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Quote "your guilt-tripping about witnessing is nothing more than works-based righteousness that puts all kinds of people into bondage

I'm sorry,you meant that for someone else but I take offense to that. Are you saying that what I did in ministry was "works based"? and putting people into bondage?! I hope not.


I can't personally judge you in any way, but IMO much of what is called witnessing is a work of the flesh.
 
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Im just saying Sirk that everyone here has strong opinions. And there are many here that state them very strongly, and I see people getting along with them,even joking with them. One person, that has left CC, had a heart for reconciliation and would try to get people to get along in threads. He crossed another member here and even tried to PM them privately to no avail. He could not make peace with that person, who is known to be outspoken, so he left. Who the person is doesn't matter. The fact is we are all one body and we need to get along together. Depleted admits to being straight forward,I wouldn't expect her to be anything else,shes a blessing! Miss Blue,we all love too and she makes no bones about what she believes. They both bring something needed to CC. And so it is with Ms Susana. If you can't understand her directness,if its too much to handle why bother responding? I feel like she's being ganged up on and its just my opinion. None of us are 100% right in what we say. But we are called to be a witness and to spread the Good News,that was the command we were given and we ought to here and obey. Its to late to be quibbling about the how,just go on and share the faith.
There is a HUGE difference from being assertive and direct and using adjectives like vomit, serpent etc etc ad nauseam about another person. I don't do it simply because it is unkind....not to mention abusive. Propping up that kind of behavior in another person is not very good either.
 
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You don't even know what the word lukewarm means in that context. It's describing Christians who are so self secure in themselves that they are of no use to GOD. Salt without savor.
Salt adds good to the world. That means we go out spread the good news! That is SALT. Salt does not blend in. It makes something DIFFERENT than it was previous the salt:)
I actually do know what lukewarm implies. Lukewarm is apathetic and going nowhere. Neither hot nor cold. Tepid. YUCK

It is stagnant christianity that is not doing as christians ought to do in all things.
 

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In the mist of the fire within this thread I want to post a song my man toby made and I want everyone to consider the wise words spoken here
[video=youtube;xfkhqpl81NA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfkhqpl81NA[/video]
 
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Salt adds good to the world. That means we go out spread the good news! That is SALT. Salt does not blend in. It makes something DIFFERENT than it was previous the salt:)
I actually do know what lukewarm implies. Lukewarm is apathetic and going nowhere. Neither hot nor cold. Tepid. YUCK

It is stagnant christianity that is not doing as christians ought to do in all things.
You know what salty christians do? They visit orphans and widows in their distress and they keep themselves from being stained by the world. They donate cars to single moms so she can get to work. They help a family move. They give money to charities that help people. They cry with people, they laugh with people, they seek to understand people and give them love. As much as you tout yourself as being different from the world, you sure act like a lot of worldly selfish people that I know who wouldn't understand humility if it ran them over. Maybe you're different than that and I have you all wrong....but you have not been very kind to me on here.
 

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I understand that there has been much dispute here and that words were said that should not have been said and where there should have been bandages there were whips and that emotions rose feelings were damaged and people lashed out.
But what good does war among each other do? what good does fanning the fire do and how does this advance the kingdom?
Instead of being a raging fire we must be as still waters

even heated debates have a purpose but when emotions rise and words become a weapon that is when the debate has lost it's value, if we cannot debate in a mature calm and Christ like manner then should we even be debating? Think of the new believers or the not so thick skinned Christians that see all of this, we do so much more harm than good and we sure don't show the heart fo God do we? No, instead we prove the world right when they say we Christians are hypocritical judgmental holier than thou bible thumpers.

One must know when to shake the dust off their feet and walk away after all does a humble heart not have more power than heart that proves itself right? whick kind of belivers are we? ones who fan the flame of war or still the waters?
 
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I understand that there has been much dispute here and that words were said that should not have been said and where there should have been bandages there were whips and that emotions rose feelings were damaged and people lashed out.
But what good does war among each other do? what good does fanning the fire do and how does this advance the kingdom?
Instead of being a raging fire we must be as still waters

even heated debates have a purpose but when emotions rise and words become a weapon that is when the debate has lost it's value, if we cannot debate in a mature calm and Christ like manner then should we even be debating? Think of the new believers or the not so thick skinned Christians that see all of this, we do so much more harm than good and we sure don't show the heart fo God do we? No, instead we prove the world right when they say we Christians are hypocritical judgmental holier than thou bible thumpers.

One must know when to shake the dust off their feet and walk away after all does a humble heart not have more power than heart that proves itself right? whick kind of belivers are we? ones who fan the flame of war or still the waters?

All you have done is tear me down. Take your own advice. Im about to put you on ignore just as I have the others who do nothing but scoff and tear down.
 
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Salt adds good to the world. That means we go out spread the good news! That is SALT. Salt does not blend in. It makes something DIFFERENT than it was previous the salt:)
I actually do know what lukewarm implies. Lukewarm is apathetic and going nowhere. Neither hot nor cold. Tepid. YUCK

It is stagnant christianity that is not doing as christians ought to do in all things.
You gotta live it before you can spread it. Live it and things will take care of themselves.
 
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I can't personally judge you in any way, but IMO much of what is called witnessing is a work of the flesh.
Well you are entitled to your opinion as each of us are. But I appreciate you saying you aren't judging me personally. I believe we are called to witness. I just leave at that. We agree to disagree.
 

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All you have done is tear me down. Take your own advice. Im about to put you on ignore just as I have the others who do nothing but scoff and tear down.
I have no intention of tearing anyone down again you confuse correction with judgement, if you wish to put me on ignore I will not hold it against you though.
I am sincere in saying I only say these things to help you see and understand the power words have and what your words are doing, I could care less about being right or seeming more mature as a believer my intention is to help others to help them grow stronger and closer to God to encourage and uplift.
Believe me I search my own heart everyday and i find darkness I find sin weakness I find everything bad I can possibly find and so I cannot throw a stone and am no better than anyone
 
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There is a HUGE difference from being assertive and direct and using adjectives like vomit, serpent etc etc ad nauseam about another person. I don't do it simply because it is unkind....not to mention abusive. Propping up that kind of behavior in another person is not very good either.
She was using Scripture when she used that word,hot or cold. And I have always been one to defend people when I feel they are being ganged up on. Im not about to quit now. Im not propping up any type of behavior. Im saying we all have strong opinions, its just seems there are some that are allowed to share them at CC and not be called on it and others are. I see a few people,perhaps, being ganged up on in this thread and others. I dont agree 100% with what everyone says nor they with me. But people have a right to state an opinion without being ganged up on.
 
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She was using Scripture when she used that word,hot or cold. And I have always been one to defend people when I feel they are being ganged up on. Im not about to quit now. Im not propping up any type of behavior. Im saying we all have strong opinions, its just seems there are some that are allowed to share them at CC and not be called on it and others are. I see a few people,perhaps, being ganged up on in this thread and others. I dont agree 100% with what everyone says nor they with me. But people have a right to state an opinion without being ganged up on.

If I act like a jerk I would hope that people would tell me I'm acting like a jerk. If one person tells me I am being a jerk there might be room for some interpretation and communication on the matter. If several people tell me I am being a jerk there is probably a whole bunch of merit to it. Lol
 
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Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
 
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Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

I know you probably have me blocked....but can you just consider for a moment that you have done a lot of blaming on this thread? And now you are using scripture to do it. If anything is taking the Lords name in vain...that would have to be it.
 

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In the mist of the fire within this thread I want to post a song my man toby made and I want everyone to consider the wise words spoken here.....
It is a song about forgiveness.

CC has potential for being a wonderful and beautiful place indeed.
 
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Jesus said he would vomit out those who are lukewarm. Perhaps it is Christ' words that upset you so much. Dont shoot the messenger
This is the mistake you are making. When people are lukewarm, they accept the words but do nothing. They are neither believers nor non-believers. I would classify people who live like the world yet claim the Holy Spirit is in their lives.

Now I have heard defences of these christians as just weak christians who are being burdened by having ideas of righteousness and purity put on their backs. So I was compared to a hypocrite and a pharisee. This is not close to being a luke warm christian. My position on witnessing is about it being an expression of your life, rather than something you have to work up to. What works best is getting alongside and sharing all aspects of life, not just John 3:16.

The best witnessing I have come across is total involvement and discipling believers, so it is more than just the sinners prayer, but becoming part of a community.
 
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It is stagnant christianity
What is interesting, is everyone agrees stagnant christianity is not a good thing, but people do not agree what is alive dynamic christianity.

I would say dynamic live christianity is a body of believers who love each other as Christ loved us. They pray for each other and do acts of love for everyone they meet. The Lords honours their prayers with healings and wisdom.

I see though many who do not agree with this, and would rather live in dreams of wealth, health and kingship, which seems a denial of love and walking with Christ. But who am I to claim such a thing, because I do not have a massive ministry of 20,000 member church or thousands of books sold, or a ministry with hundreds of millions pumping up my luxury life style.

I mean spiritual authority is founded on how many people I can conn, not...
 
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You gotta live it before you can spread it. Live it and things will take care of themselves.
That was a great example of christianesse. :rolleyes:
Things dont take care of themselves. God has appointed his saints to carry out the great commission. We set out to do Gods will!! Your words arent Christ' words
 
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You gotta live it before you can spread it. Live it and things will take care of themselves.
Good word,

1 Ti 4:16
Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them:
for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
 

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[h=2]I found this in Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry - good stuff.

John 12:32[/h]John 12:32, "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself." Here Jesus speaks specifically about His crucifixion. It is He who draws to Himself all who are to be saved. When you present the gospel (1 Cor. 15:1-4), the sacrificial death and resurrection of Jesus for sins, Jesus draws the sinner to Himself. He does the work, not you.


As a Christian, you are to witness with truth, honesty, and integrity. As the Lord provides the opportunity, you should respond in a humble and gentle spirit (2 Tim. 2:24). And in that, you should point people to Jesus. It is He alone who saves.


If you know that God's Word will accomplish what God desires and that the gospel is powerful to save and that it is Jesus who draws all men to Himself, then you should realize that the responsibility of salvation does not rest on you, but on God. You are the teacher, the deliverer of good news. "How shall they believe in Him who they have not heard?" (Rom. 10:14). You help them hear!