When Is The Actual Sabbath?
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The Sabbath day is sunset Friday to sunset Saturday. In many, many languages the name for Saturday is some forth of "Sabbath". It has not changed; ask the Jews who have been keeping the same day for thousands of years faithfully.
The scripture has no suggestion that the day has ever changed. The Sabbath is the Lord's day, and Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. For this reason, I observe the Bible Sabbath rather than the Roman Sunday. See Romes Challenge for a Bible study on the Sabbath from a Catholic Cardinal who suggests that protestants either keep Saturday like the Bible says or submit to the authority of the Roman Church.
The scripture has no suggestion that the day has ever changed. The Sabbath is the Lord's day, and Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. For this reason, I observe the Bible Sabbath rather than the Roman Sunday. See Romes Challenge for a Bible study on the Sabbath from a Catholic Cardinal who suggests that protestants either keep Saturday like the Bible says or submit to the authority of the Roman Church.
Does God care ?
Both houses of Israel were sent into national punishment and banishment
from the Holy Land because they broke God’s Sabbath(s)!
(Jeremiah 29:10), many of the house of Judah returned to the Holy Land
to rebuild the temple, and restore the worship there
The Prophet Nehemiah tells why they had been driven into captive slavery
70 years before (Nehemiah 13:15-18).
The house of Judah was without excuse. They had been warned by the prophets.
“Thus saith the Eternal; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day
neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers…
(Jeremiah 17:21-22, 27).
The house of Judah did not heed it.And burned the house of the Eternal, and the king’s house;
and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire”
(Jeremiah 52:12-13)
WHY Israel Defeated in Leviticus 26: “Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image
to bow down unto it: for I am the Eternal your God. Ye shall keep my sabbaths,
and reverence my sanctuary: I am the Eternal” (verses 1-2).
God promised abundant production and wealth, national peace, and national dominance
that would have led to world dominance (verses 3-13).
But, said God (verses 14-33), if they refused to obey those commandments,
they would suffer sickness and disease, and driven from their land as slaves
to their enemies’ lands.
God made a special eternally binding covenant with them involving the Sabbath
(Exodus 31:12-17). The Sabbath was made the national sign by which the true God
would be identified and known to them, and by which they were to be identified as His people.
After the division into two nations—when the kingdom of Israel made Jeroboam
their king, the first thing this king did was introduce idolatry and Sabbath-breaking.
Ezekiel was given a message from God to the house of Israel(Ezekiel 3:1).
God says, in Ezekiel 20: “Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt,
and brought them into the wilderness. And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them
my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.
Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them,
that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them” (verses 10-12).
“But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness:
they walked not in MY statutes, and they despised MY judgments?…?
and MY sabbaths they greatly polluted?…” (verse 13).
Then God pleaded with their children, a generation later. Notice!
“But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of
your fathers, neither observe THEIR judgments, nor defile yourselves with THEIR idols:
I am the Eternal your God; walk in MY statutes, and keep MY judgments, and do them;
And hallow MY sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you,
that ye may know that I am the Eternal your God” (verses 18-20).
The entire emphasis here is between God’s statutes, judgments and Sabbaths
on the one hand, and their FATHERS’ different sabbaths, statutes and judgments.
the children rebelled against me,” continued God, through the Prophet Ezekiel.
“[T]hey polluted MY sabbaths?…” (verse 21).
He scattered them, in national captivity and slavery (verse 23).
“Because they had not executed MY judgments, but had despised MY statutes,
and had polluted MY sabbaths, and their eyes were after their FATHERS’ idols”
“And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries
wherein ye are scattered?…?with fury poured out. And I will bring you into
the wilderness of the people [coming exodus—Jeremiah 23:7-8],
and there will I plead with you face to face” (Ezekiel 20:34-35).
“Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt,
SO will I plead with you, saith the Lord God?.… And I will purge out from
among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me..
and YE shall know that I am the Lord” (verses 36-38).
43And there shall ye remember your ways, and all your doings, wherein
ye have been defiled; and ye shall lothe yourselves in your own sight
for all your evils that ye have committed.
44And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have wrought with you for
my name's sake, not according to your wicked ways, nor according to your
corrupt doings, O ye house of Israel, saith the Lord God.
He says our people, when they are no longer rebellious, who will then be
keeping His Sabbath, shall remember their ways in which they were defiled,
and shall loathe themselves for their Sabbath-breaking!
-
They were removed out of their land. “For the children of Israel walked in
all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them;
Until the Lord removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the
prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day”
(2 Kings 17:22-23).
21For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king:
and Jeroboam drave Israel from following the Lord, and made them sin a great sin.
For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did;
they departed not from them; 1 Kings 15:30 (KJV)
Because of the sins of Jeroboam which he sinned, and which he made Israel sin,
by his provocation wherewith he provoked the Lord God of Israel to anger.
1 Kings 14:16 (KJV)
And he shall give Israel up because of the sins of Jeroboam, who did sin,
and who made Israel to sin.
Isreal became slaves, then lost to the world, dispersed with there captures.
by deforce, becoming the lost 10 tribes,
15Though thou, Israel, play the harlot, yet let not Judah offend;
-130 year after Isreal lost to the world and long gone,
Judah does not listen and goes captive too.
that faithless one, Israel, how she played the harlot
[A]nd her false sister Judah saw it. She saw that for
all the adulteries of that faithless one, Israel,
I had sent her away with a decree of divorce;
yet her false sister Judah did not fear, but she too went and played the harlot also.
And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery
I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah
feared not,but went and played the harlot also. Jeremiah 3:8 (KJV)
I will remove Judah also out of my sight, as I have removed Israel,
and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen,
and the house of which I said, My name shall be there” (2 Kings 23:27).
Jeroboam changed the fall Sabbath feasts from the 7th month to the 8th month,
it is also implyed that they changed the sabbath to the first day of week at this time.
so Does it matter to God about [his convocations] ?
“And I will wait upon the Lord, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob(sinful Isreal)
Isaiah 8:17: God is now hidding his face from them, striped of name, heritage, idenity,
and for Davids sake and Gods Holy name do we even see the so. tribe of Judah.
all because of sabbaths breaking, which to God is idoltry
Both houses of Israel were sent into national punishment and banishment
from the Holy Land because they broke God’s Sabbath(s)!
(Jeremiah 29:10), many of the house of Judah returned to the Holy Land
to rebuild the temple, and restore the worship there
The Prophet Nehemiah tells why they had been driven into captive slavery
70 years before (Nehemiah 13:15-18).
The house of Judah was without excuse. They had been warned by the prophets.
“Thus saith the Eternal; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day
neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers…
(Jeremiah 17:21-22, 27).
The house of Judah did not heed it.And burned the house of the Eternal, and the king’s house;
and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire”
(Jeremiah 52:12-13)
WHY Israel Defeated in Leviticus 26: “Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image
to bow down unto it: for I am the Eternal your God. Ye shall keep my sabbaths,
and reverence my sanctuary: I am the Eternal” (verses 1-2).
God promised abundant production and wealth, national peace, and national dominance
that would have led to world dominance (verses 3-13).
But, said God (verses 14-33), if they refused to obey those commandments,
they would suffer sickness and disease, and driven from their land as slaves
to their enemies’ lands.
God made a special eternally binding covenant with them involving the Sabbath
(Exodus 31:12-17). The Sabbath was made the national sign by which the true God
would be identified and known to them, and by which they were to be identified as His people.
After the division into two nations—when the kingdom of Israel made Jeroboam
their king, the first thing this king did was introduce idolatry and Sabbath-breaking.
Ezekiel was given a message from God to the house of Israel(Ezekiel 3:1).
God says, in Ezekiel 20: “Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt,
and brought them into the wilderness. And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them
my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.
Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them,
that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them” (verses 10-12).
“But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness:
they walked not in MY statutes, and they despised MY judgments?…?
and MY sabbaths they greatly polluted?…” (verse 13).
Then God pleaded with their children, a generation later. Notice!
“But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of
your fathers, neither observe THEIR judgments, nor defile yourselves with THEIR idols:
I am the Eternal your God; walk in MY statutes, and keep MY judgments, and do them;
And hallow MY sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you,
that ye may know that I am the Eternal your God” (verses 18-20).
The entire emphasis here is between God’s statutes, judgments and Sabbaths
on the one hand, and their FATHERS’ different sabbaths, statutes and judgments.
the children rebelled against me,” continued God, through the Prophet Ezekiel.
“[T]hey polluted MY sabbaths?…” (verse 21).
He scattered them, in national captivity and slavery (verse 23).
“Because they had not executed MY judgments, but had despised MY statutes,
and had polluted MY sabbaths, and their eyes were after their FATHERS’ idols”
“And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries
wherein ye are scattered?…?with fury poured out. And I will bring you into
the wilderness of the people [coming exodus—Jeremiah 23:7-8],
and there will I plead with you face to face” (Ezekiel 20:34-35).
“Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt,
SO will I plead with you, saith the Lord God?.… And I will purge out from
among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me..
and YE shall know that I am the Lord” (verses 36-38).
43And there shall ye remember your ways, and all your doings, wherein
ye have been defiled; and ye shall lothe yourselves in your own sight
for all your evils that ye have committed.
44And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have wrought with you for
my name's sake, not according to your wicked ways, nor according to your
corrupt doings, O ye house of Israel, saith the Lord God.
He says our people, when they are no longer rebellious, who will then be
keeping His Sabbath, shall remember their ways in which they were defiled,
and shall loathe themselves for their Sabbath-breaking!
-
They were removed out of their land. “For the children of Israel walked in
all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them;
Until the Lord removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the
prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day”
(2 Kings 17:22-23).
21For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king:
and Jeroboam drave Israel from following the Lord, and made them sin a great sin.
For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did;
they departed not from them; 1 Kings 15:30 (KJV)
Because of the sins of Jeroboam which he sinned, and which he made Israel sin,
by his provocation wherewith he provoked the Lord God of Israel to anger.
1 Kings 14:16 (KJV)
And he shall give Israel up because of the sins of Jeroboam, who did sin,
and who made Israel to sin.
Isreal became slaves, then lost to the world, dispersed with there captures.
by deforce, becoming the lost 10 tribes,
15Though thou, Israel, play the harlot, yet let not Judah offend;
-130 year after Isreal lost to the world and long gone,
Judah does not listen and goes captive too.
that faithless one, Israel, how she played the harlot
[A]nd her false sister Judah saw it. She saw that for
all the adulteries of that faithless one, Israel,
I had sent her away with a decree of divorce;
yet her false sister Judah did not fear, but she too went and played the harlot also.
And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery
I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah
feared not,but went and played the harlot also. Jeremiah 3:8 (KJV)
I will remove Judah also out of my sight, as I have removed Israel,
and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen,
and the house of which I said, My name shall be there” (2 Kings 23:27).
Jeroboam changed the fall Sabbath feasts from the 7th month to the 8th month,
it is also implyed that they changed the sabbath to the first day of week at this time.
so Does it matter to God about [his convocations] ?
“And I will wait upon the Lord, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob(sinful Isreal)
Isaiah 8:17: God is now hidding his face from them, striped of name, heritage, idenity,
and for Davids sake and Gods Holy name do we even see the so. tribe of Judah.
all because of sabbaths breaking, which to God is idoltry
Does God care ?
Both houses of Israel were sent into national punishment and banishment
from the Holy Land because they broke God’s Sabbath(s)!
(Jeremiah 29:10), many of the house of Judah returned to the Holy Land
to rebuild the temple, and restore the worship there
The Prophet Nehemiah tells why they had been driven into captive slavery
70 years before
Nehemiah 13:15-18).
The house of Judah was without excuse. They had been warned by the prophets.
“Thus saith the Eternal; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day
neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers…
(Jeremiah 17:21-22, 27).
The house of Judah did not heed it.And burned the house of the Eternal, and the king’s house;
and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire”
(Jeremiah 52:12-13)
WHY Israel Defeated in Leviticus 26: “Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image
to bow down unto it: for I am the Eternal your God. Ye shall keep my sabbaths,
and reverence my sanctuary: I am the Eternal” (verses 1-2).
God promised abundant production and wealth, national peace, and national dominance
that would have led to world dominance (verses 3-13).
But, said God (verses 14-33), if they refused to obey those commandments,
they would suffer sickness and disease, and driven from their land as slaves
to their enemies’ lands.
God made a special eternally binding covenant with them involving the Sabbath
(Exodus 31:12-17). The Sabbath was made the national sign by which the true God
would be identified and known to them, and by which they were to be identified as His people.
After the division into two nations—when the kingdom of Israel made Jeroboam
their king, the first thing this king did was introduce idolatry and Sabbath-breaking.
Ezekiel was given a message from God to the house of Israel(Ezekiel 3:1).
God says, in Ezekiel 20: “Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt,
and brought them into the wilderness. And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them
my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.
Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them,
that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them” (verses 10-12).
“But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness:
they walked not in MY statutes, and they despised MY judgments?…?
and MY sabbaths they greatly polluted?…” (verse 13).
Then God pleaded with their children, a generation later. Notice!
“But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of
your fathers, neither observe THEIR judgments, nor defile yourselves with THEIR idols:
I am the Eternal your God; walk in MY statutes, and keep MY judgments, and do them;
And hallow MY sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you,
that ye may know that I am the Eternal your God” (verses 18-20).
The entire emphasis here is between God’s statutes, judgments and Sabbaths
on the one hand, and their FATHERS’ different sabbaths, statutes and judgments.
the children rebelled against me,” continued God, through the Prophet Ezekiel.
“[T]hey polluted MY sabbaths?…” (verse 21).
He scattered them, in national captivity and slavery (verse 23).
“Because they had not executed MY judgments, but had despised MY statutes,
and had polluted MY sabbaths, and their eyes were after their FATHERS’ idols”
“And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries
wherein ye are scattered?…?with fury poured out. And I will bring you into
the wilderness of the people [coming exodus—Jeremiah 23:7-8],
and there will I plead with you face to face” (Ezekiel 20:34-35).
“Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt,
SO will I plead with you, saith the Lord God?.… And I will purge out from
among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me..
and YE shall know that I am the Lord” (verses 36-38).
43And there shall ye remember your ways, and all your doings, wherein
ye have been defiled; and ye shall lothe yourselves in your own sight
for all your evils that ye have committed.
44And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have wrought with you for
my name's sake, not according to your wicked ways, nor according to your
corrupt doings, O ye house of Israel, saith the Lord God.
He says our people, when they are no longer rebellious, who will then be
keeping His Sabbath, shall remember their ways in which they were defiled,
and shall loathe themselves for their Sabbath-breaking!
-
They were removed out of their land. “For the children of Israel walked in
all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them;
Until the Lord removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the
prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day”
(2 Kings 17:22-23).
21For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king:
and Jeroboam drave Israel from following the Lord, and made them sin a great sin.
For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did;
they departed not from them; 1 Kings 15:30 (KJV)
Because of the sins of Jeroboam which he sinned, and which he made Israel sin,
by his provocation wherewith he provoked the Lord God of Israel to anger.
1 Kings 14:16 (KJV)
And he shall give Israel up because of the sins of Jeroboam, who did sin,
and who made Israel to sin.
Isreal became slaves, then lost to the world, dispersed with there captures.
by deforce, becoming the lost 10 tribes,
15Though thou, Israel, play the harlot, yet let not Judah offend;
-130 year after Isreal lost to the world and long gone,
Judah does not listen and goes captive too.
that faithless one, Israel, how she played the harlot
[A]nd her false sister Judah saw it. She saw that for
all the adulteries of that faithless one, Israel,
I had sent her away with a decree of divorce;
yet her false sister Judah did not fear, but she too went and played the harlot also.
And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery
I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah
feared not,but went and played the harlot also. Jeremiah 3:8 (KJV)
I will remove Judah also out of my sight, as I have removed Israel,
and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen,
and the house of which I said, My name shall be there” (2 Kings 23:27).
Jeroboam changed the fall Sabbath feasts from the 7th month to the 8th month,
it is also implyed that they changed the sabbath to the first day of week at this time.
so Does it matter to God about [his convocations] ?
“And I will wait upon the Lord, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob(sinful Isreal)
Isaiah 8:17: God is now hidding his face from them, striped of name, heritage, idenity,
and for Davids sake and Gods Holy name do we even see the so. tribe of Judah.
all because of sabbaths breaking, which to God is idoltry
Both houses of Israel were sent into national punishment and banishment
from the Holy Land because they broke God’s Sabbath(s)!
(Jeremiah 29:10), many of the house of Judah returned to the Holy Land
to rebuild the temple, and restore the worship there
The Prophet Nehemiah tells why they had been driven into captive slavery
70 years before
Nehemiah 13:15-18). The house of Judah was without excuse. They had been warned by the prophets.
“Thus saith the Eternal; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day
neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers…
(Jeremiah 17:21-22, 27).
The house of Judah did not heed it.And burned the house of the Eternal, and the king’s house;
and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire”
(Jeremiah 52:12-13)
WHY Israel Defeated in Leviticus 26: “Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image
to bow down unto it: for I am the Eternal your God. Ye shall keep my sabbaths,
and reverence my sanctuary: I am the Eternal” (verses 1-2).
God promised abundant production and wealth, national peace, and national dominance
that would have led to world dominance (verses 3-13).
But, said God (verses 14-33), if they refused to obey those commandments,
they would suffer sickness and disease, and driven from their land as slaves
to their enemies’ lands.
God made a special eternally binding covenant with them involving the Sabbath
(Exodus 31:12-17). The Sabbath was made the national sign by which the true God
would be identified and known to them, and by which they were to be identified as His people.
After the division into two nations—when the kingdom of Israel made Jeroboam
their king, the first thing this king did was introduce idolatry and Sabbath-breaking.
Ezekiel was given a message from God to the house of Israel(Ezekiel 3:1).
God says, in Ezekiel 20: “Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt,
and brought them into the wilderness. And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them
my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.
Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them,
that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them” (verses 10-12).
“But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness:
they walked not in MY statutes, and they despised MY judgments?…?
and MY sabbaths they greatly polluted?…” (verse 13).
Then God pleaded with their children, a generation later. Notice!
“But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of
your fathers, neither observe THEIR judgments, nor defile yourselves with THEIR idols:
I am the Eternal your God; walk in MY statutes, and keep MY judgments, and do them;
And hallow MY sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you,
that ye may know that I am the Eternal your God” (verses 18-20).
The entire emphasis here is between God’s statutes, judgments and Sabbaths
on the one hand, and their FATHERS’ different sabbaths, statutes and judgments.
the children rebelled against me,” continued God, through the Prophet Ezekiel.
“[T]hey polluted MY sabbaths?…” (verse 21).
He scattered them, in national captivity and slavery (verse 23).
“Because they had not executed MY judgments, but had despised MY statutes,
and had polluted MY sabbaths, and their eyes were after their FATHERS’ idols”
“And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries
wherein ye are scattered?…?with fury poured out. And I will bring you into
the wilderness of the people [coming exodus—Jeremiah 23:7-8],
and there will I plead with you face to face” (Ezekiel 20:34-35).
“Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt,
SO will I plead with you, saith the Lord God?.… And I will purge out from
among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me..
and YE shall know that I am the Lord” (verses 36-38).
43And there shall ye remember your ways, and all your doings, wherein
ye have been defiled; and ye shall lothe yourselves in your own sight
for all your evils that ye have committed.
44And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have wrought with you for
my name's sake, not according to your wicked ways, nor according to your
corrupt doings, O ye house of Israel, saith the Lord God.
He says our people, when they are no longer rebellious, who will then be
keeping His Sabbath, shall remember their ways in which they were defiled,
and shall loathe themselves for their Sabbath-breaking!
-
They were removed out of their land. “For the children of Israel walked in
all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them;
Until the Lord removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the
prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day”
(2 Kings 17:22-23).
21For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king:
and Jeroboam drave Israel from following the Lord, and made them sin a great sin.
For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did;
they departed not from them; 1 Kings 15:30 (KJV)
Because of the sins of Jeroboam which he sinned, and which he made Israel sin,
by his provocation wherewith he provoked the Lord God of Israel to anger.
1 Kings 14:16 (KJV)
And he shall give Israel up because of the sins of Jeroboam, who did sin,
and who made Israel to sin.
Isreal became slaves, then lost to the world, dispersed with there captures.
by deforce, becoming the lost 10 tribes,
15Though thou, Israel, play the harlot, yet let not Judah offend;
-130 year after Isreal lost to the world and long gone,
Judah does not listen and goes captive too.
that faithless one, Israel, how she played the harlot
[A]nd her false sister Judah saw it. She saw that for
all the adulteries of that faithless one, Israel,
I had sent her away with a decree of divorce;
yet her false sister Judah did not fear, but she too went and played the harlot also.
And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery
I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah
feared not,but went and played the harlot also. Jeremiah 3:8 (KJV)
I will remove Judah also out of my sight, as I have removed Israel,
and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen,
and the house of which I said, My name shall be there” (2 Kings 23:27).
Jeroboam changed the fall Sabbath feasts from the 7th month to the 8th month,
it is also implyed that they changed the sabbath to the first day of week at this time.
so Does it matter to God about [his convocations] ?
“And I will wait upon the Lord, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob(sinful Isreal)
Isaiah 8:17: God is now hidding his face from them, striped of name, heritage, idenity,
and for Davids sake and Gods Holy name do we even see the so. tribe of Judah.
all because of sabbaths breaking, which to God is idoltry
I get what you're saying brother...the one rebuttal I have is that Jesus broke the "Sabbath" law, and allowed his disciples to break the Sabbath law and yet he was without Sin and became the savior for both you and me and all those that believe! Either we can accept that Jesus became the fulfillment of the law in our lives when he died a blameless sinless death or be the fulfillment ourselves...I personally chose the former and forget the latter!
Jesus said that the sabbath was made for us, and not the other way around. He said that the Son of man rules over the sabbath.
I am reading a book that describes a struggle in the early church between Paul, who sought to break from the Jewish law, and the Jerusalem church, which was trying to hold onto it. According to the book, and my understanding of the book, had Paul and his allies not won that struggle, there might never have been a Christian church. The Christians might have been absorbed back into the Jewish faith, and Jesus might have been forgotten.
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I am reading a book that describes a struggle in the early church between Paul, who sought to break from the Jewish law, and the Jerusalem church, which was trying to hold onto it. According to the book, and my understanding of the book, had Paul and his allies not won that struggle, there might never have been a Christian church. The Christians might have been absorbed back into the Jewish faith, and Jesus might have been forgotten.
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That's the question I'm asking. My family and I always went to church on Sunday's. However, I know some people go on Saturdays or Wednesdays. So what is the actual Sabbath on? And does it matter to God what day we do worship on? Bible verses would be helpful.
My family and I always went to church on Sunday's. However, I know some people go on Saturdays or Wednesdays. So what is the actual Sabbath on? And does it matter to God what day we do worship on? Bible verses would be helpful.
Why We Have a Seven Day Week and the Origin of the Names of the Days of the Week
The seventh day was set apart and made holy at creation...
-Astronomy observence
"By calculating the eclipses, it can be proven that no time has been lost and the
creation days were seven, divided into 24 hours each."—Dr. Hinkley,
The Watchman, July 1926 [Hinkley was a well-known astronomer].
"The human race never lost the septenary [seven day] sequence of week days and
that the Sabbath of these latter times comes down to us from Adam, though the ages,
without a single lapse."—Dr. Totten, professor of astronomy at Yale University.
"Seven has been the ancient and honored number among the nations of the earth.
They have measured their time by weeks from the beginning. The origin of this was
the Sabbath of God, as Moses has given the reasons for it in his writings."
—Dr. Lyman Coleman.
"There has been no change in our calendar in past centuries that has affected in
any way the cycle of the week."—James Robertson, Director American Ephemeris,
Navy Department, U.S. Naval Observatory, Washington, D.C., March 12, 1932.
"It can be said with assurance that not a day has been lost since Creation, and all
the calendar changes notwithstanding, there has been no break in the weekly cycle."
—Dr. Frank Jeffries, Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society and Research
Director of the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, England.
There is no question about which day the seventh day of the week is.
The weekly cycle
the break between the shift from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar?
In 1582, please notice that Thursday the 4th was followed by Friday the 15th.
The weekly cycle was not interrupted. Now take a look at 1752, Wednesday
the 2nd was followed by Thursday the 14th. Again, the calendar had to be
adjusted to correct it to the seasons but the weekly cycle remained unchanged.
We are to worship in Spirit and Truth. Any day of the week will do.
We who are in Christ are not bound to observe this day or that - that was an Old Covenant observance commanded to Israel.
We who are in Christ are not bound to the Law, but to Christ, Who IS our Sabbath Rest \o/! (see Rom. 7:4-6)
Nothing wrong with setting this day or that aside for rest or worship. Tradition has early believers gathering together and worshiping on the first day (Sunday), in reverence and celebration of the Resurrection of Christ. The practice continues. Many churches don't limit their services to Sunday, but because of growth in their local bodies have added services to include Saturdays, as well.
If one is contemplating 'keeping' the Sabbath as it was commanded to Israel in the Old Covenant, prepare to take upon yourself the whole Law, and prepare to keep it all, perfectly, for if you stumble in just one point, you will have broken it all. (see Gal. 3:10, James 2:10)
Jesus said His burden is light . . .
-JGIG
We who are in Christ are not bound to observe this day or that - that was an Old Covenant observance commanded to Israel.
We who are in Christ are not bound to the Law, but to Christ, Who IS our Sabbath Rest \o/! (see Rom. 7:4-6)
Nothing wrong with setting this day or that aside for rest or worship. Tradition has early believers gathering together and worshiping on the first day (Sunday), in reverence and celebration of the Resurrection of Christ. The practice continues. Many churches don't limit their services to Sunday, but because of growth in their local bodies have added services to include Saturdays, as well.
If one is contemplating 'keeping' the Sabbath as it was commanded to Israel in the Old Covenant, prepare to take upon yourself the whole Law, and prepare to keep it all, perfectly, for if you stumble in just one point, you will have broken it all. (see Gal. 3:10, James 2:10)
Jesus said His burden is light . . .
-JGIG
I get what you're saying brother...the one rebuttal I have is that Jesus broke the "Sabbath" law, and allowed his disciples to break the Sabbath law and yet he was without Sin and became the savior for both you and me and all those that believe! Either we can accept that Jesus became the fulfillment of the law in our lives when he died a blameless sinless death or be the fulfillment ourselves...I personally chose the former and forget the latter!
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
The pharisees were keeping the law outwardly to be noticed (external) and that didn't count, because God wants a changed Heart (internal), The law written on the heart.
When God said don't eat of the tree of good and evil did He make it clear which tree it was? Yes
Would it be right for us to say it doesn't matter which tree, lets just make that tree the one we shouldn't eat and you can choose another tree for yourself to never eat of. Just choose what tree suits you.
God made a day of rest and sanctified and blessed it,
God has clearly told man that it was made for them.
If it is clear which day God chose and we say any day will do, would that be right?
We know that Saturday is the Sabbath because of the days around the crucifixion and resurrection, We can have confidence that it is still Saturday today because of the diligent Jews and Sabbath keepers for the last 2000 years.
If God said remember the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy and we keep Sunday instead it would be called disobedience by logic or principle.
Would it be right for us to say it doesn't matter which tree, lets just make that tree the one we shouldn't eat and you can choose another tree for yourself to never eat of. Just choose what tree suits you.
God made a day of rest and sanctified and blessed it,
God has clearly told man that it was made for them.
If it is clear which day God chose and we say any day will do, would that be right?
We know that Saturday is the Sabbath because of the days around the crucifixion and resurrection, We can have confidence that it is still Saturday today because of the diligent Jews and Sabbath keepers for the last 2000 years.
If God said remember the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy and we keep Sunday instead it would be called disobedience by logic or principle.
Yes, the cycle had never had been changed, but they were not practicing the Sabbaths, Jesus had told them that they had stayed up watch to know when to plant and when to reap, but did not know the hour or day that it were. But only the Magi had stayed up watch. They did not kept the cycles of knowing the dates of how old the earth were from the beginning. But unconsciously that the Romans had later on change it accordingly to the seasons that had put everything back on track. If they knew what season it were when Jesus had came, then it will not be no debate when was Jesus born. But it were the Jubilee that when Jesus was born because according to the laws at the time of the High Sabbath, that everyone must go to their home town and which they had done unaware. And 49 years later that Jesus had died on the next High Sabbath, because on the Jubilee, that they must release someone from prison or debt as a token of forgiveness, and which they had released Barabbas. But they believed that Jesus lived up to 33 years old, but actually He was 49. And that is why that they cannot connect the dots to everything because they are off track. God had left hidden messages all through the scriptures that will tell the truth all about everything, to keep us on track.
In 45 B.C.E., Romans modified their method of marking time to keep it in phase with seasons, but not require intercalation of an extra month. They accomplished this with the Julian Calendar. Month lengths were extended to bring the calendar’s total to 365 days, making it truly solar. This change was accompanied by addition of an extra day every fourth year (after February 23rd) because of the almost six extra hours beyond 365 days in a tropical year. http://www.webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-roman.html
In 45 B.C.E., Romans modified their method of marking time to keep it in phase with seasons, but not require intercalation of an extra month. They accomplished this with the Julian Calendar. Month lengths were extended to bring the calendar’s total to 365 days, making it truly solar. This change was accompanied by addition of an extra day every fourth year (after February 23rd) because of the almost six extra hours beyond 365 days in a tropical year. http://www.webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-roman.html
Interesting article from the GTY website about the Sabbath Day:
Are the Sabbath laws binding on Christians today?
We believe the Old Testament regulations governing Sabbath observances are ceremonial, not moral, aspects of the law. As such, they are no longer in force, but have passed away along with the sacrificial system, the Levitical priesthood, and all other aspects of Moses' law that prefigured Christ. Here are the reasons we hold this view.
1. In Colossians 2:16-17, Paul explicitly refers to the Sabbath as a shadow of Christ, which is no longer binding since the substance (Christ) has come. It is quite clear in those verses that the weekly Sabbath is in view. The phrase "a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day" refers to the annual, monthly, and weekly holy days of the Jewish calendar (cf. 1 Chronicles 23:31; 2 Chronicles 2:4; 31:3; Ezekiel 45:17; Hosea 2:11). If Paul were referring to special ceremonial dates of rest in that passage, why would he have used the word "Sabbath?" He had already mentioned the ceremonial dates when he spoke of festivals and new moons.
2. The Sabbath was the sign to Israel of the Mosaic Covenant (Exodus 31:16-17; Ezekiel 20:12; Nehemiah 9:14). Since we are now under the New Covenant (Hebrews 8), we are no longer required to observe the sign of the Mosaic Covenant.
3. The New Testament never commands Christians to observe the Sabbath.
4. In our only glimpse of an early church worship service in the New Testament, the church met on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7).
5. Nowhere in the Old Testament are the Gentile nations commanded to observe the Sabbath or condemned for failing to do so. That is certainly strange if Sabbath observance were meant to be an eternal moral principle.
6. There is no evidence in the Bible of anyone keeping the Sabbath before the time of Moses, nor are there any commands in the Bible to keep the Sabbath before the giving of the law at Mt. Sinai.
7. When the Apostles met at the Jerusalem council (Acts 15), they did not impose Sabbath keeping on the Gentile believers.
8. The apostle Paul warned the Gentiles about many different sins in his epistles, but breaking the Sabbath was never one of them.
9. In Galatians 4:10-11, Paul rebukes the Galatians for thinking God expected them to observe special days (including the Sabbath).
10. In Romans 14:5, Paul forbids those who observe the Sabbath (these were no doubt Jewish believers) to condemn those who do not (Gentile believers).
11. The early church fathers, from Ignatius to Augustine, taught that the Old Testament Sabbath had been abolished and that the first day of the week (Sunday) was the day when Christians should meet for worship (contrary to the claim of many seventh-day sabbatarians who claim that Sunday worship was not instituted until the fourth century).
12. Sunday has not replaced Saturday as the Sabbath. Rather the Lord's Day is a time when believers gather to commemorate His resurrection, which occurred on the first day of the week. Every day to the believer is one of Sabbath rest, since we have ceased from our spiritual labor and are resting in the salvation of the Lord (Hebrews 4:9-11).
Are the Sabbath laws binding on Christians today?
We believe the Old Testament regulations governing Sabbath observances are ceremonial, not moral, aspects of the law. As such, they are no longer in force, but have passed away along with the sacrificial system, the Levitical priesthood, and all other aspects of Moses' law that prefigured Christ. Here are the reasons we hold this view.
1. In Colossians 2:16-17, Paul explicitly refers to the Sabbath as a shadow of Christ, which is no longer binding since the substance (Christ) has come. It is quite clear in those verses that the weekly Sabbath is in view. The phrase "a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day" refers to the annual, monthly, and weekly holy days of the Jewish calendar (cf. 1 Chronicles 23:31; 2 Chronicles 2:4; 31:3; Ezekiel 45:17; Hosea 2:11). If Paul were referring to special ceremonial dates of rest in that passage, why would he have used the word "Sabbath?" He had already mentioned the ceremonial dates when he spoke of festivals and new moons.
2. The Sabbath was the sign to Israel of the Mosaic Covenant (Exodus 31:16-17; Ezekiel 20:12; Nehemiah 9:14). Since we are now under the New Covenant (Hebrews 8), we are no longer required to observe the sign of the Mosaic Covenant.
3. The New Testament never commands Christians to observe the Sabbath.
4. In our only glimpse of an early church worship service in the New Testament, the church met on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7).
5. Nowhere in the Old Testament are the Gentile nations commanded to observe the Sabbath or condemned for failing to do so. That is certainly strange if Sabbath observance were meant to be an eternal moral principle.
6. There is no evidence in the Bible of anyone keeping the Sabbath before the time of Moses, nor are there any commands in the Bible to keep the Sabbath before the giving of the law at Mt. Sinai.
7. When the Apostles met at the Jerusalem council (Acts 15), they did not impose Sabbath keeping on the Gentile believers.
8. The apostle Paul warned the Gentiles about many different sins in his epistles, but breaking the Sabbath was never one of them.
9. In Galatians 4:10-11, Paul rebukes the Galatians for thinking God expected them to observe special days (including the Sabbath).
10. In Romans 14:5, Paul forbids those who observe the Sabbath (these were no doubt Jewish believers) to condemn those who do not (Gentile believers).
11. The early church fathers, from Ignatius to Augustine, taught that the Old Testament Sabbath had been abolished and that the first day of the week (Sunday) was the day when Christians should meet for worship (contrary to the claim of many seventh-day sabbatarians who claim that Sunday worship was not instituted until the fourth century).
12. Sunday has not replaced Saturday as the Sabbath. Rather the Lord's Day is a time when believers gather to commemorate His resurrection, which occurred on the first day of the week. Every day to the believer is one of Sabbath rest, since we have ceased from our spiritual labor and are resting in the salvation of the Lord (Hebrews 4:9-11).
