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(Only two women could get such a chuckle out of this one.)

I think we both have the same sense of humour and are from the same
generation, which is worrying for me as I'm younger !
 
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I know the Bible says homosexuality is wrong but the Bible also says lots of other things are wrong. I feel like people spend a disproportionate amount of time obsessing over this one sin. I will be kind to them and pray for them. Maybe they will change or maybe they will not. . That's between them and God
When you read the scriptures about Sodom & Gomorrah homosexuality seems to be the only sin mentioned..... but knowing how sinners are (been one myself), there's never one sin, but many. The reason homosexuality is mentioned is 'cuz it's the predominate sin, the one being committed the most. Also, homosexuality is an abomination to God. While sin is sin, and any sin has its judgement, some sins have greater judgments than others.

The reason homosexuality is in the forefront today is simple: Satan is maximizing his efforts to bring God's judgment hot & heavy..... & it will be.

What other sin brought God's full destructive judgment? I don't know of any other.
 
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I know the Bible says homosexuality is wrong but the Bible also says lots of other things are wrong. I feel like people spend a disproportionate amount of time obsessing over this one sin. I will be kind to them and pray for them. Maybe they will change or maybe they will not. . That's between them and God
When you read the scriptures about Sodom & Gomorrah homosexuality seems to be the only sin mentioned..... but knowing how sinners are (been one myself), there's never one sin, but many. The reason homosexuality is mentioned is 'cuz it's the predominate sin, the one being committed the most. Also, homosexuality is an abomination to God. While sin is sin, and every sin has its judgement, some sins have greater judgments than others.

The reason homosexuality is in the forefront today is simple: Satan is maximizing his efforts to bring God's judgment hot & heavy..... & it will be.

What other sin brought God's full destructive judgment in the Bible? I don't know of any other.
 
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When you read the scriptures about Sodom & Gomorrah homosexuality seems to be the only sin mentioned..... but knowing how sinners are (been one myself), there's never one sin, but many. The reason homosexuality is mentioned is 'cuz it's the predominate sin, the one being committed the most. Also, homosexuality is an abomination to God. While sin is sin, and every sin has its judgement, some sins have greater judgments than others.

The reason homosexuality is in the forefront today is simple: Satan is maximizing his efforts to bring God's judgment hot & heavy..... & it will be.

What other sin brought God's full destructive judgment in the Bible? I don't know of any other.
It was not homosexuality. It was going after strange flesh. Men have no strange flesh. The kids went out too, the whole city, they wanted to group rape the angels.

Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

Another one:
the flood with the giants
 

Magenta

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It was not homosexuality. It was going after strange flesh. Men have no strange flesh.
The kids went out too, the whole city, they wanted to group rape the angels.

Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant,
overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
Yes, number two is what I have long maintained. Also, gang rape is not very hospitable...
 

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It was not homosexuality. It was going after strange flesh. Men have no strange flesh.
Sorry Coby2, but you're wrong on this.

It meant strange regarding their gender.

Strange for a man to lust for a man, and not a woman.
 
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coby2

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Sorry Coby2, but you're wrong on this.

It meant strange regarding their gender.

Strange for a man to lust for a man, and not a woman.
I think because they were angels and Jude says in the same way as before the flood when angels came to women that that is meant with strange flesh, otherwise it would just say unnatural I think like in Romans.

And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day,*7*just as,*(ὡς)*Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they*in the same way as,*(τὸν ὅμοιον τρόπον)*these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh (σαρκὸς ἑτέρας), are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.

gross immorality and going after strange flesh


in Dutch it says other flesh

Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another.
 

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When you read the scriptures about Sodom & Gomorrah homosexuality seems to be the only sin mentioned..... but knowing how sinners are (been one myself), there's never one sin, but many. The reason homosexuality is mentioned is 'cuz it's the predominate sin, the one being committed the most. Also, homosexuality is an abomination to God. While sin is sin, and any sin has its judgement, some sins have greater judgments than others.

The reason homosexuality is in the forefront today is simple: Satan is maximizing his efforts to bring God's judgment hot & heavy..... & it will be.

What other sin brought God's full destructive judgment? I don't know of any other.
Worshipping idols? When Moses was on the mountain?

Blatant lying about what you have given to God.. Ananias and Sapphira

Touching the Ark of the Covenant after being told not to...

There are probably more, but I'd have to research it a bit...
 
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I think because they were angels and Jude says in the same way as before the flood when angels came to women that that is meant with strange flesh, otherwise it would just say unnatural I think like in Romans.

And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day,*7*just as,*(ὡς)*Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they*in the same way as,*(τὸν ὅμοιον τρόπον)*these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh (σαρκὸς ἑτέρας), are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.

gross immorality and going after strange flesh


in Dutch it says other flesh

Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another.

You are incorrect. Note the scripture.....

Genesis 19:4-8 (NLT)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But before they retired for the night, all the men of Sodom, young and old, came from all over the city and surrounded the house. [SUP]5 [/SUP]They shouted to Lot, “Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!” [SUP]6 [/SUP]So Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him. [SUP]7 [/SUP]“Please, my brothers,” he begged, “don’t do such a wicked thing. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Look, I have two virgin daughters. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do with them as you wish. But please, leave these men alone, for they are my guests and are under my protection.”
 
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Worshipping idols? When Moses was on the mountain?

Blatant lying about what you have given to God.. Ananias and Sapphira

Touching the Ark of the Covenant after being told not to...

There are probably more, but I'd have to research it a bit...
While those are big, they don't hold a candle to two whole cities fully destroyed.
 

Magenta

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Worshipping idols? When Moses was on the mountain?
Blatant lying about what you have given to God.. Ananias and Sapphira
Touching the Ark of the Covenant after being told not to...
There are probably more, but I'd have to research it a bit...
I immediately thought about the valley of Achor:

Achor [N][H]trouble, a valley near Jericho, so called in consequence of the trouble which the sin of Achan caused Israel ( Joshua 7:24Joshua 7:26). The expression "valley of Achor" probably became proverbial for that which caused trouble, and when Isaiah ( Isaiah 65:10 ) refers to it he uses it in this sense: "The valley of Achor, a place for herds to lie down in;" i.e., that which had been a source of calamity would become a source of blessing. Hosea also ( Hosea 2:15 ) uses the expression in the same sense: "The valley of Achor for a door of hope;" i.e., trouble would be turned into joy, despair into hope. This valley has been identified with the Wady Kelt.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/achor/

 
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While those are big, they don't hold a candle to two whole cities fully destroyed.
He wanted to destroy all the Israelites with the golden calf and He wanted to destroy Nineve, but they repented. No idea what their sins were.
The Amorites

"It is not for your righteousness or for the uprightness of your heart that you are going to possess their land, but it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the Lord your God is driving them out before you, in order to confirm the oath which the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob," (Deut. 9:5).
 
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You are incorrect. Note the scripture.....

Genesis 19:4-8 (NLT)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But before they retired for the night, all the men of Sodom, young and old, came from all over the city and surrounded the house. [SUP]5 [/SUP]They shouted to Lot, “Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!” [SUP]6 [/SUP]So Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him. [SUP]7 [/SUP]“Please, my brothers,” he begged, “don’t do such a wicked thing. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Look, I have two virgin daughters. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do with them as you wish. But please, leave these men alone, for they are my guests and are under my protection.”
Why incorrect? They went after them. They were angels.
 

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Why incorrect? They went after them. They were angels.
The men of Sodom did not know that and I suspect that Lot did not either.

For the cause of Christ
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Magenta

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It is all idolatry. They are putting something, their lusts of the flesh
and the pride of life, before their submission to the ways of God.
 
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Anyone willing to step up to the plate?

vatican condones it, u.s.a. endorses it... Makes me wonder why... Quite honestly I am sick of having it thrown in my face and if not accepting of it, made to feel guilty.

Environmental causes of homosexuality Environmental causes of homosexuality


People doesn't know yet, that Homosexuality are not a choice by some, but then there are some that choose to be, but not all. There's toxins that is in our environment that is causing this ill effects in our society. Even the ones that has chosen that lifestyle has been affected by environmental pollution. Like most women that are in prison has chosen to live like that because their male partner has abandoned them for another while they are incarcerated; and so this has caused them to go off the deep end because of something that is not clicking up stairs. But the ones that are born in that condition has some type of hormonal imbalances going on in them while being developed. God had put more emphasis to them on what they should or should not eat, like Adam and Eve, He told them not to eat from the tree, and which eating from from this tree has caused them to have sexual desires towards one another. And so it is caused by something that we are inhaling or consuming that is causing the sudden increase and which genetic altered foods has becoming more popular on the shelves at the stores.

1 John 2:16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world.

https://youtu.be/KGqQV6ObFCQ
 
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Why incorrect? They went after them. They were angels.
You are incorrect. Note the scripture.....

Genesis 19:4-8 (NLT)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But before they retired for the night, all the men of Sodom, young and old, came from all over the city and surrounded the house. [SUP]5 [/SUP]They shouted to Lot, “Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!” [SUP]6 [/SUP]So Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him. [SUP]7 [/SUP]“Please, my brothers,” he begged, “don’t do such a wicked thing. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Look, I have two virgin daughters. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do with them as you wish. But please, leave these men alone, for they are my guests and are under my protection.”
They wanted the men, while refusing two virgin girls..... WHY is that so hard for you to understand?
 

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Why incorrect? They went after them. They were angels.
Note that before that event the Lord appeared to Abraham with two other beings, seen as three "men" who ate the meal under the tree. It's normal for the Bible to reveal angels as appearing to be men. The Lord announced he was going to witness the cause of the cry of great sin, then destroy the city if there were less than 10 righteous people in it (Gen 18). The Lord went along with Abraham's plea, not that the Lord was about to judge on the basis on too few righteous. Great sin had already evidenced itself.

Before the boys and men of Sodom desired the two "men" angels Lot hosted, the sentence against Sodom was already set. Then comes the abomination before God, even against the angels who were in fact the agents of destruction ordered by God, such as with the angels of judgment in Revelation. The sin of the men against them was sufficient evidence of the cause of the cry of sin that went up to the Lord. That then unleashed the immediate actual annihilation of the two cities the next morning, actually the plains they occupied, except the little nearby city Zoar that Lot asked for. Such severity was carried out in other events such as destruction of the city Ai, though the agent for that was the men of Israel.

From the book of Jonah we see that even then it would have been possible to spare the cities had some repentance occurred. Had there been only 10 repenting......Instead of repenting like the Ninevites, the city occupants persisted in their sin, the greatness of it exemplified in gross homosexuality, which resulted in the immediate deaths of all at Lot's door that very evening.
 
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When you read the scriptures about Sodom & Gomorrah homosexuality seems to be the only sin mentioned..... but knowing how sinners are (been one myself), there's never one sin, but many. The reason homosexuality is mentioned is 'cuz it's the predominate sin, the one being committed the most. Also, homosexuality is an abomination to God. While sin is sin, and every sin has its judgement, some sins have greater judgments than others.

The reason homosexuality is in the forefront today is simple: Satan is maximizing his efforts to bring God's judgment hot & heavy..... & it will be.

What other sin brought God's full destructive judgment in the Bible? I don't know of any other.
Not accepting Him as Messiah, Jerusalem destroyed.

Then He began to rebuke the cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not repent: 21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22 But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be[d] brought down to Hades; for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. 24 But I say to you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment than for you.”