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WHAT?
Seriously peter. WHERE DO YOU COME UP WITH THIS CRAP!! WHERE DID I EVER SAY THIS IS WHAT CARNALITY IS??
If your not going to listen to ANYTHING ANYONE SAYS, why are you even here?
This post is nonsense and not even worth responding to.
There is NO WAY ON GODS GREEN EARTH YOU CAN READ WHAT I SAID AND COME UP WITH THIS NONSENSE YOU JUST POSTED!!
Seriously peter. WHERE DO YOU COME UP WITH THIS CRAP!! WHERE DID I EVER SAY THIS IS WHAT CARNALITY IS??
If your not going to listen to ANYTHING ANYONE SAYS, why are you even here?
This post is nonsense and not even worth responding to.
There is NO WAY ON GODS GREEN EARTH YOU CAN READ WHAT I SAID AND COME UP WITH THIS NONSENSE YOU JUST POSTED!!
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What an interesting journey he leads us on! Never a dull day with God! 
God is so good to me ... us ...when we trust and obey, He shows us the merits and benefits of trusting and obeying.
Thanks for the support, brother ... blessed that God made you a companion on the narrow path with me.
God is so good to me ... us ...when we trust and obey, He shows us the merits and benefits of trusting and obeying.
Thanks for the support, brother ... blessed that God made you a companion on the narrow path with me.
Yes sis, thats why those who truly trust God will never walk away, They know were they came from, What God realy is and would never go back.
even if they tried, like the prodigal son, they would quickly realise what they are now missing, and return. Because God will confront them and show them how poor they now are.
I can relate to this completely. It struck me earlier in the week sin is all about illusion, this thing is so much better than what you have, you should do anything to get it, sacrifice all you know and it will be so much better in your life.
They asked people across society how much money would make them happy? And no matter the level of income the person had the answer was twice what they had.
So it is the desire or illusion of something better which is not real or confirmed and understood asks us to give up what we know and then the thing fails to be what we hoped. Many people have given up family, wife, friends, money, safety only to find what the got was not what they thought, and they destroyed the very thing they had which was very precious.
It appears to me many destroy the faith they experience for something they think is so much better, but fail to realise they have lost the original faith they began with.
I have met many christians who long for those early emotional experiences not realising they already have something so much more precious, maturity and the ability to share the love Jesus has brought to their heart, and walking in righteousness and purity, that so many would give anything to be able to do. Praise the Lord for His grace to us in sending Christ to be our Saviour.
They asked people across society how much money would make them happy? And no matter the level of income the person had the answer was twice what they had.
So it is the desire or illusion of something better which is not real or confirmed and understood asks us to give up what we know and then the thing fails to be what we hoped. Many people have given up family, wife, friends, money, safety only to find what the got was not what they thought, and they destroyed the very thing they had which was very precious.
It appears to me many destroy the faith they experience for something they think is so much better, but fail to realise they have lost the original faith they began with.
I have met many christians who long for those early emotional experiences not realising they already have something so much more precious, maturity and the ability to share the love Jesus has brought to their heart, and walking in righteousness and purity, that so many would give anything to be able to do. Praise the Lord for His grace to us in sending Christ to be our Saviour.
Obviously I hit a nerve. Self-centred behaviour
"Canality is self thinking, Sins of the flesh, It is putting self above others."
When you put yourself above others, and think only of your own desires, you are behaving and not considering the consequences. This is selfish behaviour.
Maybe you live in such a small world you do not realise the consequences of your actions.
I have wondered at who you were but this all makes it plain, not able to control what and how you say things, a man full of pride and wanting to abuse others on a whim.
"Canality is self thinking, Sins of the flesh, It is putting self above others."
When you put yourself above others, and think only of your own desires, you are behaving and not considering the consequences. This is selfish behaviour.
Maybe you live in such a small world you do not realise the consequences of your actions.
I have wondered at who you were but this all makes it plain, not able to control what and how you say things, a man full of pride and wanting to abuse others on a whim.
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No, I am trying to get you to open your eyes. I thought maybe large words would do it. I see your eyes are still closed.
Thats your opinion. It does not make it fact. Could you please stop trying to put words in peoples mouths.. It gets old..
Is this all you know how to do? Dude you have major issues.. You do not know how to read people. You twist what they say, then you attack them with silly nonsensical little comments like this.
Blah Blah Blah.
Your your own worse enemy.
Thats your opinion. It does not make it fact. Could you please stop trying to put words in peoples mouths.. It gets old..
Is this all you know how to do? Dude you have major issues.. You do not know how to read people. You twist what they say, then you attack them with silly nonsensical little comments like this.
Blah Blah Blah.
Your your own worse enemy.
Sin - actions which fulfill the desires of the heart but destroy the soul
Eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die
This came from the idea it does not matter what we do now because there are no consequences.
Lets just have a quickie affair, no one will know, you know you want to!
Stealing that car for a joy ride, the insurance will pay, so who cares?
Taking money from that bank, they have so much, they should spread it around.
That ***** should pay for what he did to me, I deserve it more than me.
All actions done not caring about the consequences to themselves or others.
I would say teachers who do not understand this reality do not deserve to be teachers.
Eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die
This came from the idea it does not matter what we do now because there are no consequences.
Lets just have a quickie affair, no one will know, you know you want to!
Stealing that car for a joy ride, the insurance will pay, so who cares?
Taking money from that bank, they have so much, they should spread it around.
That ***** should pay for what he did to me, I deserve it more than me.
All actions done not caring about the consequences to themselves or others.
I would say teachers who do not understand this reality do not deserve to be teachers.
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Peter denied Christ because he was afraid of what would happen to him.
He knew the consequences, thats why he ran when the crow struck three times.
People sin every day KNOWING THE CONSEQUENCES (ask the crunk who got drunk knowing he would have a painful hangove rthe next day, Or the driver who was drunk knowing he could kill someone.
People who try to limit sin to certain criteria should not be teachers.
He knew the consequences, thats why he ran when the crow struck three times.
People sin every day KNOWING THE CONSEQUENCES (ask the crunk who got drunk knowing he would have a painful hangove rthe next day, Or the driver who was drunk knowing he could kill someone.
People who try to limit sin to certain criteria should not be teachers.
This does make me laugh.
I was defining selfish behaviour, which may or may not be sinful. I was not defining sin.
EG - using large case letters, swearing about what I am saying is definately loosing it. But deny it is as you want, does not change reality.
Selfish behaviour is about thinking about oneself, usually at the cost of others, though this is not necessarily true.
When I get food for myself I am only thinking about my need. That is not sinful.
Peters sin was not about thinking about himself, it was denying association with Jesus. The sin was the denial, the reason he may have done it was because he was scared of being attacked and locked up as well, but that was not his sin.
People can feel and think these same thoughts, and yet not deny Christ. From another perspective, his denial was without thinking what Jesus would think or even that Jesus had said this would happen. He had no consideration of the real relationship context with Christ. But at that point he was unsure what everything was really, it was all so new and not heroic like he imagined.
And you EG are so aggressive and confrontational. You claim to know me and all I believe yet you seem unable to handle the basics. Maybe you do not know as much as you claim or are as confident as you want to appear.
I was defining selfish behaviour, which may or may not be sinful. I was not defining sin.
EG - using large case letters, swearing about what I am saying is definately loosing it. But deny it is as you want, does not change reality.
Selfish behaviour is about thinking about oneself, usually at the cost of others, though this is not necessarily true.
When I get food for myself I am only thinking about my need. That is not sinful.
Peters sin was not about thinking about himself, it was denying association with Jesus. The sin was the denial, the reason he may have done it was because he was scared of being attacked and locked up as well, but that was not his sin.
People can feel and think these same thoughts, and yet not deny Christ. From another perspective, his denial was without thinking what Jesus would think or even that Jesus had said this would happen. He had no consideration of the real relationship context with Christ. But at that point he was unsure what everything was really, it was all so new and not heroic like he imagined.
And you EG are so aggressive and confrontational. You claim to know me and all I believe yet you seem unable to handle the basics. Maybe you do not know as much as you claim or are as confident as you want to appear.
What still sticks in my mind is Bens KO statement.
My focus is simple, which I want to encourage you all in, walking in love and righteousness.
Love is the powerhouse, the Holy Spirit is our guide, Jesus is our Lord.
I was reading in Hebrews 9 about our consciences being washed clean by the blood of Jesus.
The whole language is one of changed thought life, changed actions empowered by a cleansed heart.
Now some condemn me saying I cannot have achieved this, but scripture clearly says we can.
Another are looking for sin to undermine my victory but fail.
A third want to say I have to believe this or that or else I am a liar.
Now where is the brother and sister who also walks in victory, who has been transformed and found love dwells in their heart. Is this world of faith so barren, all we have is defeated believers who are condemned daily to failure and cannot even keep things on track for part of a day?
My son aged 8 was challenged to behave for 3 hours and we would give him some money.
He honestly said, he could not do it.
Now some here have been christian many many years but seem to little understand sin, have victory over it or have love beating within through the darkness.
Jesus said my way is easy, and my burden is light. I am not sure the people here are testifying they know what this means.
My focus is simple, which I want to encourage you all in, walking in love and righteousness.
Love is the powerhouse, the Holy Spirit is our guide, Jesus is our Lord.
I was reading in Hebrews 9 about our consciences being washed clean by the blood of Jesus.
The whole language is one of changed thought life, changed actions empowered by a cleansed heart.
Now some condemn me saying I cannot have achieved this, but scripture clearly says we can.
Another are looking for sin to undermine my victory but fail.
A third want to say I have to believe this or that or else I am a liar.
Now where is the brother and sister who also walks in victory, who has been transformed and found love dwells in their heart. Is this world of faith so barren, all we have is defeated believers who are condemned daily to failure and cannot even keep things on track for part of a day?
My son aged 8 was challenged to behave for 3 hours and we would give him some money.
He honestly said, he could not do it.
Now some here have been christian many many years but seem to little understand sin, have victory over it or have love beating within through the darkness.
Jesus said my way is easy, and my burden is light. I am not sure the people here are testifying they know what this means.
It’s interesting we are commanded by God to study to show one approved unto Him as a worker not ashamed of the gospel of Christ. And in order to do so we need his instruction as to how we can seek that approval and not the approval of men. iI would seem we have bible studies but are rather studying the private interpretation (personal commentaries) of each other and in a sense leave God out of the process.
I have been interested in studying; “How we can hear God by faith (the unseen) according to his interpretation laws”?. Like the one below that defines the faith principle.
Without those studying instructions many mysteries would remain unknown. In order to seek after his approval we must understand who he is and how we do hear him alone.
2Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Another for instance,. We know Christ who is the word of God said without parable he spoke not to the multitude, which is everyone that heard his voice. He has hidden or concealed the spiritual meaning from some while giving it to others.
Matthew 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Parables are used throughout scripture in that way. So to search as for silver or gold could help us with some portions of scripture that seem out of place. Lie to the phrase “drink blood’. To drink literal blood is an abomination it was required to be poured out so that it could return to the lifeless spiritless dust it was taken from . The spiritual understanding comes if we mix faith (the unseen) in what we do hear.
Not handling the word of God in respect to the different teaching precepts can show the gospel is hid by the father of lies who blinds the minds of the unbelievers (no faith)
But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, (no faith) lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them2Co 4:2
Interesting the word proverb comes from the same Hebrew word for parable. In that way proverbs are parables that used for our instructions for finding His truth.
The parable/ proverb I am offering below speaks to the very issue of hiding the spiritual meaning to a kingdom of priest which today represents all believers. Like the noble Bareans who being promoted by God searched the scriptures to see if what Paul was offering came as a doctrine of God from heaven.
Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
I have been interested in studying; “How we can hear God by faith (the unseen) according to his interpretation laws”?. Like the one below that defines the faith principle.
Without those studying instructions many mysteries would remain unknown. In order to seek after his approval we must understand who he is and how we do hear him alone.
2Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Another for instance,. We know Christ who is the word of God said without parable he spoke not to the multitude, which is everyone that heard his voice. He has hidden or concealed the spiritual meaning from some while giving it to others.
Matthew 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Parables are used throughout scripture in that way. So to search as for silver or gold could help us with some portions of scripture that seem out of place. Lie to the phrase “drink blood’. To drink literal blood is an abomination it was required to be poured out so that it could return to the lifeless spiritless dust it was taken from . The spiritual understanding comes if we mix faith (the unseen) in what we do hear.
Not handling the word of God in respect to the different teaching precepts can show the gospel is hid by the father of lies who blinds the minds of the unbelievers (no faith)
But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, (no faith) lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them2Co 4:2
Interesting the word proverb comes from the same Hebrew word for parable. In that way proverbs are parables that used for our instructions for finding His truth.
The parable/ proverb I am offering below speaks to the very issue of hiding the spiritual meaning to a kingdom of priest which today represents all believers. Like the noble Bareans who being promoted by God searched the scriptures to see if what Paul was offering came as a doctrine of God from heaven.
Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
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Give it up Peter. You just proved you have watered down Gods law. Selfish behavior may not be sin? No wonder you think you are righteous, and feel no remorse about judging others.
News flash peter. ALL sin is caused from carnal thoughts (selfish behavior) you can not name one sin which did not start from thinking of self. and putting self above others. You can even obey Gods commands, from a selfish desire, and it is sin. Because you did not do it out of love, Anythign not done out of love, is done with self in mind.
Now. Please. stop trying to think you have a better understanding of sin that grace people. like paul in romans 7. Because you do not. And if you try to put your view of what sin is against thers, you will see their list is most likely twice as large as yours.
You can't handle that fact that anything done in self is sin. That is the most basic aspect of the word of God.. to say otherwise is to excuse sin, and water down the law.
So please. you need to start looking in a mirror. before you continue to judge others
Oh and I am so aggressive I can't handle the basics?
That is not the problem here Peter. The problem is you are so bent on proving yourself right and everyone else wrong, You can not even see what your doing.
News flash peter. ALL sin is caused from carnal thoughts (selfish behavior) you can not name one sin which did not start from thinking of self. and putting self above others. You can even obey Gods commands, from a selfish desire, and it is sin. Because you did not do it out of love, Anythign not done out of love, is done with self in mind.
Now. Please. stop trying to think you have a better understanding of sin that grace people. like paul in romans 7. Because you do not. And if you try to put your view of what sin is against thers, you will see their list is most likely twice as large as yours.
You can't handle that fact that anything done in self is sin. That is the most basic aspect of the word of God.. to say otherwise is to excuse sin, and water down the law.
So please. you need to start looking in a mirror. before you continue to judge others
Oh and I am so aggressive I can't handle the basics?
That is not the problem here Peter. The problem is you are so bent on proving yourself right and everyone else wrong, You can not even see what your doing.
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romans 3: 23. For ALL have sinned and fall short (literally in the greek missed the mark) of the glory of God.
Tell us, peter and all you people who think salvation can be lost. What is Gods mark. What does God constitute as the mark which causes us to fall short of Gods glory. and causes us to be called sinners?
Tell us, peter and all you people who think salvation can be lost. What is Gods mark. What does God constitute as the mark which causes us to fall short of Gods glory. and causes us to be called sinners?
This is gibberish. Everything you ever experience is only your self experiencing it, everything. You are forever you.
If you agree, speak, think, eat, sleep, walk, listen, feel, sing, dance, it is all you.
When you praise it is you, when you curse it is you.
So by saying doing anything in self is sin, you have just condemned yourself eternally to destruction.
Now a good act is something done to help another. But the act is still done by oneself or it is not your act.
If you hold faith, it is your faith. So this idea is just insane, it undermines all morality or anything that is what life is.
It is why you are blind, deaf and dumb. But because you are always you and you literally refuse to listen to anything else you will always stay this way until you meet the Lord and have His judgement on your lack of love and humbleness before His word.
If you agree, speak, think, eat, sleep, walk, listen, feel, sing, dance, it is all you.
When you praise it is you, when you curse it is you.
So by saying doing anything in self is sin, you have just condemned yourself eternally to destruction.
Now a good act is something done to help another. But the act is still done by oneself or it is not your act.
If you hold faith, it is your faith. So this idea is just insane, it undermines all morality or anything that is what life is.
It is why you are blind, deaf and dumb. But because you are always you and you literally refuse to listen to anything else you will always stay this way until you meet the Lord and have His judgement on your lack of love and humbleness before His word.
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