I see. Thank you. Yep, that is pretty heretical. We don't get much of that around here. Mostly, though it may be people pushing "laws" to be followed to gain Salvation, it is generally the usual bunch of people not really reading the entire Bible, but trying to make doctrine out of a single selected verse or two.
Thats Not My Calling: The Great Commission.A Christian Call To Arms
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I share the Gospel every day that I leave my house.
I have visited every house within 10 miles of my home. All 32 of them. I know all these people as friends.
Do I go door to door, or stand on a street corner, no, that is not very time effective.
As I work or shop, I witness to all in a friendly and respectful way, but I do not PREACH to them.
We always part in a friendly way. That way they don't run and hide the next time I meet them.
I have visited every house within 10 miles of my home. All 32 of them. I know all these people as friends.
Do I go door to door, or stand on a street corner, no, that is not very time effective.
As I work or shop, I witness to all in a friendly and respectful way, but I do not PREACH to them.
We always part in a friendly way. That way they don't run and hide the next time I meet them.
That was a great example of christianesse. 
Things dont take care of themselves. God has appointed his saints to carry out the great commission. We set out to do Gods will!! Your words arent Christ' words
Things dont take care of themselves. God has appointed his saints to carry out the great commission. We set out to do Gods will!! Your words arent Christ' words
it's not really clear from the scripture itself that the 'great commission' is a universal command to all believers. Jesus said this to a very specific group; not even to all His disciples - and in saying it, He did not tell them to make evangelists out of everyone who believes, but to make "disciples." my honest opinion is that this passage has been misinterpreted and misused by many well-meaning people.
but that aside, and to speak more directly to what you said here -- something i notice from the parable of the Sower which doesn't seem to get much attention...
The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man.
(Matthew 13:37)
(Matthew 13:37)
so what HRFTD said is not untrue - if we just follow Him, He will accomplish all - God is the One who sows. not you, not me, not Billy Graham -- the Son of Man. if we sow, it is not us, but God working through us. as Paul said in another place, it is no longer him who lives, but Christ who lives in him - so it does not contradict what Christ teaches in this parable when Paul says in this letter:
I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow.
(1 Corinthians 3:6)
(1 Corinthians 3:6)
and it also establishes what HRFTD said -- because it is not only God who sows, but God who gives the increase and causes to grow. the part that we play in His plan is not to do anything that would bring glory to ourselves, but to submit to Him and His will for us. if His will for one is to water, and another to plant, then both are obedient and used by Him, though they do not do the same thing.
i hope you don't have me blocked too, miss, because i don't believe i've been "scoffing" at you, ever. i may have been blunt once or twice, but i'm still trying to be used by Him in your life and in everyone else's here. it is the only purpose of my own life - to serve Him in whatever capacity He wills for me. sometimes that's the work of an evangelist -- but very often, it is very much not.
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This is willies version anyways
You know Im really trying to extend grace to a man whom I think may have suffered some brain damage in the past. I mean that sincerely. Im not being mean or rude but straight up. Something is off.
That is one of the problems of a forum like this where your posts stand as written, and cannot be changed. All anyone has to do is go read your own words (that no one has altered in any way) to see your admitted intention in entering that store, and how you found two employees alone, and asked for some help.... then broad sided them. And, then you even told us you knew what one of them was thinking from just looking at him, since he never spoke a word.
The original "version" is still right there for anyone to read. You might want to go back and read it yourself. I don't know, you actually might not even realize what you said you did.
Interesting comment. My husband and I have a friend, and he button holes people every time he walks down the street. He also has a very thick accent, so my thought is that people don't understand him, even if he was just asking for directions.
He has been doing this for the 34 years we have known him. And he does love to do it in front of other Christians as he has certainly done it in front of us, often enough.
The results? No one has ever gotten saved, or even asked for more information, to go for coffee to talk about it. Not in all that time. But he does look good to himself and other Christians. I know I was certainly fooled by his act for years. My husband still is!
Something about "being rewarded in secret?"
Regarding the heresy - this man, and I do love and care for him as a brother in Christ, has possibly the worst theology I have ever encountered. Forget about Jesus not being God, there are millions of others who could be Christ but are not God. (Or something?) He knows his Bible, he just doesn't understand it. He doesn't get how to interpret and understand. When he is in a church like United Pentecostals,he believes what they do. If it is Word Faith, then he is personally being used by God to heal people. (Except he goes to the doctor as quick as a wink, when he is sick.)
He seems to be in a balanced church right now.So he is pleasant to discuss the Bible. But should he leave...
Anyway, I have never heard of anyone getting saved by a random person just picking them out and witnessing to them. Although of course, God can use anyone in any place.
I just think we need to develop relationships and meet people where they are at. And also not be afraid to speak a word in season about God, when the Holy Spirit prompts. And not to worry about the resullts. That is for the Holy Spirit to take care of. We do need to be on mission with God, all the time. I agree with the OP.
Being on mission means following what the Holy Spirit is telling us to do and trusting him for the results.
He has been doing this for the 34 years we have known him. And he does love to do it in front of other Christians as he has certainly done it in front of us, often enough.
The results? No one has ever gotten saved, or even asked for more information, to go for coffee to talk about it. Not in all that time. But he does look good to himself and other Christians. I know I was certainly fooled by his act for years. My husband still is!
Something about "being rewarded in secret?"
Regarding the heresy - this man, and I do love and care for him as a brother in Christ, has possibly the worst theology I have ever encountered. Forget about Jesus not being God, there are millions of others who could be Christ but are not God. (Or something?) He knows his Bible, he just doesn't understand it. He doesn't get how to interpret and understand. When he is in a church like United Pentecostals,he believes what they do. If it is Word Faith, then he is personally being used by God to heal people. (Except he goes to the doctor as quick as a wink, when he is sick.)
He seems to be in a balanced church right now.So he is pleasant to discuss the Bible. But should he leave...
Anyway, I have never heard of anyone getting saved by a random person just picking them out and witnessing to them. Although of course, God can use anyone in any place.
I just think we need to develop relationships and meet people where they are at. And also not be afraid to speak a word in season about God, when the Holy Spirit prompts. And not to worry about the resullts. That is for the Holy Spirit to take care of. We do need to be on mission with God, all the time. I agree with the OP.
Being on mission means following what the Holy Spirit is telling us to do and trusting him for the results.
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IMO. too many people think they have the mind of Christ in assuming all things for all people
Jesus met people where they were...he did not yank them off the streets nor did He make a scene...when there was a scene, it seems He responded to it
If people have different gifts, how is it that we are all going to respond and act the same?
We don't all have the same life experience and simply cannot reach and teach everyone the same..
It is my experience, that the Holy Spirit will bring people into your sphere that you can witness to or make Jesus real to...where someone else might just turn them off
Jesus met people where they were...he did not yank them off the streets nor did He make a scene...when there was a scene, it seems He responded to it
If people have different gifts, how is it that we are all going to respond and act the same?
We don't all have the same life experience and simply cannot reach and teach everyone the same..
It is my experience, that the Holy Spirit will bring people into your sphere that you can witness to or make Jesus real to...where someone else might just turn them off
K
No Im not saying one must go door to door. Im not saying preach either,but witness. I was buying groceries one day and the lady in front of me struck up a conversation. It was fall and we both had decorations, we chatted about Christmas and family at the holidays. As she was leaving she took out a tract with her church name on it. She wished me a merry Christmas and said if I didn't attend a church I was welcome to come to theirs. She walked away and that was it. She had witnessed in a very nonchalant way. But she opened the door for me to find out more if I wasn't a Christian. And I agree with all you said also.
2 Corinthians 10:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] For we are not bold to class or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves; but when they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are without understanding.
Let us be a people of understanding in our Lord as we all learn and grow up together in Christ.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] For we are not bold to class or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves; but when they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are without understanding.
Let us be a people of understanding in our Lord as we all learn and grow up together in Christ.
