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Then we are the one who must suffer right? Why someone else is punished for out faults!! Judge can either give punishment or forgive the accused. Where does he bring an innocent and punish him for crime he never committed ??
Hey, if you want to serve your righteous sentence, go for it.

I'm not that foolish. I know a great deal when I see it.

But don't be so foolish to think you get off just because you think you have this one figured out better than God. Really? You're not going to take the deal on moral grounds? You're assuming you HAVE moral grounds! Stupid assumption!

(Sniff sniff.)
 
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I believe you too did not live at the time of Jesus to witness what happened. !!

There is no doubt God exists, there is logic behind that as there can't be a perfect system without someone making that system, even mathematics makes u think there must be someone who set the laws of physics, chemistry or biology or astronomy !!

Only question that remains for me to find is which religion actually is true. That's why i am here to understand what you guys think makes it right religion. There are other religions too. So i am just studying all of em :)
You're right, I didn't see it. But I'm not the one claiming I never accept things just because someone says it. You said that. I was just showing how untrue your statement was.
 
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Yes, it's up to me to decide if I want to forgive you or not ! If u wrong any person, then you need pardon from both the victim & God. If victim forgives, so will God I think !
Yes God forgives. He forgave Adam and Eve immediately, but that couldn't get them back in their first sinless state and total unity with Him.
 
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Yiou can talk about "logic" all you want. But in the end, believing in Jesus Christ is a "heart" matter, not a head one.

"because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved." Romans 10:9-10

I studied all the religions of the world before I was saved. I read the "holy" books, I meditated with Buddhists, I danced with Sufis, I studied with Bahai's. I ate with and took courses from Hindus. Then I started reading the Bible, because my grandmother was a Christian.

I studied Science in University by day, drank in the bars at night. When I got home I would read the Bible, and put circles and question marks all over the margins and the pages.

Then Jesus spoke to me one night, when my future husband was telling me my big issue was I needed to repent of my sins. Jesus said, "I am God, and you will serve me and worship me. And I am your Saviour." This was the kind of voice you just obeyed! I repented of my drinking, I have never had another drop in 35 years. I also realized Jesus was the Saviour of the whole world, to those who believe and repent of their sins.

When I went home after that night that Jesus spoke to me, I picked up that Bible I had been reading, and I had the answer to all my questions - it was because I had met the author of the book!

So now I am a pastor, I study the Bible in the original languages, and I read it in English daily, too! I proclaim loudly that Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour. I realized one day, that what God said to me that night, was John 3:16:

"For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him, shall not perish but have everlasting life."

You are stumbling on the block about the deity of Christ. Jesus is God's only begotten Son, and he was the sacrifice for sin. You say you know Jews - but do they know the Bible? Do they know how many prophecies Jesus fulfilled, and that the chance of anyone else fulfiiling them is none? Because the Messiah must be of the line of David. Because the Romans destroyed the temple in 70 AD, and all the genealogical records, the Messiah had to come before that time. That is why both Matthew and Luke lay out the lineage of Jesus - Luke is for Mary's line, and Matthew for Joseph's line. Why Joseph? Because he was Jesus earthly father.

Here is something for you to read . It says there are 353 prophecies in the Old Testament that were fulfilled in Jesus. I have heard there are more, but this is a good list to start with. Maybe more logical for you?

AccordingtotheScriptures.org :: 353 Prophecies Fulfilled in Jesus Christ
Angela? Between you and I, I no longer think this guy has any concept of what logical means. And I say that as someone who truly likes logic.
 
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Christianity teaches, that all sins will be forgiven except the one - unbelief in the Son of God. That is the "decisive" sin. Because it defines your place before God
If a Christian commits murder but believes in Jesus, will the sin be forgiven?
 

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If a Christian commits murder but believes in Jesus, will the sin be forgiven?
1. Real christian will not commit such a serious sin.
2. Yes, even murder can be forgiven, because the death of the Son of God has the eternal price, more than all the sins of the universe, in the same meaning as God is more precious than any of his creation.
 

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So the Mormon who repents will go to heaven? No.
Yes. If they repent and accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior and not rely on ANYTHING else including some of the heresies they now believe.
 
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JesusJesus spoke to you literally?

If you studied all religions, tell me what do Muslims believe about Jesus, how many gods are there in Hindu religion, is Buddha god according to Buddhists?
Speaking of Easter, I figured out what that smell is. Rotten eggs. You don't want answers. You just want to run down the same lame list of stupid responses any non-thinking, illogical, attention-seeking SNERT can run down to see how long you can pull our chains. I give a certain amount of chain pulling, but that's it. You just ran out of chain.



Is this Jack?
 
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1. Real christian will not commit such a serious sin.
2. Yes, even murder can be forgiven, because the death of the Son of God has the eternal price, more than all the sins of the universe, in the same meaning as God is more precious than any of his creation.
Hmm. Um gonna keep this point noted about Christianity !! Thanks for the reply !
 

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If a Christian commits murder but believes in Jesus, will the sin be forgiven?

There is but 1 unforgivable sin. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit by not responding to His prompting and refusing to Accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

It doesn't matter what sin you list, THAT is the only unforgivable one. PLEEEEEASE, you are here by no accident. Accept Jesus and live!!!

Peace, Grace and Love to you In Jesus sweet Name I pray.
 
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Speaking of Easter, I figured out what that smell is. Rotten eggs. You don't want answers. You just want to run down the same lame list of stupid responses any non-thinking, illogical, attention-seeking SNERT can run down to see how long you can pull our chains. I give a certain amount of chain pulling, but that's it. You just ran out of chain.



Is this Jack?
The answer is easy if you take it logically.
Slip out the back Jack.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RTiyLuZOs1A
 
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Speaking of Easter, I figured out what that smell is. Rotten eggs. You don't want answers. You just want to run down the same lame list of stupid responses any non-thinking, illogical, attention-seeking SNERT can run down to see how long you can pull our chains. I give a certain amount of chain pulling, but that's it. You just ran out of chain.



Is this Jack?
My job here is not to accept as you tell me. I am drawing conclusions on which is the best religion or true religion. I am sorry if i am rude or keep on asking counter questions, that's my way. I ask my Muslim friend about his religion the same way, and he does not keep questioning my sincerity ! He just answers. I am having more of a debate. In debates counter questions are obvious. My Christian friend doesn't like to debate so i have to ask here.
 
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There is but 1 unforgivable sin. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit by not responding to His prompting and refusing to Accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

It doesn't matter what sin you list, THAT is the only unforgivable one. PLEEEEEASE, you are here by no accident. Accept Jesus and live!!!

Peace, Grace and Love to you In Jesus sweet Name I pray.
My Muslim tells me saying God had a son, is greatest blasphemy and Christians will be in hell for making One God to three ! (I messaged him your reply and that was his reply)

So u are saying not believing Jesus as son of God is blasphemy and he says if you say so, that's greatest blasphemy !!


I am not taking sides here but I guess I need to learn further about both. It's very astonishing to see both Christians & Muslims believe in Jesus but differ in who Jesus was !
 

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My Muslim tells me saying God had a son, is greatest blasphemy and Christians will be in hell for making One God to three ! (I messaged him your reply and that was his reply)

So u are saying not believing Jesus as son of God is blasphemy and he says if you say so, that's greatest blasphemy !!


I am not taking sides here but I guess I need to learn further about both. It's very astonishing to see both Christians & Muslims believe in Jesus but differ in who Jesus was !

Islam has its origin in the 7th century after Christ. Christianity is here from the days of Christ. I think its quite clear who got the teaching of Christ in its original meaning.
 
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Hey, if you want to serve your righteous sentence, go for it.

I'm not that foolish. I know a great deal when I see it.

But don't be so foolish to think you get off just because you think you have this one figured out better than God. Really? You're not going to take the deal on moral grounds? You're assuming you HAVE moral grounds! Stupid assumption!

(Sniff sniff.)
My point is why Someone else has be punished for your crimes, that's injustice.
 
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Islam has its origin in the 7th century after Christ. Christianity is here from the days of Christ. I think its quite clear who got the teaching of Christ in its original meaning.
My Muslim friend wants me to ask here, what the religion of Adam, Moses, Solomon, Noah was?
 

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My Muslim friend wants me to ask here, what the religion of Adam, Moses, Solomon, Noah was?
Adam and Noah - nonwritten personal messages from God
Moses and Solomon - written Law, now called "Old testament"

If I got right what you mean by the word "religion".
 
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My Muslim tells me saying God had a son, is greatest blasphemy and Christians will be in hell for making One God to three ! (I messaged him your reply and that was his reply)

So u are saying not believing Jesus as son of God is blasphemy and he says if you say so, that's greatest blasphemy !!


I am not taking sides here but I guess I need to learn further about both. It's very astonishing to see both Christians & Muslims believe in Jesus but differ in who Jesus was !
Matthew 4:4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 8:42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.

John 15:26 “When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me.

Genesis 1:31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

Exodus 16:12 “I have heard the grumbling of the Israelites. Tell them, ‘At twilight you will eat meat, and in the morning you will be filled with bread. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.’”

John 6:35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.

Matthew 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

1 John 2:16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world.