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Re: 47.2...

I'm not promoting this nonsense-just simply making the statement that if Bowman does not conclude soon--he risks being lumped in with those [conspiracy theories] who would say that the idea of Jesus Christ was stolen from the Egyptian Ra (or Horus, or w/e)

Go ahead and prove to us your repeated 'Ra' assertion...
 
Re: Keep denying...

You and Magenta seem to be the same person...same rage....same verbage...same name-calling...

Still waiting for you to rebut my numerous posts...
The Lord Jesus Christ is THE LORD over ALL creation,
including your false prophet muhammed and the demon god allah,
and they will both bow to Him, and they probably are already.
How's that for a rebuttal to your lies and deception.

Where do you get the rage accusation. I certainly have no rage here.
However the lie you spewed that Jesus and muhammed were the same IS outrageous.

And you can hold your breath waiting, I have no need to address your lies.
YOU made a claim, said you would verify it from scripture.
It's not my job to refute your lying garbage, it's up to you to repent
of it and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.

The next step is to proclaim His Truth, but since you insist on
telling lies about Him, and getting ppl to discuss your
false prophet, you obviously aren't interested in the Truth.

And, little boy, telling the truth is not name-calling, okay?
If someone calls you poop-head, that would be name-calling.
But if someone steals, they're a thief. If someone lies, they're a liar.
If someone tells lies about God and scripture revelation, they're a false prophet.

That's not name-calling, that's just telling it like it is, son.
Now tell Jesus, and magenta, you're sorry, and run along.
 
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Re: Keep denying...

The Lord Jesus Christ is THE LORD over ALL creation,
including your false prophet muhammed and the demon god allah,
and they will both bow to Him, and they probably are already.
How's that for a rebuttal to your lies and deception.

Where do you get the rage accusation. I certainly have no rage here.
However the lie you spewed that Jesus and muhammed were the same IS outrageous.

And you can hold your breath waiting, I have no need to address your lies.
YOU made a claim, said you would verify it from scripture.
It's not my job to refute your lying garbage, it's up to you to repent
of it and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.

The next step is to proclaim His Truth, but since you insist on
telling lies about Him, and getting ppl to discuss your
false prophet, you obviously aren't interested in the Truth.

And, little boy, telling the truth is not name-calling, okay?
If someone calls you poop-head, that would be name-calling.
But if someone steals, they're a thief. If someone lies, they're a liar.
If someone tells lies about God and scripture revelation, they're a false prophet.

That's not name-calling, that's just telling it like it is, son.
Now tell Jesus, and magenta, you're sorry, and run along.

Spot on.

Sorry i jumped on your case, Friday.
 
Re: 47.2...

I think you are doing so now, Bowman. What is your point?

The very same as what sent Magenta into a dither when I asked for her to defend her copy-paste-assertions from the internet...she still holds it against me....just like you are beginning to likewise turn...

Its like clockwork...
 
Re: Keep denying...

The Lord Jesus Christ is THE LORD over ALL creation,
including your false prophet muhammed and the demon god allah,
and they will both bow to Him, and they probably are already.
How's that for a rebuttal to your lies and deception.

Where do you get the rage accusation. I certainly have no rage here.
However the lie you spewed that Jesus and muhammed were the same IS outrageous.

And you can hold your breath waiting, I have no need to address your lies.
YOU made a claim, said you would verify it from scripture.
It's not my job to refute your lying garbage, it's up to you to repent
of it and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.

The next step is to proclaim His Truth, but since you insist on
telling lies about Him, and getting ppl to discuss your
false prophet, you obviously aren't interested in the Truth.

And, little boy, telling the truth is not name-calling, okay?
If someone calls you poop-head, that would be name-calling.
But if someone steals, they're a thief. If someone lies, they're a liar.
If someone tells lies about God and scripture revelation, they're a false prophet.

That's not name-calling, that's just telling it like it is, son.
Now tell Jesus, and magenta, you're sorry, and run along.

Rebut my explanations.

No one is really interested in your feelings of hatred towards me...
 
Re: 47.2...

The very same as what sent Magenta into a dither when I asked for her to defend her copy-paste-assertions from the internet...she still holds it against me....just like you are beginning to likewise turn...

Its like clockwork...

You forgot to answer the question: What is your point? (In promoting the Koran on a Christian forum)
 
Bowman is using a different Koran than the Koran normally accepted by Muslims today.
 
Re: 47.2...

The very same as what sent Magenta into a dither when I asked for her to defend her copy-paste-assertions from the internet...she still holds it against me....just like you are beginning to likewise turn...

Its like clockwork...

You forgot to look at my answer.

Perhaps you can help me find it in this mess?

........
 
Re: Keep denying...

Rebut my explanations.

No one is really interested in your feelings of hatred towards me...
No one is interested in your lies. I have no need to rebut your lies, the Lord Jesus Christ already did that when He defeated you and your sorry little false prophet muhammed on the cross.

My hatred is for your lies and doctrines of devils, not for you personally, but since you're a muhammedite, you can't understand the difference, and have no regard for truth or love, so you think anyone that hates your doctrine must hate you as well.

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Re: Keep denying...

No one is interested in your lies. I have no need to rebut your lies, the Lord Jesus Christ already did that when He defeated you and your sorry little false prophet muhammed on the cross.

My hatred is for your lies and doctrines of devils, not for you personally, but since you're a muhammedite, you can't understand the difference, and have no regard for truth or love, so you think anyone that hates your doctrine must hate you as well.


More hatred, Magenta...
 
Re: Keep denying...

More hatred, Magenta...
From my Post#293:
----->My hatred is for your lies and doctrines of devils,
not for you personally<-----

To:Bm, How can you act so 'scholarly',
and then act like you can't read?!

Btw, magenta is a friend and a beloved sister in Christ,
and is a whole lot smarter and better looking than me,
so it's an honor to be mistaken for her,
though I don't think she'd take too kindly to it,
so, you can apologize to her,
and again, please.....learn how to read.
 
Okay, just curious. Why start a new thread since this one was hijacked early already and Theo wasn't really into discussion anyway?

Magenta derailed the thread with help from B1Davanda. I perceive Bowmans response, here, as attempting NOT to continue to derail the thread.

When the fruit of the Spirit of God starts to be evident in the way you treat other people on this forum, particularly those who disagree with you, I might start to believe that your claim to faith in Christ has some validity.

I agree with your sentiments. However, after some research, I can clearly see that Bowman has conducted himself very well considering the responses of the crowd here. It takes two to bicker--and neither side is guiltless.



Oh?

Wow you like to twist everything don't you?

You still can not get past the Sabbath issue.

The seventh day is proof. And you can not say it is not.

You have no proof..
Just conjecture and your opinion

^ Isn't that what this is (conjecture & opinion)?

So again magenta challenges your deceit, and again you cower away. Rather than address the charges directly, you defer to another thread where a half dozen ppl were proving to you how wrong you are, but you continue to disrespect magenta and others here, and the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, by
blatently misrepresenting Him, and lying about relying on His scriptures to defend your deceitful positions.

And trying to point out similarities proves nothing.
Try this..... Mammel, gray, 4 legs, a tail, a long nose, rather large ears, generally wild but can be trained and domesticated.
Did I just describe a mouse or an elephant?
Similarities don't mean much here, because the differences are pretty drastic, and you want to be sure what you're describing, especially if the animal in question is about to sit on you.

I think, if you went back and read this thread from the beginning--you'd see that Bowman was not being disrespectful to Magenta. On the contrary, I see Magenta as being the provoking and disrespectful person in this instance.
 
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Re: Keep denying...

From my Post#293:
----->My hatred is for your lies and doctrines of devils,
not for you personally<-----

To:Bm, How can you act so 'scholarly',
and then act like you can't read?!

Btw, magenta is a friend and a beloved sister in Christ,
and is a whole lot smarter and better looking than me,
so it's an honor to be mistaken for her,
though I don't think she'd take too kindly to it,
so, you can apologize to her,
and again, please.....learn how to read.


Your head must be buried pretty deep if you think that an apology is in order to someone that refers to another as a Satanist...
 
Put that in your pipe...

...an idiom which means: "See how you like that! -- It's a rude way of telling someone they must accept what you have just said even if they do not like it.", "Take that!" -- It's essentially a form of vengeance.

What does the Bible say about vengeance?

Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” (Romans 12:19 ESV)

So this is Bowman's attitude early in this thread.

And then enter the post and response which started the mess in this thread.

BM believes Mohammed was really Jesus Christ... so it could mean anything.

Fact is, the Koranic 'Muhammad' is merely an epithet for the Biblical Jesus Christ, in the four locations that it is used.

However....your knowledge of Koranic Arabic has already been amply demonstrated as non-existent in another thread...so, all you have is merit-less denial now...from what you can google from the web...

So, Bowman's response presents his THEORY as fact, and then he babbles a bit about Magenta's lack of knowledge concerning the subject--looks like they're picking at each other.

...moving on...

Our sun and the stars were created in Gen 1.1, before 'day 1' and after the beginning starting point.

Interesting. It looks to me like sun and stars were mentioned in verses 14-19 (fourth day). Bowman's statement could use some clarification, for sure.

[edit: Bowman later clarified (a bit) by stating: "The original Hebrew does not." So, apparently and according to Bowman, the Hebrew text states that stars and the sun were created on Day 1.]

Impossible.


The seventh day was never closed-out like the previous six....which means, that we are literally still in the seventh day....of which, is clearly more than a 24hr period of time.

Here, he's saying a 7 day (24 hour day) creation story is impossible. Since this is not a common viewpoint on the creation story--I'd say it could use some clarification.

Alright, so then out of the blue Magenta picks at Bowman again:

In response to,
I go by what scripture says...not by what your imagination conjures up...

Show us where day seven ended like the previous six.


Good luck.

She said,
Please show us where Scripture says Jesus is Mohammed. This should be interesting.




Bowman was then essentially jeered by the crowd:

Awwww here we go again,sheeesh. Doesn't he ever give up?!

... It was Magenta that instigated this 'Mohammad = Jesus' talk. For, the subject was not brought up in this thread until Magenta mentioned it twice.

More jeering:
We should pray he does... and that he stop calling Islam a sect of Christianity, also.

...here's Bowman's response:

You keep attempting to resurrect this material, on dissimilar threads...your lack of Arabic knowledge must really bother you.


Feel free to open a new thread for further discussion, if you wish...

Looks like I might owe Bowman an apology for accusing him of promoting the Quran on a Christian website.

Magenta's response:

You just said you base your beliefs on Scripture, I would simply like to see you back this up, without having you resort to your usual lies and deflections... but it seems you cannot. Scripture cannot be complicit with what you imagine, after all, equating an adulterous war mongering pedophile with the Son of God pretty much amounts to blasphemy.

So, this is essentially continuing to derail the thread for her personal "vendetta"--more picking and jeering.

Start a new thread.

Why don't you start a thread and lay out your case for Jesus being Mohammed. Or simply answer the question, since you said you base your beliefs on Scripture. I would like to see you try to support this blasphemous belief of yours.

I'm ashamed at myself and disappointed in Magenta.

Bowman responded to Magenta's "Why don't you start a thread..." by sharing a link to another thread titled: 'Similarities in Islam & Christianity' -- He refused to take her bait and derail the thread. Good job, Bowman.

Magenta doesn't respond for a while, but the bickering continues with B1Davanda:

You should direct that to your friend bowman.
But then again, since he's betrayed himself as a muslum,
there can be no unity. I'm disappointed in you, though, chuckt,
I thought you would have known better.

At this point, Tintin entered the picture and jumped in with the jeering crowd--picking at Bowman and chuckt.

Chuckt, I know you and Bowman are best buddies or something and that you think highly of him, but I don't give a rat's ass. I really don't. I've said it before. He could be the King of freaking England in terms of theological know-how, but if he has no love for his fellow Christians, he's a clanging bell. To me, he seems as see-through as the Emperor's New Clothes.

This is where I entered the scene--I got on Tintin's case because I thought his post was very rude, inappropriate and, furthermore, I felt Tintin had done this exact same thing (disparaging remarks) to me recently. We've since resolved our matter--but there are other relationships yet to be mended here!

B1Davanda continues the accusations and disparaging remarks.
Magenta reenters and continues the same.

I tried to mediate at this point, but Magenta just attacked me also.

And yet we are being told Jesus was Mohammed. Stop interfering. You are not helping even if you think are, even if it is your hope to do so. Either agree or disagree: was Jesus Christ Mohammed? And if you think He was, side with Bowman and defend it. If you believe He was not, then join us in asking for proof from Scripture where Bowman says he bases his beliefs.

Magenta was the one who derailed the thread and made it into a 'Bowman said Muhammed (the pedophile) was Christ'. Her attitude of 'either agree or disagree' shows her unwillingness to logically and cordially discuss the topic. It appears some deep emotional attachment is the root of her ire--that attachment being: her current perception of who Muhammed is compared to who Jesus Christ is.

I am quite certain my postings during this time were only making Magenta and B1Davanda even more frustrated. For this, I am sorry--my intention was never to add to the problem.

At this point, there are about two pages of me simply trying to explain my actions to deaf ears (Magenta & B1Davanda).

At this point, we are 12 pages into a derailed thread.

On page 14, Dan_473 comes up with the idea to start a new thread, so as not to continue to derail this thread.

New thread here (http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...aracteristics-biblical-jesus.html#post2579496).

B1Davanda continues the disparaging remarks, EVEN AFTER a new thread is created.
roaringkitten follows suit.

I was guilty of the same: http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...ersection-theoogy-science-15.html#post2579650
 
Sorry Bowman.

And sorry OP, for my contributions to the derailing.
 
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best just to ignore.. He has been here awhile pulling this stuff, probably will continue until people stop giving him an audience with which to promote his belief.