Mental Health Medications and Christians

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SHOULD CHRISTIANS TAKE MENTAL HEALTH PHARMACEUTICALS?

  • YES, MENTAL HEALTH PHARMACEUTICALS HAVE A LEGITIMATE PURPOSE FOR SOME CHRISTIANS

    Votes: 22 95.7%
  • NO, MENTAL HEALTH PHARMACEUTICALS SHOULD NEVER BE USED BY CHRISTIANS

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Total voters
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It causes a lowered immune system, allergies, and can cause a lining of grey colored mucus on the stomach walls that is not healthy for digestion or the immune system.
Absolutely. It actually changes molecular structure and density in digestive membranes. Not a good thing, at all.
 
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I am just trying to stay NEUTRAL while saying that a person never knows until they have actually tried xyz. All people have opinions but not all have educated opinions.
Truly, since whether that diet was tried or not was already talked about on this thread.
 
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It is not bad for you. But some of that answer is qualified by your needs on any given day.
I personally did that for over a year. But I was rail thin.
Before I became a vegan which was when I was 33, I was lifting weights and even entered a few novice body building contests. I am only 5'9', but I weighed about 190-ish at the time.
So when I became vegan, I lost a lot of weight, and becuause of that and my previous experience with really carrying to much weight for my frame, i decided to see what the manipulation of weight would have on my body, my blood test levels, and my detox/overall health.
So I did the once a day meal thing.
The best time to eat, if one does that is around noon to 2pm.
The benefits are that you are conserving an amazing amount of energy re digestion. The average American uses about 60% to 70% of available energy to digest their meals, Vegans and raw foodists use around the 20% to 35% range.
That is significant on that the body does not waste that energy. It goes into repair and healing and detox. Speaking of which, on one meal a day, you will detox, assuming your not eating about 2,000 calories at that meal, and that your not eating a lot of animal products and starches and processed and fired foods and the like.
The down side is your going to be very skinny. Thank God I had gotten over my physical insecurities at that point, or I never could have done it. And you may get tired at times.
And socially, there are a lot of ramifications. If one has a active life, with people in it, it is hard to go out to diner and not eat.
But maybe try it for a few days or a week, and see how you feel and if you think you may want to intermittently do it.
Thanks for that informative answer Joseph :)

Actually, after all the bad eating and sedentary life over the last two years I have gained quite a bit of weight ... so unlike you, I don't have to worry about being rail thin for a while :D

I do find an interesting phenomenon though ... after going to the gym I am not hungry ... but something commands me to eat ... our bodies are so smart :)

I read, last night, that after going to the gym one should eat a protein based food within the hour. You were into body- building ... what do you think? Should a body builder eat in a specific way???
 

Magenta

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It causes a lowered immune system, allergies, and can cause a lining of grey colored mucus on the stomach walls that is not healthy for digestion or the immune system.
Some dead guy I read up on many years ago purported that all disease was mucous based and that a raw food diet would eliminate such. I can't remember his name, he was from the nineteenth century, late, I think... and European.
 
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So by extension, all of us should be ignoring each other, right? Unless he or she is licensed in that area of conversation.
So unless one is a licensed therapist, or has some type physiological degree, we should not be taking any advice from anyone else, right?
No sense in taking any theological advise from someone unless they have a degree in seminary, right?
Only teachers can teach our kids, correct?
How about prayer? Can we have someone prayer for us, or do you need to see their Christian degree? I guess so, because otherwise, how would you know they are not a wolf in sheep's clothing?
Really? You called a brother ignorant more than once and yet still demand anyone listen to you?
Your thoughts may be with good intentions, but your displaying your ignorance. But then again your 74 years old. Your just parroting what your generation knows.
Your day is almost past. There is a reason the younger people have more knowledge about lifestyle on one hand then you do in your whole body.
It is largely because of your generations experimentation with pesticides, and drug treatments they come to the conclusions they have. Why we have had a complete turn around in how we view diet and lifestyle.
Your generation laughed at people who jogged. You looked at weight lifters as odd balls.
It was your generation that spurred the hippie movement. The younger people had a more finely tuned innate grasp of why this country was failing then its parents did.
It was your kids that began to question things. They asked why are blacks being treated so disgracefully. Why did we have to go to Vietnam. Why can't woman be treated as equals.
And now you want to rant about the god like powers of MD's. But no surprise, because to your ilk, they and the United States government could do never do any harm. Never lie nor mislead you.
You have seen your day, and I for one am glad we are coming out of those dark ages when people who viewed the human body holistically were treated like the witches were at Salem. Your way of thinking about nutrition and biological healing is archaic.
I am glad things are working out for you. It is true, you don't know what you don't know.
Ignorance is bliss.
The average gall bladder can expand to the size of a pear when it gets full of gall/bile. I dare say yours is pushing watermelon size by now.
 

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It causes a lowered immune system, allergies, and can cause a lining of grey colored mucus on the stomach walls that is not healthy for digestion or the immune system.
It also strengthens bones. My uncle couldn't BF when he was a baby and formula was not readily available, it may not have even existed back then. Grammie had to put him on raw cow's milk and he has drank that all his life. Fast forward to his adult years, he was driving a big tractor and it rolled onto him pinning him under it. His doctor said his bones should have been splinters and shards but they were in tact.
Yes I believe that it was the grace of God working through raw milk. and quite frankly I seriously doubt that it causes that much harm to the body.
 

Magenta

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It also strengthens bones. My uncle couldn't BF when he was a baby and formula was not readily available, it may not have even existed back then. Grammie had to put him on raw cow's milk and he has drank that all his life. Fast forward to his adult years, he was driving a big tractor and it rolled onto him pinning him under it. His doctor said his bones should have been splinters and shards but they were in tact.
Yes I believe that it was the grace of God working through raw milk. and quite frankly I seriously doubt that it causes that much harm to the body.
There are other ways to get calcium :) Beans, salmon, sardines, figs...
bok choy, molasses, kale, black eyed peas, almonds, oranges...
 
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It also strengthens bones. My uncle couldn't BF when he was a baby and formula was not readily available, it may not have even existed back then. Grammie had to put him on raw cow's milk and he has drank that all his life. Fast forward to his adult years, he was driving a big tractor and it rolled onto him pinning him under it. His doctor said his bones should have been splinters and shards but they were in tact.
Yes I believe that it was the grace of God working through raw milk. and quite frankly I seriously doubt that it causes that much harm to the body.
There are at least 30 veggies with calcium in them ... we don't need milk for calcium ...
 
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we are strange creatures really ... who try to keep our infancy diet through life. Every other creature is weaned :D
 

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Those poor cows! Yeah, and manufactured milk, men telling women that it was
better for their babies than what their bodies could provide, can anyone say bilking
the public for all they're worth? Some things just totally steam me.
 
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If someone were to eat this diet, and they were allergic to the algae, but didn't know it, then THAT is an adverse effect. I'm not allergic to anything that I know of, but then again, I've never eaten algae or wheat grass. How do you know this diet WON'T adversely affect people? You have no assured guarantee of that.
Actually the info on the benefits and possible harm are covered online. Although they tend to miss a really important piece of info. It's from the ocean, thus it consumes salt. Anyone with high blood pressure probably doesn't want to take it.
 
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Those poor cows! Yeah, and manufactured milk, men telling women that it was
better for their babies than what their bodies could provide, can anyone say bilking
the public for all they're worth? Some things just totally steam me.
You know ... it killed me when I found out that the food we feed the cows we want to eat could feed the world over ... :(

We feed multitudes of cows while millions of people starve.
 
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Actually the info on the benefits and possible harm are covered online. Although they tend to miss a really important piece of info. It's from the ocean, thus it consumes salt. Anyone with high blood pressure probably doesn't want to take it.
If people ate right they would not have HBP.
 
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The ones that don't need psychiaters or pills to function normally and who don't have a classified 'mental illness', the caregivers who care for these people and the psychiaters, although some of them really are nuts. There's a whole site of Grant Mullen and books. He preaches and has it all together and almost caused my death and of the others you don't know, because they're either dead or he removes their posts. Only the halleluja this is fabulous! ones are allowed.
Someone on this thread said her 15-year-old son was just diagnosed with schizophrenia. Was he "normal" the day before? What about people who don't go to shrinks? Does not going suddenly mean "normal." When you take it down to every disease, illness, disorder, and variant of everything shrinks have ever come up with as "abnormal," who is left? "Normal" seems like a one-size-fits all, and I've never met someone with just the right amount of "normal" to be considered "normal."

I just don't like the term because it always seems like it's pointing to someone who doesn't exist and all the rest of us are less-than "normal."

And why would I want to spend any time on a site of some idiot who almost killed you? Never met him, don't want to, but I already know I don't like him!
 
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The real God surely has! (BTW, you're missing the English spelling of the word. It's "psychiatrist." I suspect you're spelling it closer to Dutch than English, so just wanted to give you a heads up. Besides, this is my native language and spell checker has to fix how I spell it anyway. lol)

I'd be dead now, if I never went to one. Not that he did my brain any good, but he prescribed enough pain pills to see me through until my next appointment with the GI willing to test each and every single muscle in my intestinal tract, (until I told him to stop, because simply finding out they were spasming never ended the pain from them spasming.) I was in so much pain, I was lying on the floor twisting and turning because I couldn't think of anything else to do. (And I saw a dead bug under the sofa. I'm terrified of bugs, but I was in so much pain, I couldn't even run away from a bug. That much pain.) So the shrink stopped me from the ultimate solution -- jabbing a needle into my heart and emptying it to kill myself!

God sent me to a shrink for that time when there was no more living with the pain.

He sent hubby to one for no better reason than to convince our government -- the people who decide who is and who isn't disabled -- he was disabled!

Lambinfield goes to one for the beauty of only hearing some voices now. He has schizophrenia. He wouldn't be able to have a reasonable conversation without the help of a psychiatrist!. (Whoa! first time I ever spelled it right without spell check. That's why I keep going for shrink -- easier to spell. lol)

So, okay. You went to a despicable creep and got the raw end of that deal. That does not mean shrinks are evil. It means you landed one that was. Some shrinks help. Don't base your theology on your life alone. And don't keep learning the conspiracy theorist's viewpoint, because all they teach is doubt, distrust, anger, and some very funky imitation of reality!
 
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So are you saying that a persons opinion that differs from yours is a person who has a fake god?
No, but if you just read the tread instead of coming into the middle of it and pretending like you're the impartial judge now, you'd know what I was saying.
 
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It also strengthens bones. My uncle couldn't BF when he was a baby and formula was not readily available, it may not have even existed back then. Grammie had to put him on raw cow's milk and he has drank that all his life. Fast forward to his adult years, he was driving a big tractor and it rolled onto him pinning him under it. His doctor said his bones should have been splinters and shards but they were in tact.
Yes I believe that it was the grace of God working through raw milk. and quite frankly I seriously doubt that it causes that much harm to the body.
Milk is exactly what growing children need. It is specifically designed for that need.... that is why all babies, including calves, nurse. Ever seen a grown cow drinking milk?

After any animal is grown, they have no need for milk. For some, like humans, it's harmful.

His bones were already given the boost they needed in childhood. That is when his body really used it.