Beware Of The Trolls

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posthuman

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Maybe we need to pray for protection and wisdom, protection from those who would
try to destroy this work and wisdom to know when a person just wants answers.

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we definitely would all benefit by praying before we post, whether we're talking to a troll or to each other that we know are brothers & sisters. ive posted things i regret posting -- is there anyone here who really hasn't?
 

JosephsDreams

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I understand your intention because that is often mine as well even if it is misunderstood at times. I try really hard to understand others but know I do not always succeed, which saddens me, but I must accept that I cannot know everything, either, and the most important person for me to know and understand, second only to Jesus of course, is myself. Shakespeare said

This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.
Blain and Magenta, you guys really can't say anything 'wrong", or troll, because your hearts are always in the right place. Love covers...
 
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It should be fairly evident in a relatively short number of posts if we have a troll or not. I can't speak for anyone else, but if it becomes clear to me because of abusive or nonsense language or lack sincerity or overly aggressive replies, or a combination of all the above, I am not going to continue. First, my time is to valuable to me. Like all of us, I pray, read the word, have daily responsibilities and personal things I like to do.
Our task is to spread the word. Not convince anyone that they have to believe. BDF can be intellectually engaging, and fun, and sometimes even a entertaining place to exchange ideas, have some conversation, but when it becomes clear that the other person has no genuine interest in hearing us, or they become contentious, then God is not in it.
The BDF, at its ideal, is about edifying and building up.
The devil loves to keep us busy with things that are not about God.
For me, when the word and spirit of God is gone out of it, that is when it is time to move off that thread.
Hold up. Maybe it should be "fairly evident in a relatively short number of posts if we have a troll or not," but I distinctly remember you thinking someone was a troll on another's say-so, and that person was banned. I'm not saying you banned him, (I know you did not -- he banned himself by telling the truth to the mods), but it is very obvious it's not fairly evident in a relatively short number of posts.

And if this were true -- "but when it becomes clear that the other person has no genuine interest in hearing us, or they become contentious, then God is not in it" -- this forum would have maybe five people in it, and none of them would be you or me.
 
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Hold up. Maybe it should be "fairly evident in a relatively short number of posts if we have a troll or not," but I distinctly remember you thinking someone was a troll on another's say-so, and that person was banned. I'm not saying you banned him, (I know you did not -- he banned himself by telling the truth to the mods), but it is very obvious it's not fairly evident in a relatively short number of posts.

And if this were true -- "but when it becomes clear that the other person has no genuine interest in hearing us, or they become contentious, then God is not in it" -- this forum would have maybe five people in it, and none of them would be you or me.
Yeah, just me and four others. LOL
 

Magenta

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Blain and Magenta, you guys really can't say anything 'wrong", or troll, because your hearts are always in the right place. Love covers...
No, I am afraid that my heart is not always in the right place, and it is actually embarrassing for me when people compliment me, because I know that surely on some level you must all realize I am just as sick and twisted as everybody else. :p:D Truly I long for the time when sin has no hold on this world, and no more influence over how we see ourselves and treat each other :)
 
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troll
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument


I don't think I have ever trolled, if I have, I don't recall it.
You make valid points M., but outside of treating everyone with respect, which is something all Christians should do, even giving respect to our enemies, I think the issue is the integrity of the site, and how do we allocate our time/space resources.
I so hope the issue isn't the integrity of the site. If it is, that probably explains why I get frustrated so often on this site.
 

JosephsDreams

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Hold up. Maybe it should be "fairly evident in a relatively short number of posts if we have a troll or not," but I distinctly remember you thinking someone was a troll on another's say-so, and that person was banned. I'm not saying you banned him, (I know you did not -- he banned himself by telling the truth to the mods), but it is very obvious it's not fairly evident in a relatively short number of posts.

And if this were true -- "but when it becomes clear that the other person has no genuine interest in hearing us, or they become contentious, then God is not in it" -- this forum would have maybe five people in it, and none of them would be you or me.
Your such a trouble maker girl. :D Yeah, maybe I should have PM'ed him. I admitted that on the thread. But I was trying to open his eyes to something. I never accused him of being malicious. My intentions were to point out something to him in a way that would maybe, hopefully, jar him into seeing that how he was thinking was not beneficial to him, and also to some people on the thread. You have to admit, well, you don't have to have, but one of his posts was not appropriate. Or borderline inappropriate at best. One man to another, I was hoping to reel him in. If it was just a thread of us cave men, I would have told him to cool it, but not in the way I did. And I never wanted him banned (but you did just say that, I know). He got mad at me, i hope he still isn't. I should have PM'ed. I did what I thought was best at the time.
Unlike trolls who get outright abusive, nasty and confrontational. I think the situations were different enough that your comparing apples and oranges. You know, or at lease you I think you do, that when I said it should be obvious in a relatively short period of time, I am generalizing. It is not a scientific mathematical equation. Better to error the side of giving the benfit of the doubt. But come on Lynn, we all know if it looks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc.
 
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For what its worth, I have seen ppl here on CC called trolls for simply holding an opinion contrary to others. The Grace threads come to mind
 
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Maybe I have this wrong so do tell if you disagree, but I think people who are Christians
who have physiological issues, generally are agreeable and when their issues become
more pronounced, they seem to realise there is a problem.

Ive known a few on here in the past who have posted of their problems and when they have
not been well they have backed off for a while, or it has become evident. i have also seen
some people at church when they are struggling, but even at their worst episodes
you could still see Jesus in them.



But I have also seen people completely given over to Satan, they swear, blaspheme, curse,
some may even call them insane. It's strange though how such people cannot logically have
a normal conversation, but they are capable of reciting scripture, expounding it but at the
same time twisting and distorting it to mean all manner of awful twisted sick lies.
But ask them a simple everyday question like would you like a coffee and they can barely reply.
But ask them about the bible and suddenly their mouth just spews out vile twisted evil.
I really do think that is satanic in nature.



Then there every day normal people who look and sound perfectly normal, but mention
Jesus and it riles them, makes them angry. They may well be the typical troll character.
They are angry full stop, maybe they had a bad experience at church, maybe they are
gay, maybe they are just angry at life generally and blame God. But they are just as
capable of venting their frustrations out on Christian websites. Very rarely are they
looking for answers, they are just angry and want to take it out on someone.


There are also various other characters, the ones who troll for entertainment or as a
bet. The ones who think it's a game. The ones who want to look big etc.

Whatever ever the reason, Satan can use them all and does.


There is another type, where someone can appear to be a troll but get are just
looking for answers like why would God let this happen etc, they can come across
as being very bitter but yet here the come looking for answers.

Maybe we need to pray for protection and wisdom, protection from those who would
try to destroy this work and wisdom to know when a person just wants answers.

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One of the key symptoms of insanity is to have no idea you are insane. (I am a smart alex. I'm not being one now. I learned this recently because my Dad has gone insane.) So to try to decipher between sane and insane and then Christian and nonChristian would be impossible. There is no logic in their brains left to know, so no way we would know.

And that's the difference between mentally disabled and insane. Mentally disabled know there is something wrong.
 

Blain

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Blain and Magenta, you guys really can't say anything 'wrong", or troll, because your hearts are always in the right place. Love covers...
I don't think my heart is always in the right place but I trust God to form my heart to be like his own. I can say things wrong even with the purest heart and intentions because while i always say I always speak my heart and God is the words I sadly cannot say that he is always the words, but I have hope I trust him I continue to move forward trusting him regardless if I fall or mess up and that is why I know that one day his mind set his ways of thinking his ways of seeing how he feels everything that is his heart will be mine as well. I don't just want to be a good Christian I don't just want a love and relationship with him I seek a closeness a deep connection with him in which like marriage two beings become one mind and heart.
 

Blain

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For what its worth, I have seen ppl here on CC called trolls for simply holding an opinion contrary to others. The Grace threads come to mind
You disagree with my view and understanding of the scriptures and of the gospel Troll alert troll alert:b Oh the joy of the I am right and you are wrong attitude
 
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AuntieAnt

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Yeah, just me and four others. LOL
Well if you make the cut, I most certainly do, too Willie! LMHO!!! :rolleyes:


Yikes! Does this mean I should reduce my cat humorz?

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JosephsDreams

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One of the key symptoms of insanity is to have no idea you are insane. (I am a smart alex. I'm not being one now. I learned this recently because my Dad has gone insane.) So to try to decipher between sane and insane and then Christian and nonChristian would be impossible. There is no logic in their brains left to know, so no way we would know.

And that's the difference between mentally disabled and insane. Mentally disabled know there is something wrong.
Then I'm in trouble...
 

Magenta

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Miri

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Well after reading all the posts, maybe we can agree to stop posting
when the trolls become transparent, and try not to troll each other
in the process. Then we won't all go off our trolly. Lol
 
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jennymae

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Well after reading all the posts, maybe we can agree to stop posting
when the trolls become transparent, and try not to troll each other
in the process. Then we won't all go off our trolly. Lol
This was just too funny;)
 
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I first thought that guy from yesterday was mentally ill or something, but when he spouted such venom I had had enough. Mentally ill or not, sorry, but if you say you are a christian you can't hide behind a mask of poor me I'm mentally ill and the way he spoke I don't think he was. I've been in a mental institution where the people could behave really well, because everyone in Holland has to act normal, even the mentally ill. Act normal please. If they can, anyone can or they must be as demon posessed as the demoniac, but he wasn't posting on forums, he was walking naked through the graves.
You're the one who reminded me of his first post. It was no act. There is no mask. He is insane, unable to act or know he needs a mask. Demonic? I wouldn't be surprised. But, and then what do we do?
 

Magenta

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Well after reading all the posts, maybe we can agree to stop posting
when the trolls become transparent, and try not to troll each other
in the process. Then we won't all go off our trolly. Lol
Haha I like that, going off our trolly, like going off the rails. Seriously, I have seen some serious damage done by trolls, and that is what some real trolls hope to accomplish. They want to destroy our faith. They will use any means possible, and the internet just makes it easier for them. That is why we are to put on the full armour of God. It is much harder to psychologically shred someone when they are wearing the helmet of salvation :) From Ephesians 6:

13Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.16In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.17Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.18And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. 19Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel, 20for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may declare it fearlessly, as I should.