What does the Bible say about homosexuality...
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Richard1976, when did you say "Jesus come into me and live in me by your Holy Spirit"? You say you were converted from birth in your profile. Dose that mean you went to church with your parents, and then to Sunday school, then church without them? Have you been baptised in water in the name of Jesus, God and His Holy Spirit.
Unless you have you will not understand what people are saying to you. It does not matter how big your letters are (which I presume means shouting), you will not get it, it will all sound like gobbledegook and as foolish as a baby gurgling to itself.
I mean no disrespect Richard1976, Find someone to lead you and Give Jesus a go.
Unless you have you will not understand what people are saying to you. It does not matter how big your letters are (which I presume means shouting), you will not get it, it will all sound like gobbledegook and as foolish as a baby gurgling to itself.
I mean no disrespect Richard1976, Find someone to lead you and Give Jesus a go.
[h=1]Ezekiel 34The Message (MSG)[/h][h=3]When the Sheep Get Scattered[/h]34 1-6 God’s Message came to me: “Son of man, prophesy against the shepherd-leaders of Israel. Yes, prophesy! Tell those shepherds, ‘God, the Master, says: Doom to you shepherds of Israel, feeding your own mouths! Aren’t shepherds supposed to feed sheep? You drink the milk, you make clothes from the wool, you roast the lambs, but you don’t feed the sheep. You don’t build up the weak ones, don’t heal the sick, don’t doctor the injured, don’t go after the strays, don’t look for the lost. You bully and badger them. And now they’re scattered every which way because there was no shepherd—scattered and easy pickings for wolves and coyotes. Scattered—my sheep!—exposed and vulnerable across mountains and hills. My sheep scattered all over the world, and no one out looking for them!
7-9 “‘Therefore, shepherds, listen to the Message of God: As sure as I am the living God—Decree of God, the Master—because my sheep have been turned into mere prey, into easy meals for wolves because you shepherds ignored them and only fed yourselves, listen to what God has to say:
10 “‘Watch out! I’m coming down on the shepherds and taking my sheep back. They’re fired as shepherds of my sheep. No more shepherds who just feed themselves! I’ll rescue my sheep from their greed. They’re not going to feed off my sheep any longer!
11-16 “‘God, the Master, says: From now on, I myself am the shepherd. I’m going looking for them. As shepherds go after their flocks when they get scattered, I’m going after my sheep. I’ll rescue them from all the places they’ve been scattered to in the storms. I’ll bring them back from foreign peoples, gather them from foreign countries, and bring them back to their home country. I’ll feed them on the mountains of Israel, along the streams, among their own people. I’ll lead them into lush pasture so they can roam the mountain pastures of Israel, graze at leisure, feed in the rich pastures on the mountains of Israel. And I myself will be the shepherd of my sheep. I myself will make sure they get plenty of rest. I’ll go after the lost, I’ll collect the strays, I’ll doctor the injured, I’ll build up the weak ones and oversee the strong ones so they’re not exploited.
17-19 “‘And as for you, my dear flock, I’m stepping in and judging between one sheep and another, between rams and goats. Aren’t you satisfied to feed in good pasture without taking over the whole place? Can’t you be satisfied to drink from the clear stream without muddying the water with your feet? Why do the rest of my sheep have to make do with grass that’s trampled down and water that’s been muddied?
20-22 “‘Therefore, God, the Master, says: I myself am stepping in and making things right between the plump sheep and the skinny sheep. Because you forced your way with shoulder and rump and butted at all the weaker animals with your horns till you scattered them all over the hills, I’ll come in and save my dear flock, no longer let them be pushed around. I’ll step in and set things right between one sheep and another.
23-24 “‘I’ll appoint one shepherd over them all: my servant David. He’ll feed them. He’ll be their shepherd. And I, God, will be their God. My servant David will be their prince. I, God, have spoken.
25-27 “‘I’ll make a covenant of peace with them. I’ll banish fierce animals from the country so the sheep can live safely in the wilderness and sleep in the forest. I’ll make them and everything around my hill a blessing. I’ll send down plenty of rain in season—showers of blessing! The trees in the orchards will bear fruit, the ground will produce, they’ll feel content and safe on their land, and they’ll realize that I am God when I break them out of their slavery and rescue them from their slave masters.
28-29 “‘No longer will they be exploited by outsiders and ravaged by fierce beasts. They’ll live safe and sound, fearless and free. I’ll give them rich gardens, lavish in vegetables—no more living half-starved, no longer taunted by outsiders.
30-31 “‘They’ll know, beyond doubting, that I, God, am their God, that I’m with them and that they, the people Israel, are my people. Decree ofGod, the Master:
You are my dear flock,
the flock of my pasture, my human flock,
And I am your God.
Decree of God, the Master.’”
7-9 “‘Therefore, shepherds, listen to the Message of God: As sure as I am the living God—Decree of God, the Master—because my sheep have been turned into mere prey, into easy meals for wolves because you shepherds ignored them and only fed yourselves, listen to what God has to say:
10 “‘Watch out! I’m coming down on the shepherds and taking my sheep back. They’re fired as shepherds of my sheep. No more shepherds who just feed themselves! I’ll rescue my sheep from their greed. They’re not going to feed off my sheep any longer!
11-16 “‘God, the Master, says: From now on, I myself am the shepherd. I’m going looking for them. As shepherds go after their flocks when they get scattered, I’m going after my sheep. I’ll rescue them from all the places they’ve been scattered to in the storms. I’ll bring them back from foreign peoples, gather them from foreign countries, and bring them back to their home country. I’ll feed them on the mountains of Israel, along the streams, among their own people. I’ll lead them into lush pasture so they can roam the mountain pastures of Israel, graze at leisure, feed in the rich pastures on the mountains of Israel. And I myself will be the shepherd of my sheep. I myself will make sure they get plenty of rest. I’ll go after the lost, I’ll collect the strays, I’ll doctor the injured, I’ll build up the weak ones and oversee the strong ones so they’re not exploited.
17-19 “‘And as for you, my dear flock, I’m stepping in and judging between one sheep and another, between rams and goats. Aren’t you satisfied to feed in good pasture without taking over the whole place? Can’t you be satisfied to drink from the clear stream without muddying the water with your feet? Why do the rest of my sheep have to make do with grass that’s trampled down and water that’s been muddied?
20-22 “‘Therefore, God, the Master, says: I myself am stepping in and making things right between the plump sheep and the skinny sheep. Because you forced your way with shoulder and rump and butted at all the weaker animals with your horns till you scattered them all over the hills, I’ll come in and save my dear flock, no longer let them be pushed around. I’ll step in and set things right between one sheep and another.
23-24 “‘I’ll appoint one shepherd over them all: my servant David. He’ll feed them. He’ll be their shepherd. And I, God, will be their God. My servant David will be their prince. I, God, have spoken.
25-27 “‘I’ll make a covenant of peace with them. I’ll banish fierce animals from the country so the sheep can live safely in the wilderness and sleep in the forest. I’ll make them and everything around my hill a blessing. I’ll send down plenty of rain in season—showers of blessing! The trees in the orchards will bear fruit, the ground will produce, they’ll feel content and safe on their land, and they’ll realize that I am God when I break them out of their slavery and rescue them from their slave masters.
28-29 “‘No longer will they be exploited by outsiders and ravaged by fierce beasts. They’ll live safe and sound, fearless and free. I’ll give them rich gardens, lavish in vegetables—no more living half-starved, no longer taunted by outsiders.
30-31 “‘They’ll know, beyond doubting, that I, God, am their God, that I’m with them and that they, the people Israel, are my people. Decree ofGod, the Master:
You are my dear flock,
the flock of my pasture, my human flock,
And I am your God.
Decree of God, the Master.’”
scripture! awesome!
hey what does this mean to you, and why do you think it's particularly relevant to post as a reply when you were asked a couple of direct questions by me & chaz?
you going to answer those questions?
i really wanted to know the answers to them, and i'm pretty sure chaz did too.
thanks.
um, dude i just helped out because you apparently didn't know what chaz was talking about.
not sure why being generally helpful makes you think i'm not Christian. (?)
what doctrine & testimony are you talking about there, anyway? i've publicly confessed Christ here thousands of times. more than happy to do it again
not sure why being generally helpful makes you think i'm not Christian. (?)
what doctrine & testimony are you talking about there, anyway? i've publicly confessed Christ here thousands of times. more than happy to do it again
here, i'll go first:
i grew up going to church/sunday-school, etc. my grandmother was a missionary. i've heard and known the gospel for as long as i remember.
one of my earliest memories is a dream i had when i was very young, and Jesus appeared to me in it, on the other side of a river. i wanted to be with Him. He held out a glass of something red ((that i assumed at the time was kool-aid lol --- i understand now it is His blood)) and said i had to drink this in order to cross the river. i told Him i was willing.
my profile says He knew me before i was formed in the womb. this doesn't mean i was saved before birth or at birth - it means He predestined me for His purpose, and that purpose is His salvation and redemption for me. He knew i would believe.
i asked Christ into my heart when i was about 14 or 15, at a summer camp.
later, at about 18, i asked Him to take over my life - i finally understood what surrendering myself meant.
i was baptized in H[SUB]2[/SUB]O as soon as i could be after the experience at camp. i knew He had already washed me, an immersed me in Him, immediately when i confessed to Him that i believed He was the door. i felt it then, and knew - i knew in my ignorant little way too, at the time, that i should make it public; i really wanted to let everyone know, and understood that H[SUB]2[/SUB]O baptism was the way to do that. His blood washed me the moment i believed; the H[SUB]2[/SUB]O was a symbol for everyone else; a public confession.
i died with Him. i live with Him. i am fully sanctified in Him and that process is being carried out throughout my earthly life as i'm being perfected and built into His Spiritual building.
Jesus Christ is Lord, the Son of the Living God, the Messiah, Mashiach, come to earth in flesh to die for our sins and raised again the third day, that whoever believes may live with Him. eternal life is to know Him, the only True God, and His Christ, who He sent.
okay! your turn!
ha! not your prerogative, sir.
why are you being all spiteful-like and hostile?
i would think, a Christian would love to share his testimony, but instead, you just reply with unfounded, unexplained accusations. what's up with that? isn't it written, if you deny Him before men.. but if you confess Him before men?
they are simple questions Richard, ones that a believer should be overjoyed to answer.
why are you being all spiteful-like and hostile?
i would think, a Christian would love to share his testimony, but instead, you just reply with unfounded, unexplained accusations. what's up with that? isn't it written, if you deny Him before men.. but if you confess Him before men?
they are simple questions Richard, ones that a believer should be overjoyed to answer.
