What does the Bible say about homosexuality...

[coby]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x7aUAHOW6Ss

 

[Magenta]

Truth is truth, sin is sin, hell and damnation real. The gospel is repentance, faith in Jesus Christ, that we must be born again, new creatures. Maybe it's about time somebody worried more about giving people the truth as to the horrific danger their souls are in, and worry less about their throats. I realize this doesn't wash with Joel Osteen, but I've always been more a fan of the whole gospel, that saves.

Amen . . . .

 

[Magenta]

At its crux, this is an identity issue. People accept a label and membership in a community, for support over something they can't control. A spiritual affliction propagated strategically by demons.

Homosexuality isn't truly about being attracted to the same gender. It's about being -dissonant-. It is sexual behavior as an expression of a great internal brokenness and dislocation. Like your leg breaks and fuses back together wrong, or your hip is dislocated and causes constant pain and is never mended. On a spiritual level people are numb, blind, and bound up, they can't see or feel all of what's wrong with them, but they feel enough and the wrongness manifests in their life. Homosexuality is about putting a label on this to validate it and normalize it and enable it, and to pretend it's not broken, because without God there is no solution, there is only pretense.

There is a spiritual agenda behind the spirits involved and how they use this. It tears at the symbols God gave us to grow society and family. It elevates the self as the determiner of truth and source of identity. It weaponizes the pain and torment stored up in these people as a radiant corrosive force on the moral fabric of society, an intractable problem which reacts violently in the spirit realm to anyone trying to stop its spread. It props up the humanistic ethics spirits that function like religious spirits.

Actual people bound in this aren't necessarily aware of how they're being used. I sympathize with believers who struggle with it, knowing it's wrong and not accepting it -- it is a deviously painful thing to be spiritually attacked with. So looking at someone who struggles with these sexual urges does not mean, looking at a participant in the agenda, even if their struggle is partly because of the agenda. Agenda isn't even the right word, it's more like a cultivated spiritual sickness, a channeled epidemic of the identity which the enemy is using like a 'biological weapon' against the church.

But it's all built on lies and pain, so it's self-defeating if we just connect to something better and abide in God. The Church's reaction to this in some cases is because we prefer dealing with it in our own knowledge instead of going to God and relating to everything from there... where the real power is.

I mean of course they're going to come up with all these terms and theories and ethics and ridiculousness because we aren't providing them the alternative. Throwing verses is not the same as loving someone. We need to look past the dissonance to the human spirit that needs God just like we need God. When we look at people in bondage to homosexuality, do we have hope for them, faith for them, love for them? Isn't that what's needed? I think what this all means is that we need to go to God and get more so we can give more and turn back the tide of brokenness.

Beautiful, brother, thank you so much for sharing your wisdom

 

[CS1]

I agree with what you said. I guess what I am trying to say is there are times that we should remain quiet because it isnt God that is directing us to speak but it is coming from our flesh.

oh yes I agree with you

 

[CS1]

If I were struggling with homosexual feelings I'd go here for help.

I think the issue of one struggling with homosexuality over what the bible says about it our two differnt things. The Answer to all sin is Jesus christ

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

We've been dealing with divorce for centuries. It's been a visible and dominant problem for centuries. We protest divorce like we protest other sins that have been dominant for human history...such as murder, theft, adultery, etc.

Fake marriage hasn't been nearly as big and visible an issue in the USA until that last 10-15 years. Whereas the battle against divorce/murder/theft is a longstanding battle, the battle against fake marriage is a new battle that has drawn attention. Unlike the other battles, there had been more of a chance of defeating fake marriage.

People protesting gay marriage because it's against traditional values. No. I protest fake marriage because, among other things, it is not supported by Scripture and because children should have the right to a male and female parent. Now that it has been redefined, what's to limit marriage to 2 people?

People protesting divorce because Jesus said it was wrong. No. This is deceptive. There are circumstances where Scripture allows for divorce.

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[kaylagrl]

I agree with what you said. I guess what I am trying to say is there are times that we should remain quiet because it isnt God that is directing us to speak but it is coming from our flesh.

Ive shared this before but since you are new I'll share it again. I use to travel with my family in ministry. One night my father began to preach on how homosexuality was wrong according to the Bible. When we finished the service there was an alter call, a young man came forward. Later he spoke to my father and said that he was about to have a sex change,he did not know what he was doing was wrong but he had given his life to the Lord that night. He said he was no longer going to have a sex change. Should my father have remained silent? Or preached the Word. Because he did the latter a young man gave his heart to the Lord that night. Its never wrong to speak the truth.

 

[coby]

We've been dealing with divorce for centuries. It's been a visible and dominant problem for centuries. We protest divorce like we protest other sins that have been dominant for human history...such as murder, theft, adultery, etc.

Fake marriage hasn't been nearly as big and visible an issue in the USA until that last 10-15 years. Whereas the battle against divorce/murder/theft is a longstanding battle, the battle against fake marriage is a new battle that has drawn attention. Unlike the other battles, there had been more of a chance of defeating fake marriage.

People protesting gay marriage because it's against traditional values. No. I protest fake marriage because, among other things, it is not supported by Scripture and because children should have the right to a male and female parent. Now that it has been redefined, what's to limit marriage to 2 people?

People protesting divorce because Jesus said it was wrong. No. This is deceptive. There are circumstances where Scripture allows for divorce.

And also circumstances where the Bible doesn't. Yet Herod could marry the wife of his brother if he lived now in the States and adopt kids and buy a lovely cake.

 

[Richard1976]

A spiritual affliction propagated strategically by demons.

I see the wisdom of your words.

 

[CS1]

The issue with the church is we have compensated the homosexual while suggesting it is love of God doing so. That is wrong.

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

If all the people that hate homosexuality so much and are utterly disgusted by it would hate all other sins equally, wow the church would be holy.

If I'm about to witness a man about to commit a murder and another man about to rob an elderly person, I'm going to be more concerned with the life than the robbery.

Because, while there is no such thing as a good smelling sin, there are sins that are planks and others that are specks. While all sins offend(James 2:10), they don't all equally offend(Matt 7:5).

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Revelation 1:3

Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.

When It comes to GOD,Is one sin worst than others?

When It comes to man,Is one sin worst than others?

 

[coby]

If I'm about to witness a man about to commit a murder and another man about to rob an elderly person, I'm going to be more concerned with the life than the robbery.

Because, while there is no such thing as a good smelling sin, there are sins that are planks and others that are specks. While all sins offend(James 2:10), they don't all equally offend(Matt 7:5).

It's all in the same row from Paul as outburst of anger. Herod's wife killed John the Baptist. That's much worse than the married to another man comedian we have here who would just live together if it wasn't legal.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

The issue with the church is we have compensated the homosexual while suggesting it is love of God doing so. That is wrong.

That Is because we are trying to tell GOD to judge one sin harsher than the other sin.

 

[coby]

If I'm about to witness a man about to commit a murder and another man about to rob an elderly person, I'm going to be more concerned with the life than the robbery.

Because, while there is no such thing as a good smelling sin, there are sins that are planks and others that are specks. While all sins offend(James 2:10), they don't all equally offend(Matt 7:5).

There are also heterosexuals who commit sodomy. I went to marriage counselling once. It was in the list of sins they had. They said: yeah we also think it's not good, but when a (married, christian) couple believes it's okay we say nothing.
Ehmmm double standard.

 

[Willie-T]

There are also heterosexuals who commit sodomy. I went to marriage counselling once. It was in the list of sins they had. They said: yeah we also think it's not good, but when a (married, christian) couple believes it's okay we say nothing.
Ehmmm double standard.

Just "Sola Missionary?"

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

We've been dealing with divorce for centuries. It's been a visible and dominant problem for centuries. We protest divorce like we protest other sins that have been dominant for human history...such as murder, theft, adultery, etc.

Fake marriage hasn't been nearly as big and visible an issue in the USA until that last 10-15 years. Whereas the battle against divorce/murder/theft is a longstanding battle, the battle against fake marriage is a new battle that has drawn attention. Unlike the other battles, there had been more of a chance of defeating fake marriage.

People protesting gay marriage because it's against traditional values. No. I protest fake marriage because, among other things, it is not supported by Scripture and because children should have the right to a male and female parent. Now that it has been redefined, what's to limit marriage to 2 people?

People protesting divorce because Jesus said it was wrong. No. This is deceptive. There are circumstances where Scripture allows for divorce.

And also circumstances where the Bible doesn't. Yet Herod could marry the wife of his brother if he lived now in the States and adopt kids and buy a lovely cake.

And also circumstances where the Bible doesn't. I indicated that there are circumstances where Scripture allows for divorce. That is not the same as saying "Scripture always allows for divorce". Scripture does oppose divorce, but there were circumstances where it was permitted.

He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way. And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” -Matt 19:8-9

 

[coby]

Just "Sola Missionary?"

Maybe people understand now why they say it's none of your business what we do.
Why are people so offended by them anyway? I do not want to know.

 

[coby]

And also circumstances where the Bible doesn't. I indicated that there are circumstances where Scripture allows for divorce. That is not the same as saying "Scripture always allows for divorce". Scripture does oppose divorce, but there were circumstances where it was permitted.

He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way. And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” -Matt 19:8-9

but it still was a nice pic, Michael Brown used it.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Wow! Lotta people interested in homosexuality here!

I'm outta here! May God's light shine through you all!

Peace.