He said in a post responding to me "easy for someone like you", which I have no idea what he meant, and I asked him to explain it and he didn't. I told him his posts seemed to indicate he was without the joy of Christ, and that he may lack a healthy amount of self confidence. He was taking the thread way off the main subject, after repeated requests to please get back on subject. I pointed out and implied that that while I was sensitive to his issues, there was a lot to be thankful for.
I said what I did about him having a altered perspective, believe or not, from love. Maybe I said it in a no-nonsense, curt way, but that was because I had hoped that it would be a little jarring to him and that he would come out of his joyless place.
I offered to speak to him in a PM, and also asked if I could pray for him with no reply to either.
I typed that if he was speaking to me about being arrogant, etc., that I did not mean that, I don't think I have that spirit, and I regretted it.
He may be the nicest guy in the world, I don't know, but I think he needs a little more self respect, and I said it, not from the spirit of brutality, but as a fellow Christian hoping to be of help, even if some may think otherwise.
You may ask who am I to do that? Your right maybe... but you could be wrong. The bible says we are our brothers keeper. Maybe I was in error to do that publicly, as I am not personally adverse to him, without really knowing him. I admit that is a possibility.