Similarities in Islam & Christianity

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-Islam-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islam
-Muhammad-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith

Believed by Muslims and Bahá'ís to be a messenger and prophet of God,
Muhammad is almost universally considered by Muslims as the last prophet
sent by God to mankind.

-Quran-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran
the central religious text of Islam,
which Muslims believe to be a revelation from God

Muslims believe the Quran was verbally revealed by God
to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel..

gradually over a period of approximately 23 years, beginning on 22 December 609 CE
when Muhammad was 40, and concluding in 632 CE, the year of his death

The earliest documented Christian knowledge of Muhammad stems from Byzantine sources.
They indicate that both Jews and Christians saw Muhammad as a "false prophet"
-and he is a false prophet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Muhammad


-Sharia law- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

Sharia Law is a significant source of legislation in various Muslim countries,
namely Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, Brunei, United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

There are two primary sources of sharia law: the precepts set forth in
the Quranic verses (ayat), and the example set by the Islamic prophet
Muhammad in the Sunnah

-(Sunni) and (Shia) Islam are the two major denominations of Islam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_schools_and_branches

Both Sunni and Shia Muslims share the most fundamental Islamic beliefs and
articles of faith. The differences between these two main sub-groups within
Islam initially stemmed not from spiritual differences, but political ones.

The division between Shia and Sunni dates back to the death of the Prophet Muhammad,
and the question of who was to take over the leadership of the Muslim nation.

Sunni Muslims agree with the position taken by many of the Prophet's companions,
that the new leader should be elected from among those capable of the job.

This is what was done, and the Prophet Muhammad's close friend and advisor,
Abu Bakr, became the first Caliph of the Islamic nation.

The word "Sunni" in Arabic comes from a word meaning "
one who follows the traditions of the Prophet."

-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunni_Islam
Sunni Islam (/'su?ni/ or /'s?ni/) is the largest branch of Islam

adherents are known as Sunni Muslims, Sunnis, and Sunnites.
Sunni Islam is the world's second largest religious body (after Christianity)[2]

and the largest religious denomination for any religion in the world. Sunni Islam
is sometimes referred to as the orthodox version of the religion

-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam

The Shia (/'?i??/; Arabic: ???? Shi?ah), or the Shiites (/'?i?a?ts/),
represent the second largest denomination of Islam.

Adherents of Shia Islam are called Shias or the Shi'a as a collective or Shi'i individually.

[1] Shi'a is the short form of the historic phrase Shi?atu ?Ali (???? ???)
meaning "followers", "faction" or "party" of

Muhammad's son-in-law and (cousin Ali), whom the Shia believe to be Muhammad's
successor in (the Caliphate)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate


-Twelver http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelver_Shia
The term Twelver refers to its adherents' belief in twelve divinely ordained leaders,
known as the Twelve Imams, and

their belief that the Mahdi will be the returned Twelfth Imam who disappeared and
is believed by Twelvers to be in occultation.
 
A couple posts back, #152; 9.31 states what you desire to see...


http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...arities-islam-christianity-8.html#post2558355

And they said the Jews flogged “allah's” Son with the utmost vehemence,and they said the Christians, The Messiah, “allah's” Son, this,their word with their mouths,they resemble Word whom they disbelieved from before,“allah”,he killed them,when they are turned away. They have taken their learned persons and their monks (as) lords from superior (to) “allah” and The Messiah, Mary's Son; and they commanded not except that they may worship one god, no god except He, glory be to Him from what they associate partners.(9.30 – 31)


None of this states that "Jesus Christ is God". This entire paragraph is a derogatory utterance against the Jews. It is a feeble attempt make Allah far superior to the God of the Jews and his Son who the Christians held to be the Messiah.

I suggest that rather than trying to twist the Koran into an acceptable source of God's word, you study it from the point of view of the Imams teaching it. They don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God, nor that Allah is the same God that Christians worship.
 
Islam is to Christianity, as oil is to water. They don't mix!
 
Islam is to Christianity, as oil is to water. They don't mix!
Light and darkness. The temple of Belial with Christ. No common ground and no concord between them.

2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
No.

It never claims to be inspired, thus, we should not expect that it is.

It does, however, repeatedly state that its source material, The Holy Bible, was inspired.






A more correct rendering of this ayah, with context…


وقالت اليهود عزير ابن الله وقالت النصرى

المسيح ابن الله ذلك قولهم بأفوههم يضهءون

قول الذين كفروا من قبل قتلهم الله أنى يؤفكون اتخذوا أحبارهم ورهبنهم أربابا من دون الله والمسيح ابن مريم وما أمروا إلا ليعبدوا إلها وحدا لا إله إلا هو سبحنه عما يشركون​

Waqalati alyahoodu AAuzayrun ibnu Allahi waqalati alnnasara almaseehu ibnu Allahi thalika qawluhum bi-afwahihim yudahi-oona qawla allatheena kafaroo min qablu qatalahumu Allahu anna yu/fakoona ittakhathoo ahbarahum waruhbanahum arbaban min dooni Allahi waalmaseeha ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahan wahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahu AAamma yushrikoona


And they said the Jews flogged “allah's” Son with the utmost vehemence,and they said the Christians, The Messiah, “allah's” Son, this,their word with their mouths,they resemble Word whom they disbelieved from before,“allah”,he killed them,when they are turned away. They have taken their learned persons and their monks (as) lords from superior (to) “allah” and The Messiah, Mary's Son; and they commanded not except that they may worship one god, no god except He, glory be to Him from what they associate partners.(9.30 – 31)



These ayat are merely wholesale copied from the Holy Bible….up to, and including, the proclamation that Jesus Christ is deity.

That's not right. Quran is strictly against our religion and the correct translation/more simple is here
Surah At-Tawbah - The Noble Qur'an - القرآن الكريم

They don't believe Jesus as God or son of God
 
I asked for the Koran address for this statement.

That would be what islam has taught them...however, the Koran maintains that Jesus Christ is God.

You gave me this.

108.2 So you pray to your Lord and Sacrifice.

This does not say that "Christ is God".

I would appreciate you complete list of Koran addresses where it states "Christ is God".

80% of what we believe is written here. They have a whole chapter on Mother Mary. This explains their stance on Jesus.

http://www.quranonline.net/html/trans/options/mkhl/2.html
 
Again: how does my providing information directly from a website prove I have done no other research into a particular subject? Please stop deflecting and answer the question.

agreed again... imo, proving a universal negative ("no research") is impossible.
 
King Abdullah’s Death Fulfills ‘End-Time Prophecies,’ Say Shiites

As Joel Rosenberg, former aide to Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said,

“n order to bring about this Islamic messiah, the Mahdi, the 12th imam,
Islamic leaders need to hasten his coming by destroying little Satan, Israel,
and the great Satan, the United States. …

[T]he leaders actually believe they need to create bloody carnage, the death of
millions of people in order to create the conditions for the Mahdi to bring peace.”

Most Twelvers are in Iran. The cia World Factbook says 90 to 95 percent of Iran’s
81 million people identify as Shiite, and around 85 percent of those adhere to Twelver Shiism.


Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the patriarch of Iran’s Islamic Revolution,
was a Twelver, as is Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the current supreme leader.

In 2012, Khamenei told the people of Iran: “We must prepare for the coming.
Since we consider ourselves the warriors of the 12th imam, we must fight.
Under the leadership of God, and with his invisible Power, we will restore
the glory of Islamic Civilization.”


Meanwhile, Iran’s centerfuges are spinning as the nation steadily works
toward the development of a nuclear arsenal.

Could some Shiites who believe that the death of King Abdullah is
a trigger to the return of Mahdi now be more motivated to stir up chaos?


King Abdullah’s Death Fulfills ‘End-Time Prophecies,’ Say Shiites.

Lol. Where do they get these jokes. Who knew the king will be that fat abdullat
 
Again...

How much research effort does it take to slavishly cut-n-paste others website material, verbatim, into this thread...?

Don't see any rules against it. Everyone does it here. She can post what she wants. She's posting truth ,how she does so is of no consequence to you.
 
Bowman is right in this. It's just copy paste

Last time I checked this site doesn't belong to Bowman and Magenta is free to post however she wishes. She's posting the truth and thats good enough for me. I dont care if her cat did the research.
 
I asked for the Koran address for this statement.

That would be what islam has taught them...however, the Koran maintains that Jesus Christ is God.

You gave me this.

108.2 So you pray to your Lord and Sacrifice.

This does not say that "Christ is God".

I would appreciate you complete list of Koran addresses where it states "Christ is God".

Previous link was wrong. This is the right one

Translation of Quran by Mohsin Khan and Taqi Al-Hilali - Surah (Chapter) 19. Maryam

It's clear they are different in what personally of Jesus is
 
Last time I checked this site doesn't belong to Bowman and Magenta is free to post however she wishes. She's posting the truth and thats good enough for me. I dont care if her cat did the research.

Cat did the research and u would consider that? No wonder how you approve any copy paste.
 
Cat did the research and u would consider that? No wonder how you approve any copy paste.


It was a joke. People copy and paste all the time here,everyone does. There are no rules against it and Magenta has the freedom to post as she likes. You can stop with the sarcasm,you will find it gets you banned here rather quickly. What Magenta has posted is the truth and this is a discussion forum,she's free to discuss as she likes. Same freedom you have,minus the nasty sarcasm. Since this is a Christian forum it would be nice if people at least acted Christlike.
 
Bowman is right in this. It's just copy paste
Last time I checked this site doesn't belong to Bowman and Magenta is free to post however she wishes. She's posting the truth and thats good enough for me. I dont care if her cat did the research.
Haha, my cat doing research? Well, the first charge (#157) was that no research is involved on my part. However, copying information from a website is not evidence that I have done no research into Islam. Then the second false accusation was added, that being that I plagiarized the material I posted. That too is false, since I gave the website address before I even pasted anything from them. Those are the facts that need to be addressed. I wonder if they will be? So far, no!
 
You just copy pasted alot of info just now?

What Christians say about Christianity matters much & what Muslims have to say about their religion carries weight but copy paste is just like me copying lies what anti Christian websites have to say. We need to argue on our own research rather than wasting time on such lengthy posts which is no research if their own.
 
What Christians say about Christianity matters much & what Muslims have to say about their religion carries weight but copy paste is just like me copying lies what anti Christian websites have to say. We need to argue on our own research rather than wasting time on such lengthy posts which is no research if their own.
Are you some kind of self appointed dictator telling people how
we must do things? Hmmm??? You are another false accuser.
 
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