Is the Devil bound right now...?

[Ahwatukee]

Yep and many more verses. Thank you. So I guess they believe the first resurrection has taken place. Whewww!! Thats a difficult one because according to God's word there are only two resurrections and if the first one took place all thats left is damnation of the unjust. So they are teaching no hope then. Hmm what I stated from beginning.

Joh_5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Act_24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

Yep, they are waiting for the saints to bring the earth into a righteous state and then Christ will return at the end of that thousand years, which they don't believe to be a literal thousand years. We have news for them, the earth is only going to get worse and when the restrainer has been removed, then the full force of sin will prevail and the man of lawlessness will be revealed, whom they don't believe as being a real person.

Regarding the "first resurrection" I believe that there are phases or stages to it:

* Christ the first fruits (1 Cor.15:23)

* The Church at His appearing (1 Thes.4:13-18, 1 Cor.15:51-52)

* The Male Child/144,000 who are caught up to God's throne (Rev.12:5)

* The two witnesses (Rev.11:11-12)

* The great tribulation saints (Rev.20:4-6)

I believe that one of main reasons that expositors believe that the church is going to be gathered after Christ returns, is because of Rev.20:4-6. The read the words "First Resurrection" and they get the word "Only resurrection" in their heads. The fact is that, there is ONLY A RESURRECTION mentioned in Rev.20:4-6 and no mention of the living being believers being changed and caught up. Those who believe this also have a hard time explaining who is following the Lord out of heaven riding on white horses as depicted in Rev.19:14.

 

[JohnOne]

Yep, they are waiting for the saints to bring the earth into a righteous state and then Christ will return at the end of that thousand years, which they don't believe to be a literal thousand years. We have news for them, the earth is only going to get worse and when the restrainer has been removed, then the full force of sin will prevail and the man of lawlessness will be revealed, whom they don't believe as being a real person.

Regarding the "first resurrection" I believe that there are phases or stages to it:

* Christ the first fruits (1 Cor.15:23)

* The Church at His appearing (1 Thes.4:13-18, 1 Cor.15:51-52)

* The Male Child/144,000 who are caught up to God's throne (Rev.12:5)

* The two witnesses (Rev.11:11-12)

* The great tribulation saints (Rev.20:4-6)

I believe that one of main reasons that expositors believe that the church is going to be gathered after Christ returns, is because of Rev.20:4-6. The read the words "First Resurrection" and they get the word "Only resurrection" in their heads. The fact is that, there is ONLY A RESURRECTION mentioned in Rev.20:4-6 and no mention of the living being believers being changed and caught up. Those who believe this also have a hard time explaining who is following the Lord out of heaven riding on white horses as depicted in Rev.19:14.

I can explain who is on earth and who is in heaven all lined up with scripture but it would take me hours. There is a rapture and those who are alive and remain will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air. I am putting it up in studies on my youtube channel over time. I don't want to post links here as I am not sure of rules yet. Just settling in. I actually joined because I felt the need to respond to the comments in this post. So here I am. I tend to be overly thorough at times. I just want those who are confronted with all these crazy doctrines to know how to answer with scripture.

 

[Ahwatukee]

I can explain who is on earth and who is in heaven all lined up with scripture but it would take me hours. There is a rapture and those who are alive and remain will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air. I am putting it up in studies on my youtube channel over time. I don't want to post links here as I am not sure of rules yet. Just settling in. I actually joined because I felt the need to respond to the comments in this post. So here I am. I tend to be overly thorough at times. I just want those who are confronted with all these crazy doctrines to know how to answer with scripture.

Well God speed to you, as I have also been correcting and contending for the truth. I finally had to put the preterists and the Amil's on Ignore, because there is just no getting them away from the pre-packaged beliefs that they have adopted. It appears that they are unable to comprehend the truth. Go ahead and mention Satan's binding in Rev.20:1-3 and watch where they will take you from there. The problem seems to be that there are many who are not convinced even when scripture is presented. We have people here who don't even believe in the bodily resurrection of Christ and you've already met one of the Amil's and then there are preterists. And a host of other erroneous teachings, compliments of the powers of darkness, with plenty of people to spread them. And thanks be to God there are also those who are reading and recognizing the truth, having the same Spirit and same word of truth. Another big problem that I see, is the interpreting of scripture that is meant to be understood in the literal sense and they interpreting it as symbolic or applying an allegorical interpretation to any given Biblical topic, especially when it comes to end-time events.

 

[JohnOne]

Yep, they are waiting for the saints to bring the earth into a righteous state and then Christ will return at the end of that thousand years, which they don't believe to be a literal thousand years.

Wait wont that lead them into strong delusion because they loved not the truth. They will be looking for peace and safety in this world before Christ returns.

1Th_5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Interesting the world leaders are saying peace and safety all the time on T.V. more and more over the past 10 years. Peace and saftey and peace and security they continually say. Hmmmm

 

[Ahwatukee]

Wait wont that lead them into strong delusion because they loved not the truth. They will be looking for peace and safety in this world before Christ returns.

1Th_5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Interesting the world leaders are saying peace and safety all the time on T.V. more and more over the past 10 years. Peace and saftey and peace and security they continually say. Hmmmm

Exactly right! Here's another problem: since they don't believe that the antichrist must come first before the Lord returns to end the age, who do you think they are going to believe the antichrist is when he shows up with that false prophet who will be performing miracles signs and wonders? They also, either the Amil's or the preterists or both, don't believe that the mark of the beast will be a literal mark in the hand or the forehead, as scripture makes clear, but instead they have applied a symbolic interpretation so that the hand represents willful action and the forehead represents making a decision. When they put it all together, the mark of the beast becomes the observance of the Sabbat on Sunday, I.e. anyone who observes the Sabbath on Sunday has received the mark of the beast. Forget the buying and selling part!

 

[JohnOne]

Well God speed to you, as I have also been correcting and contending for the truth. I finally had to put the preterists and the Amil's on Ignore, because there is just no getting them away from the pre-packaged beliefs that they have adopted. It appears that they are unable to comprehend the truth. Go ahead and mention Satan's binding in Rev.20:1-3 and watch where they will take you from there. The problem seems to be that there are many who are not convinced even when scripture is presented. We have people here who don't even believe in the bodily resurrection of Christ and you've already met one of the Amil's and then there are preterists. And a host of other erroneous teachings, compliments of the powers of darkness, with plenty of people to spread them. And thanks be to God there are also those who are reading and recognizing the truth, having the same Spirit and same word of truth. Another big problem that I see, is the interpreting of scripture that is meant to be understood in the literal sense and they interpreting it as symbolic or applying an allegorical interpretation to any given Biblical topic, especially when it comes to end-time events.

You too God Speed. I believe that there are literal and spiritual interpretations but those who have the Holy Spirit and love the truth and remain humble before God these things are revealed to and those who are not honest with themselves and towards God and are not humble continually before him are kept from these things.


1Co_2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Everything in scripture is literal unless otherwise stated or implied as to be spiritual or allegorical by other verses.

To back that up with scripture a verse:

Galatians 4:23-24 KJV But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

God's word is very specific.

 

[JohnOne]

Exactly right! Here's another problem: since they don't believe that the antichrist must come first before the Lord returns to end the age, who do you think they are going to believe the antichrist is when he shows up with that false prophet who will be performing miracles signs and wonders? They also, either the Amil's or the preterists or both, don't believe that the mark of the beast will be a literal mark in the hand or the forehead, as scripture makes clear, but instead they have applied a symbolic interpretation so that the hand represents willful action and the forehead represents making a decision. When they put it all together, the mark of the beast becomes the observance of the Sabbat on Sunday, I.e. anyone who observes the Sabbath on Sunday has received the mark of the beast. Forget the buying and selling part!

Jesus Christ is our sabbath rest. We rest in Him.

Joh_8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

We are free to worship him on any day or everyday if we like. I take Jesus with me everywhere I go.

 

[JohnOne]

You too God Speed. I believe that there are literal and spiritual interpretations but those who have the Holy Spirit and love the truth and remain humble before God these things are revealed to and those who are not honest with themselves and towards God and are not humble continually before him are kept from these things.


1Co_2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Everything in scripture is literal unless otherwise stated or implied as to be spiritual or allegorical by other verses.

To back that up with scripture a verse:

Galatians 4:23-24 KJV But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

God's word is very specific.

Rev_11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

 

[Ahwatukee]

You too God Speed. I believe that there are literal and spiritual interpretations but those who have the Holy Spirit and love the truth and remain humble before God these things are revealed to and those who are not honest with themselves and towards God and are not humble continually before him are kept from these things.

I totally agree with you, as I am always proclaiming that, "If the literal sense makes good sense, then don't seek any other sense." As you said, one should only apply symbolism where it is obvious. But the problem is, that many don't follow that and because of false teachings they look at the book of Revelation as all symbolic and because of that, they distort it. For example, the Amil's don't believe in a literal thousand years and that because they take Psalm 50:10 and apply the meaning to Rev.20:1-3. Therefore, since God says that He owns cattle on a thousand hills, then the number is symbolic meaning an unknown amount of cattle and therefore, the thousand years in Rev.20:1-7 is not a literal thousand years. Another example is that when the 144,000 are sealed from the literal twelve tribes of Israel, we have those who don't even believe that they are Israel, but the church and we also have those who don't believe that the 144,000 is a literal number, but unknown amount.

"For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."

 

[Ahwatukee]

Jesus Christ is our sabbath rest. We rest in Him.

Joh_8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

We are free to worship him on any day or everyday if we like. I take Jesus with me everywhere I go.

Amen to that! Unfortunately, there are also those who believe that we are still under parts of the law and the keeping of the Sabbath on Saturday as a requirement for salvation. The devil and his angels are busy in these very last days!

I must get some sleep now, but I look forward to talking with you later. I'm Don by the way. Good to meet you!

Blessings in Christ!

 

[JohnOne]

I totally agree with you, as I am always proclaiming that, "If the literal sense makes good sense, then don't seek any other sense." As you said, one should only apply symbolism where it is obvious. But the problem is, that many don't follow that and because of false teachings they look at the book of Revelation as all symbolic and because of that, they distort it. For example, the Amil's don't believe in a literal thousand years and that because they take Psalm 50:10 and apply the meaning to Rev.20:1-3. Therefore, since God says that He owns cattle on a thousand hills, then the number is symbolic meaning an unknown amount of cattle and therefore, the thousand years in Rev.20:1-7 is not a literal thousand years. Another example is that when the 144,000 are sealed from the literal twelve tribes of Israel, we have those who don't even believe that they are Israel, but the church and we also have those who don't believe that the 144,000 is a literal number, but unknown amount.

"For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."

Its crazy isn't it. They will take the 7 churches as literal and 7 seals, trumpets literal but all of a sudden this 1000 years is spiritual or allegorical. They don't follow their own logic all the way through. Its crazy.

Here is another interesting thing. God continually displays and proves that He is God by telling the beginning from the end. In other words He is the only one that can tell the future. By stating things have taken place from scripture that have not yet they are essentially denying God and His authority over all things. This is one of the major ways God shows us He is God by determining the beginning from the end and showing He is the beginning and the end throughout scripture.

 

[JohnOne]

Amen to that! Unfortunately, there are also those who believe that we are still under parts of the law and the keeping of the Sabbath on Saturday as a requirement for salvation. The devil and his angels are busy in these very last days!

I must get some sleep now, but I look forward to talking with you later. I'm Don by the way. Good to meet you!

Blessings in Christ!

Good to meet you too. God Bless you and rest well. I must rest as well.

 

[Bowman]

So according to you satan has been cast out of heaven already.

No.

According to scripture.

Yet according to God's word lets see:

Ephesians 6:12 KJV For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Eph 6:12 ForG3754 weG2254 wrestleG2076 G3823 notG3756 againstG4314 fleshG4561 andG2532 blood,G129 butG235 againstG4314 principalities,G746 againstG4314 powers,G1849 againstG4314 theG3588 rulersG2888 of theG3588 darknessG4655 of thisG5127 world,G165 againstG4314 spiritualG4152 wickednessG4189 inG1722 highG2032 places.

Greek word numbers to the right of each word. The Greek word number for high is G2032.

G2032 is Greek word ἐπουράνιος spelled epouranios, pronounced ep-oo-ran'-ee-os From G1909 and G3772; IT MEANS above the sky: - celestial, (in) heaven (-ly), high.

Again, adding the context that you fail to supply...


Eph 6.11 - 16


Put on all the armor of God, for you to be able to stand against the deceit of the Devil, because fighting against flesh and blood is not to us, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of the darkness of this age, against the spiritual powers of evil in the heavenly realms.Because of this, take up all of the armor of God that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having worked out all things, to stand. Then stand firm, "having girded your loins about with Truth" and having put "on the breastplate of righteousness," Isa. 11:5; 59:17 and having shod the feet with the preparation of the "gospel of peace." Isa. 52:7Above all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the darts of the evil one being kindled.



Context seals the deal.


The reader is informed that a spiritual battle is going on….NOT between us and The Devil (because he is presently bound), but against the deceit (plural ‘methodeia’) of The Devil.


If this battle was against Satan, himself, then the text would have plainly said so, on a singular basis. Instead, the plural deceit is listed out in plural fashion demonstrating the demonic forces which are roaming free.


This passage ends with the way it started – reiterating that we are NOT in battle with Satan, himself, but the darts (plural ‘belē’), demons, that he is launching at us.

 

[Bowman]

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that NOW WORKETH in the children of disobedience:

Eph 2.1 - 3

And you being dead in the trespasses and the sins of you, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit now putting forth power inside the sons of disobedience, among whom we also all conducted ourselves in times past in the lusts of our flesh, doing the things willed of the flesh and of the understanding, and were by nature the children of wrath, even as the rest.


Have you not yet learned that Satan's 'power', today, are the demons?

Scripture repeats this a plethora of times.

If Satan were able to do it himself, then he would....but he cannot, because he is bound.

 

[Bowman]

Just FYI, Bowman is an amillennialist, which means that he ignores the literal context of scripture and opts for spiritualizing them.

Rather than repeatedly putting a label on someone else, why don't you try sticking to the topic of this thread....which asks the question: 'Is the Devil bound right now'....

Be an adult, for once, and DO NOT continue to derail this thread with your jaded views on eschatology.

Can you do that?

 

[garee]

Hi Garee,

You have taken the above verse way out of context. Thomas, after seeing Jesus crucified and die and then seeing Jesus in His resurrected body, prompted Thomas to say "my Lord and my God." Then Jesus said to Thomas that he believed because he had seen him in his resurrected body. Therefore "Not seen" is not referring to Jesus being invisible or returning invisibly, but believing because he had seen the Lord in His resurrected body. When Jesus said, "bless are those who believe, but have not seen" he was speaking about all who would become believers who would not have seen Christ in his resurrected body, which would include all believers throughout the entire church period.

I have already shown you that Jesus bodily, physical resurrection was a proof of his being the Son of God (Rom.1) and also that the word "Anastasis" translated "Resurrection" only refers to the body standing up again. I would advise to reevaluate and that because not believing in the bodily resurrection of Christ is detrimental to ones salvation. This is the very reason that the tomb was empty when Martha, Mary, John and Peter arrived. There was no body because was walking around in it. All believers who have died in Christ will be resurrected in the same manner. Their bodies will resurrect, but with immortal and glorified and with heavenly upgrades.



What do you think the whole meaning was behind the empty tomb?!

Hi Ahwatokee

I am not denying a resurrection of a body. The resurrection appeared, its history But what is the spiritual meaning behind it seeing God, our faithful Creator has no form, as a creature?

He is not a man as us as if there was a daysman (that seen) between God and man. Christ denied worship according to the temporal outward appearance. The blessing comes by walking by faith, the unseen eternal.

For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both. Job 9:32

Corruption must put on the incorruptible. His body was replaced with a new incorruptible body in the twinkling of the eye. .for a one time demonstration of the invisible work or pouring out His Spirit life in jeopardy of his own spirit on sinful flesh.

The corruptible body Christ was revealed by before the resurrection. .. Salvation is not figured according to his birth(flesh). There simply is no such thing as the flesh of holiness.

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the “spirit of holiness”, by the resurrection from the dead:

God cannot put on in the incorruptible , he is the incorruptible Spirit that clothes us with a new incorruptible body. God has no form, he changes not.

In the end of the matter to make sure we continue you walk by faith the unseen eternal he gives us the warning to not be deceived that God has become a man as us(creature)

2Co 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now "henceforth" know we him no more.


The empty tomb I believe signifies the kind of incorruptible body we will receives. It is not subject to the rudiments of this corrupted world. Like our bodies of death it must put on the incorruptible.

 

[DP]

Hi Ahwatokee

I am not denying a resurrection of a body. The resurrection appeared, its history But what is the spiritual meaning behind it seeing God, our faithful Creator has no form, as a creature?

He is not a man as us as if there was a daysman (that seen) between God and man. Christ denied worship according to the temporal outward appearance. The blessing comes by walking by faith, the unseen eternal.

For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both. Job 9:32

Corruption must put on the incorruptible. His body was replaced with a new incorruptible body in the twinkling of the eye. .for a one time demonstration of the invisible work or pouring out His Spirit life in jeopardy of his own spirit on sinful flesh.

The corruptible body Christ was revealed by before the resurrection. .. Salvation is not figured according to his birth(flesh). There simply is no such thing as the flesh of holiness.

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the “spirit of holiness”, by the resurrection from the dead:

God cannot put on in the incorruptible , he is the incorruptible Spirit that clothes us with a new incorruptible body. God has no form, he changes not.

In the end of the matter to make sure we continue you walk by faith the unseen eternal he gives us the warning to not be deceived that God has become a man as us(creature)

2Co 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now "henceforth" know we him no more.


The empty tomb I believe signifies the kind of incorruptible body we will receives. It is not subject to the rudiments of this corrupted world. Like our bodies of death it must put on the incorruptible.

You're going to be in big... trouble... if you keep that false theory of men that our Heavenly Father has no form or image...

Isa 6:1-5
6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.
KJV


Dan 7:9-10
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
KJV

Gen 1:26-27
26 And God said, Let Us make man in our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in His Own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.
KJV



The very image of 'man'... originates from the Heavenly, and is from God's Image Likeness.

 

[valiant]

Yep, they are waiting for the saints to bring the earth into a righteous state and then Christ will return at the end of that thousand years, which they don't believe to be a literal thousand years. We have news for them, the earth is only going to get worse and when the restrainer has been removed, then the full force of sin will prevail and the man of lawlessness will be revealed, whom they don't believe as being a real person.

Regarding the "first resurrection" I believe that there are phases or stages to it:

* Christ the first fruits (1 Cor.15:23)

* The Church at His appearing (1 Thes.4:13-18, 1 Cor.15:51-52)

* The Male Child/144,000 who are caught up to God's throne (Rev.12:5)

* The two witnesses (Rev.11:11-12)

* The great tribulation saints (Rev.20:4-6)

I believe that one of main reasons that expositors believe that the church is going to be gathered after Christ returns, is because of Rev.20:4-6. The read the words "First Resurrection" and they get the word "Only resurrection" in their heads. The fact is that, there is ONLY A RESURRECTION mentioned in Rev.20:4-6 and no mention of the living being believers being changed and caught up. Those who believe this also have a hard time explaining who is following the Lord out of heaven riding on white horses as depicted in Rev.19:14.

The first resurrection is the resurrection of Jesus Christ. All who are His have taken part in the first resurrection (eph 2.6; Col 3.1; john 5.26). John 20.4-5 is the resurrection of the SOULS which ties in with this, We will partake of the second (bodily) resurrection when Jesus come again to introduce the eternal kingdom (john 5.28-29).

The only difficulty with rev 19 is in your own imagination. The armies which followed Him could be angels, or they could be the SOULS of the departed, or they could be the dead which Christ brought with him..

 

[valiant]

You're going to be in big... trouble... if you keep that false theory of men that our Heavenly Father has no form or image...

Isa 6:1-5
6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.
KJV


Dan 7:9-10
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
KJV

Gen 1:26-27
26 And God said, Let Us make man in our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in His Own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.
KJV



The very image of 'man'... originates from the Heavenly, and is from God's Image Likeness.

LOL God takes any form He chooses. Man is in the image of God because he is a spiritual being,

 

[Dan_473]

to the normal reader this means that he will roam about in PEOPLE who are persecutors. But he is restrained by Christ (Matt 12.28-29) which is why the Gospel has flourished.

The bottomless pit or abyss is merely a picture of his restraint. No spirit being could be held in a literal pit.

that's interesting...

I assumed that 'walking' in peter was moving in some way that spirits can move.

like at the beginning of job, where satan is able to present himself to God and says he's been walking around on the earth.