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Huh?? There was nothing about a poll in the speech that man gave...and I don't remember a single thing about Job or Jonah in his message. When I listen, I really listen, and I didn't hear any of that! Are we talking about the same video? I'm talking about one that PW posted pages back. I reposted it. They, both the man and the woman who got up to speak later, were talking about the history and culture more than anything else.
And the article - oh wait, it was not PW, it was Grace777 that posted these - the article asks about positions of theologians on certain things Paul said. They are in...two different camps, but both of the camps sort of agree. If you read it, you see their positions are different BUT boil down to the same result. I don't recall Job or Jonah anywhere in the article OR the video....scratching my head here, chuck...
And the article - oh wait, it was not PW, it was Grace777 that posted these - the article asks about positions of theologians on certain things Paul said. They are in...two different camps, but both of the camps sort of agree. If you read it, you see their positions are different BUT boil down to the same result. I don't recall Job or Jonah anywhere in the article OR the video....scratching my head here, chuck...
I think he was referring to another video. I don't reacall that either.
Phil never responded if he was praying for us or not.
Chuck, as much as I like him, has not directly responded to my questions from about a zillion posts ago, which are essentially the same line of thinking that the video pointed out.
KJV has just quit the thread altogether without ever a explanation backed by scripture.
We had someone on here who said things that made some of the females uncomfortable.
You, SW, AA, JIA, nutso, and others have all made enlightening explanations. I think we've covered just about every angle.
For me, this thread is devolving into a bad habit. It has become a more lengthier discourse then the book of Job.
And like Job, it is just beginning to veer into the realm of rehash. It is becoming like that movie Groundhog Day.
Unless someone(s) can post other arguments from other sources, I don't see the point. But I will probably be back just out of curiosity.
Tongues; you know you just set yourself up.
The naysayers here will say good your on a thread that teaches a woman how to quiet them...
Phil never responded if he was praying for us or not.
Chuck, as much as I like him, has not directly responded to my questions from about a zillion posts ago, which are essentially the same line of thinking that the video pointed out.
KJV has just quit the thread altogether without ever a explanation backed by scripture.
We had someone on here who said things that made some of the females uncomfortable.
You, SW, AA, JIA, nutso, and others have all made enlightening explanations. I think we've covered just about every angle.
For me, this thread is devolving into a bad habit. It has become a more lengthier discourse then the book of Job.
And like Job, it is just beginning to veer into the realm of rehash. It is becoming like that movie Groundhog Day.
Unless someone(s) can post other arguments from other sources, I don't see the point. But I will probably be back just out of curiosity.
Tongues; you know you just set yourself up.
The naysayers here will say good your on a thread that teaches a woman how to quiet them...
Oh Jd, is it bad that I'm laughing? You just don't know what else to do. Like you said, at a certain point it just becomes like Groundhog Day. You can see very clearly that there is just not an openness there and that something actually PREVENTS them from even hearing you or watching a video. When you compound that with a skipping around, not reading all posts, you just have to shrug your shoulders at some point and move on I guess?
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Yeah, well, I figure some folks have already dipped into Wonderland and don't want to be pulled out. My arm isn't long enough to pull them out, so I'll pray God does.
(You do realize the rabbit hole is where the fighting throughout this came from, right? It's really not important enough to end fellowship over, but if you keep interpreting scripture to fit your mood, it will always end up in the same place -- the rabbit hole. Pretty much why this is now 90 pages long.)
(You do realize the rabbit hole is where the fighting throughout this came from, right? It's really not important enough to end fellowship over, but if you keep interpreting scripture to fit your mood, it will always end up in the same place -- the rabbit hole. Pretty much why this is now 90 pages long.)
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T'weren't me. I keep bringing it back to pastors, but everyone is determined to carry that on to all other offices and ministries. Deborah was talked about somewhere in the first quarter of this ever increasing thread.
After this many pages, assume everything was covered and still half of it is going off topic. (Albeit, I do love M&M's, so don't have problems with off-topic. lol)
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I'm beginning to see that some people just aren't willing to do the work of looking at a video or reading an article. They already have their minds made up and they aren't really interested in any new scholarship, even though we were told that in the last days knowledge would increase. I guess it feels better to them to remain where they are and continue in their same patterns. It's sad, but...you can't help someone not willing to do a little work. So now I'm off to tackle another problem area for me - tongues! (As if I didn't learn enough about the tongue in here!
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This has been a good and productive thread! Ciao!
)This has been a good and productive thread! Ciao!
Truth is I don't click on most links. (I did click one, but it was Germany -- I think. I'm a monoglot. lol) Tell me what it's about and then tell me why I want to click it and I might. But as far as educating me -- if I want the education -- I look for it from unbiased sources. Or, I'll listen to and participate in the debate, until someone tells me something that piques my interest. But propaganda videos on YouTube? Not even if the propaganda leans to my beliefs.
I figured it out. Here's the scripture that fits you:
‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’
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Off topic but I wanted to comment that casting out demons does not mean the person is saved. Jesus said "I do not know you" to people who claimed to cast out demons in His name, because if they don't receive the Holy,Spirit then 7 demons will come and,take their place and,they will be worst off than when they started.
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Even though I don't agree, I can respect that position because you are consistent in your beliefs.
Out of curiosity, how does your church deal with divorced people or pastors who no longer for the requirements?
For example I know a pastor whose son molested a girl and went to jail. Should the pastor have been removed from his church?
Out of curiosity, how does your church deal with divorced people or pastors who no longer for the requirements?
For example I know a pastor whose son molested a girl and went to jail. Should the pastor have been removed from his church?
Depleted, I won't talk to you when you're in this state, not speaking kindly or gently, rip-roaring all over everyone, popping in and out and arrogantly making all these sarcastic remarks.
If you want to have discourse with me I am glad to do that. But it's not going to happen this way.
Then again, you maybe don't want to talk to me at all and that's okay too. But I am explaining why I won't be answering posts like these until, or if, you stop speaking in this manner to everyone.
If you want to have discourse with me I am glad to do that. But it's not going to happen this way.
Then again, you maybe don't want to talk to me at all and that's okay too. But I am explaining why I won't be answering posts like these until, or if, you stop speaking in this manner to everyone.
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How many others will you get banned from passive aggressive? You laid down charges that NU was a pervert. I countered. You laid down charges that Elizabeth was having trouble with her husband. I countered. And then found out that was all about me. She doesn't even have a husband. You charged everyone but you were too lazy to watch links. I countered. Just because you mask your contempt for anyone who disagrees with you with flowery Christianese doesn't make what you're doing right. It doesn't even make it Christian.
I've been on this thread since the beginning. You?
So stop making yourself so
because it is clear you're not. This isn't sarcasm. This is clear, aggressive, and not even subtle. And, it's to you. I treat each person as an individual.
As for what state I'm in? Pennsylvania!
Now THAT was sarcastic, just so you get the difference.
I've been on this thread since the beginning. You?
So stop making yourself so
As for what state I'm in? Pennsylvania!
Now THAT was sarcastic, just so you get the difference.