Can a So-Called Cafeteria Christian be a True Believer?

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BonJovian

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OP is pure rhetoric, but the answer is in the question : cafeteria CHRISTIAN. Now get me a sandwich.
 

trofimus

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Certainly we won't find heaven if we don't obey the Lord's commandments.
Thats true.
But what has to be said together with that is - We dont need to obey them perfectly.

Without this note it can get to absolutely wrong implications.
 

Magenta

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I have made char blacken food before. Set the smoke detector off too.
You did it indoors? Haha. Oops! I hope you don't eat them often. Cancer survivors are told not to have that type of food at all. And no deli meats. Why are they trying to kill us with food? :(
 
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Thats true.
But what has to be said together with that is - We dont need to obey them perfectly.

Without this note it can get to absolutely wrong implications.
True...The other question is..just what are the commandments of the Lord. John tells us exactly what they are for the believer.

1 John 3:23 (NASB)

[SUP]23 [/SUP] This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.


 
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Please answer my question..why is it so hard for you to give a direct answer to a question?..what kind of a game are you playing with us here?

Here is the question again now please just answer straight. Thank you for showing some integrity with us here.


Would the revelation that Christ has us in His hands when we are born again and He said" no one can pluck us out of His hands"..isn't this a great revelation to believe in...He securely holds us for all of eternity because of what He did? We are safe in Him...yes?
No.

You can't knowingly deny any of Christ's revealed truth and expect to get to heaven.
 
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Originally Posted by Grace777x70


Would the revelation that Christ has us in His hands when we are born again and He said" no one can pluck us out of His hands"..isn't this a great revelation to believe in...He securely holds us for all of eternity because of what He did? We are safe in Him...yes?



No.

You can't knowingly deny any of Christ's revealed truth and expect to get to heaven.

So, Jesus lied to us then when He said He no one can pluck the believers in Him from His hands? Because you said that what Jesus said is not true and we are not safe in Him according to your theory. That doesn't sound good to me.

I'll think I'll believe in what he says...thanks for answering though so we know where you stand on Jesus' words and the divine revelation of them.
 
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Can a so-called cafeteria Christian even get to heaven?

A so-called cafeteria Christian is only a partial believer since this person picks and chooses belief based on personal preference and not the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man.

Are you on the road to heaven, or, are you a so-called Cafeteria Christian, a partial believer, choosing to deny Christ's divine revelation to man in its totality?
Right,they treat the word of God like eating at Golden Corral,all you can eat buffet.I like this part,but I do not like this part.Oh this part is tasty,and sweet to my soul,but I do not like this part,for it seems bitter,and hard to swallow for me.
 
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Peterpiper

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Redeemed By Understanding Grace
Redeemed is being brought back. God wants to redeem His creations. Bring them back to perfection , the way He created them. Through His grace He is going to do it.
The one thing that made His creation of beings different from His other creations is He gave them the freedom of choice. When sin appeared Lucifer choose to envy and not just admire. When Eve sinned she chose to believe the devil’s lie instead of trusting her creator. Now, could God have eliminated/eradicated sin at either of these points? Yes, but He would have to have taken away that freedom of choice. He would not do that because it would not be His character to do this. So, in His grace God sent his son to show us the way.
In grace Jesus did three things for us; One = He (100% man and 100% God)showed us that man could live a sinless life. Two= He took away the inevitable result of sin. On the cross Christ died the second death for us. Three = Jesus did the most important part of His mission, in His Grace he gave us His Spirit. That Spirit ( the most powerful thing in the universe ) enables us to do what God didn’t do, eradicate sin. Through the power of the Holy Spirit we can overcome sin. By emptying self and letting the Holy Spirit fill us, we can make right choices.
Only the Character we have developed here on earth will accompany us to heaven. With the Leading of the Holy Spirit we can develop a character that will make the right choices even in heaven. Inspiration says that it is the will of the saints that keeps sin out of heaven. We can have a character better than Lucifer or Eve.
Inspiration says that before Christ comes again there will be a people that perfectly represent the character of God. They don’t know it and are constantly looking to rid themselves of any impurity.
Let us all accept the responsibility of being part of the family of God in Spirit and in Truth
 

AllenW

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83c04ebe6ace0d9b7938762be27a6ef0.jpg Is this a cafeteria Christian?
 
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RobbyEarl

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I just thought it was funny, wanted to share.
When i was young I tried to get out of going to church by playing sick just like school. Mamma said come on and we'll get the pastor to lay hands on you and pray. Couldn't catch a break.
 

Magenta

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In grace Jesus did three things for us; One = He (100% man and 100% God)showed us that man could live a sinless life. Two= He took away the inevitable result of sin. On the cross Christ died the second death for us.
This is so wrong. If man could live a sinless life we would not have needed Jesus to do it for us. We are made righteous through faith in the blood of Jesus. The second death is reserved for those who reject God's plan for humanity offered through the propitiatory sacrifice Jesus Christ made on our behalf. To say Jesus died that death is messed up so many ways to Sunday it baffles how anyone could say such a thing. Jesus died in/to His humanity, His physical body. His spirit never died. The second death is the utter destruction of body and soul.
 
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AboundingGrace

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Can a so-called cafeteria Christian even get to heaven?

A so-called cafeteria Christian is only a partial believer since this person picks and chooses belief based on personal preference and not the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man.

Are you on the road to heaven, or, are you a so-called Cafeteria Christian, a partial believer, choosing to deny Christ's divine revelation to man in its totality?
Who's to say that anyone of us know of the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man? What anyone of us may know, we share with others. To some it's new, to others it's not.

There are various denominations who have doctrines and beliefs that not all the body of Christ agrees on to be essential to Christian life. So who's to decide who is the true believer, or not? Although we each of us may decide in our own mind, and even state it to others, God's grace will table it, until the certainty of finally knowing when we all are in heaven.

To some extent we are all of us cafeteria Christians.

We all see through a glass darkly, but then when we are perfected we shall know even as we are known.
 
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IMO sperical you are denying GOD's WORD by not strengthening your brother.Grace 777x70 has asked for an example of what you are saying so that he can better understand your post and respond with focused clarity but his asking an unitimidating question was met with little regard.

But In my opinion ,that wouldn't mean you are a cafeteria Christian.