Hell. It is in the Bible isnt it?

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Could be true, and I never implied it was only in America that slavery existed. But not acceptable if you consider yourself born-again Christians and glorious children of God and act in an exact opposite manner. The British weren't any holier than the Americans either.

Because of the way they treated Indians back in the days, the Indians hate Christ.. and think of Him as a God of the white man. Who created that cynicism? Maybe the Lord Jesus Christ himself? No.
LOOK HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW ABOUT THE USA. SHALL I GO ON AND ON?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YSlP56xgEk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J4I6EWds-c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRcCD_YLowI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDoyIjRVf30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHOaZaRB1Tw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjTu863o6kY
 
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Nobody blamed the current ones dear. You just got carried away in your emotions. That's ok. Even though wayyy more natives were murdered by your ancestors, compared to mine doesn't make us better than the USA. Ok I agree.

But as it stands now, the current state of affairs: CANADA is wayyyyy better than the USA. Because we celebrate multiculturalism not force immigrants to give up their culture. Even morality, and ethics wise my GOVT is far more better than yours. And you know that, unless you want to get started in that discussion (;

You are talking to a born and bred Canadian, who moved south only a decade ago. Please dont tell me nonsense about my own country. Canadians have hang ups over the French in Quebec and also the Indians. In the Maritimes they have had clashes in the high schools with black against whites. Canada has issues the same as the US does. They are not more Christian than the States, in fact Canada is more European in its beliefs and are more liberal.
 
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Hmm! Kaylagrl is Canadian! (She moved to the US when she was older, and may be naturalized, but has a good Canadian spirit about her! So maybe you are attacking the wrong person! As for Canadians and natives our track record is not good, between residential schools and reservations. And of course, the horrifying stories in BC where traders infected blankets with small pox and then gave them to the natives. I think 20,000 were wiped out on Vancouver Island alone. We have nothing to be self righteous about here!

Not sure where this thread took such a strange turn. I will now depart!

Exactly, thank you. I love my home but we are no more perfect than the US. The US is a superpower so they have a different job in the world that Canada does. Both countries have done horrible things but they have also done wonderful things. Both are eager to help the needy and are there in catastrophes. We dont overlook our faults,we learn from them,and I believe we have. The US and Canada are like brothers and sisters and we have both benefited from that relationship. We pray Gods blessings over both countries.
 

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Exactly, thank you. I love my home but we are no more perfect than the US. The US is a superpower so they have a different job in the world that Canada does. Both countries have done horrible things but they have also done wonderful things. Both are eager to help the needy and are there in catastrophes. We dont overlook our faults,we learn from them,and I believe we have. The US and Canada are like brothers and sisters and we have both benefited from that relationship. We pray Gods blessings over both countries.
Great post, Kayla! I won't respond to people who really don't understand the numbers about missionaries. The US, for example, has 10 times the population of Canada. So all things being equal, if we sent out the equivalent number of missionaries, it would be 10 times less. (So no, we would never make the top 10, unless real revival hit, like the Moravian missionaries, who sent out 1 in 10 of all their people, if I remember correctly.) Of course, there was that 100 year, 24/7 prayer meeting they had - probably that influenced that tremendous missionary movement among such a small group of people.

Along with the Royal Danish Mission College, the Moravian missionaries were the first large-scale Protestant missionary movement. They sent out the first missionaries when there were only 300 inhabitants in Herrnhut. Within 30 years, the church sent hundreds of Christian missionaries to many parts of the world, including the Caribbean, North and South America (see Christian Munsee), the Arctic, Africa, and the Far East. They were the first to send lay people (rather than clergy) as missionaries, the first Protestant denomination to minister to slaves, and the first Protestant presence in many countries.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravian_Church

But in fact, we are considered a mission field by numerous countries and missionaries. The seminary I attended here in Canada, had all American missionaries for professors. And they were incredible! Such an amazing knowledge of the truth, but even more important, they truly demonstrated who Christ is in their lives and words and deeds! I was utterly blessed by those professors.

Rather than "bragging" on the accomplishments of any country, we really need to be humble and recognize the works missionaries have been doing since the time of Paul. The gospel has been spreading, it will continue to spread! I praise God for all the missionaries who have heeded the call, and gone to far countries to take the message of Jesus love and forgiveness to those who have not heard it!
 
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Ms Susanna had hurts in her life. But no one cared to look deeper.
I do hope MsSuzanna is well and that she is in good spirits, I would like to give her a hug and tell her everything will be fine, she is an intelligent individual and shows inner strength.
 
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You still miss the point organicbeast, its not about other countries and what they have done and its not about other people and what they have done.

Its ALL about you and where you stand with God. Are you doing the Will of the Father by the doctrines you teach? Are you following Jesus and teaching His Truths?

Have you ever accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior?

Matthew 7:21-23
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ [SUP]23 [/SUP]And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Jesus did tell us many will say 'Lord,Lord'. Just because a person says 'Lord,Lord, does not mean that person has received Salvation.

Matthew 7:13

[SUP]13 [/SUP]“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

Only a few will enter into the narrow Gate to Jesus. The rest of the world will enter in the broad gate to Hell.

The point is that its all about YOU. Have you accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior? Have you been filled with the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit? Are you doing the Will of God?

This is what counts. Nothing else matters!
 

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Johnny Curtis video
Thank you for posting that. I wondered at first how much syncretism might be in it, but it seems pretty pure. Here is another one by him:

[video=youtube;QS2Ih7XAnWo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2Ih7XAnWo[/video]

His name reminds me of an aboriginal guy named Curtis that I used to see at AA meetings. Living on the west coast of Canada as I do, I have met many of them, who had so much to overcome not just in their personal history, but also in the tribal history, with all their resentments against the white man who stole their life, lands, and culture from them, subjecting them to lives in hell on reservations or as addicts and alcoholics in urban environments where many were not able to adapt. Thank God, the issue of all kinds of sexual abuse in residential schools from decades ago is finally being dealt with. It is disgusting how people treat each other, and I am glad ms has been banned. Kedge, you treat her with more charity than she ever showed you, so kudos to you. Back to the aboriginals... just recently I heard a native person speaking at a meeting, saying how he used to live under the bridges here, and the people he hung out with, all the substances they ingested, anything with any amount of alcohol in it, my goodness, drinking strained shoe polish... this man had an uncle who was a policeman, and his uncle would instruct him in how not to get caught, and how to behave on the streets; never accept anything you have to sell, he was told, or people will think you are a thief. Such a different life than the one I have lived, and yet the underlying elements of the pain and the shame and the loss is the unifying theme, and the place where we all connect, the very same place of brokenness where God picks up every single one of us who have had supernatural encounters with Him, and as He promises in His revealed written Word, to show Himself to those who diligently seek Truth. Such a powerful venue for sharing the message of God's love, so different from here where people more often than not are nastily tearing each other up like wolves over minor differences of opinion, or for simply daring to say something that is true, but others don't like to hear for whatever reason, and then being witness to the lengths they go to to defend their position of hatred and nastiness. The human condition... it's no wonder the suicide rates are so high among certain demographics. My heart breaks.
 
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Thank you for posting that. I wondered at first how much syncretism might be in it, but it seems pretty pure. . . .

His name reminds me of an aboriginal guy named Curtis that I used to see at AA meetings. Living on the west coast of Canada as I do, I have met many of them, who had so much to overcome not just in their personal history, but also in the tribal history, with all their resentments against the white man who stole their life, lands, and culture from them, subjecting them to lives in hell on reservations or as addicts and alcoholics in urban environments where many were not able to adapt. . . .
I have to wonder why the Canadian government chose to call them Aboriginals, instead of Native Canadians?
 

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I have to wonder why the Canadian government chose to call them Aboriginals, instead of Native Canadians?
I am a native Canadian because I was born here, but I am not an aboriginal, because I am of Irish descent (fifth generation, I think). An aboriginal is defined as "first, earliest," especially in reference to inhabitants of lands colonized by Europeans; original or earliest known; native; indigenous etc. The terms First Peoples and First Nations are both used to refer to indigenous peoples of Canada. The terms First Peoples or Aboriginals in Canada are normally broader terms than First Nations, as they include Inuit, Métis and First Nations.
 

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Great post, Kayla! I won't respond to people who really don't understand the numbers about missionaries. The US, for example, has 10 times the population of Canada. So all things being equal, if we sent out the equivalent number of missionaries, it would be 10 times less. (So no, we would never make the top 10, unless real revival hit, like the Moravian missionaries, who sent out 1 in 10 of all their people, if I remember correctly.) Of course, there was that 100 year, 24/7 prayer meeting they had - probably that influenced that tremendous missionary movement among such a small group of people. . . .
And then you missed my whole point to Organicbeast, who has been tooting the Canadian horn making statements implying that Canadians were WAY better than US Citizens; therefore my whole point was that CANADIANS have their problems and shortcomings too.

I recounted the top ten countries sending out missionaries, and all ten are listed in the article that I posted and Canada is not one of them. By posting that article, I was emphasizing to Organicbeast that even Canadian Christians are far from perfect, in fact they could not do better than the Country that came in 10th. Using your population percentages, you would have to admit that also means we have 10 times the trouble makers, 10 times the news Cameras and Reporters to blow the story out of proportion, and 10 times the hot spots ready to erupt in violence. No Canada certainly has their share of problems too:

[video=youtube;y8lB9ThlZLg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8lB9ThlZLg[/video]

So where lies the blame in both countries? My opinion, one of the main causes is watered down, meatless sermons, over the last six decades, which allowed liberalism to Creep into the Church, where a "love only" false gospel took over. Most Pastors are now either self deceived or just too scared of loosing members to teach what the Bible actually says about HELL, Respect for Authority, and GOD's will applied to lifestyles, to the point that Political Correctness supersedes teaching the WORD OF GOD. We are now reaping what we have not SOWN.

Verses like these are being taught in fewer and fewer Churches:

Matthew 13:47-50 (NKJV)
[SUP]47 [/SUP] "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind,
[SUP]48 [/SUP] which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away.
[SUP]49 [/SUP] So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,
[SUP]50 [/SUP] and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Matthew 25:41-46 (ESV)
[SUP]41 [/SUP] “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
[SUP]42 [/SUP] For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
[SUP]43 [/SUP] I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’
[SUP]44 [/SUP] Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’
[SUP]45 [/SUP] Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’
[SUP]46 [/SUP] And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Romans 13:1-8 (RSV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of him who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,
[SUP]4 [/SUP] for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain; he is the servant of God to execute his wrath on the wrongdoer.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Therefore one must be subject, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] For the same reason you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] Pay all of them their dues, taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.

Romans 12:2 (ESV)

[SUP]2 [/SUP] Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

John 3:36 (ESV)
[SUP]36 [/SUP] Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (HCSB)

[SUP]9 [/SUP] Don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived: No sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, or anyone practicing homosexuality,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] no thieves, greedy people, drunkards, verbally abusive people, or swindlers will inherit God’s kingdom.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived: No sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, or anyone practicing homosexuality,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] no thieves, greedy people, drunkards, verbally abusive people, or swindlers will inherit God’s kingdom.

James 4:4 (ESV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.


Now that is just the tip of iceberg of what most Churches of today refrain from teaching, in the interest of Political Correctness, maintaining a healthy Collection Plate, and becoming like the world to gain new members. Then we sit back and wonder why the younger generations are so rebellious against authority, and do not take the WORD of GOD seriously.

I am convinced we are reaping the product of what we have not been teaching.

 

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I am a native Canadian because I was born here, but I am not an aboriginal, because I am of Irish descent (fifth generation, I think). An aboriginal is defined as "first, earliest," especially in reference to inhabitants of lands colonized by Europeans; original or earliest known; native; indigenous etc. The terms First Peoples and First Nations are both used to refer to indigenous peoples of Canada. The terms First Peoples or Aboriginals in Canada are normally broader terms than First Nations, as they include Inuit, Métis and First Nations.
Okay, I still do not understand, because we call anyone who is a descendant of a native tribe that existed when Columbus Discovered America, "NATIVE AMERICANS". When I hear the term "aboriginal", I think of Australia. And apparently I am not the only one:

[h=1]Indigenous Australians[/h]From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Indigenous Australians
are the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people of Australia . . .


 

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Okay, I still do not understand, because we call anyone who is a descendant of a native tribe that existed when Columbus Discovered America, "NATIVE AMERICANS". When I hear the term "aboriginal", I think of Australia. And apparently I am not the only one:

Indigenous Australians
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Indigenous Australians
are the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people of Australia . . .

I am not sure what there is to not understand. Aboriginal refers to the earliest known peoples of a land, especially lands colonized by Europeans (according to dictionary.com), whether they are in Canada or Australia. Here is what Merriam Webster has to say on the matter:

Synonym Discussion of aboriginal

native, indigenous, endemic, aboriginal mean belonging to a locality. native implies birth or origin in a place or region and may suggest compatibility with it <native tribal customs>. indigenous applies to species or races and adds to native the implication of not having been introduced from elsewhere <maize is indigenous to America>. endemic implies being peculiar to a region<edelweiss is endemic in the Alps>. aboriginal implies having no known race preceding in occupancy of the region
 
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Okay, I still do not understand, because we call anyone who is a descendant of a native tribe that existed when Columbus Discovered America, "NATIVE AMERICANS". When I hear the term "aboriginal", I think of Australia. And apparently I am not the only one:

[h=1]Indigenous Australians[/h]From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Indigenous Australians
are the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people of Australia . . .


Wouldn't that simply be because your vocabulary might need some bolstering? I knew what the term meant.
 

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Wouldn't that simply be because your vocabulary might need some bolstering? I knew what the term meant.
Exactly. Talking about indigenous Australians as being Aboriginals as if no other country in the whole wide world has or is allowed to have indigenous peoples who are also called Aboriginals, just because that is what they are called there, is clearly faulty reasoning. The word history shows it originating in the 1600's, but not being specifically applied to Australian Aboriginals until 1820.
 

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Exactly. Talking about indigenous Australians as being Aboriginals as if no other country in the whole wide world has or is allowed to have indigenous peoples who are also called Aboriginals, just because that is what they are called there, is clearly faulty reasoning. The word history shows it originating in the 1600's, but not being specifically applied to Australian Aboriginals until 1820.
Okay different cultures, different expressions. Down here they are NATIVE AMERICANS. I see the word has two definitions, but we use only one.

Simple Definition of aboriginal



  • : of or relating to the people and things that have been in a region from the earliest time
  • : of or relating to the native people of Australia : of or relating to Australian aborigines

 

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Okay different cultures, different expressions. Down here they are NATIVE AMERICANS. I see the word has two definitions, but we use only one.

Simple Definition of aboriginal

: of or relating to the people and things that have been in a region from the earliest time
: of or relating to the native people of Australia : of or relating to Australian aborigines
Why not use the primary definition? Clearly that is what Canada rightly does.
Well, there are some words that have contradictory definitions. Like empirical.
That was always a fun one to point out to atheists.
 

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Wouldn't that simply be because your vocabulary might need some bolstering? I knew what the term meant.
LOL, what do you expect from a Bohemian Nebraska Farm Boy, ........... BILL O'REILLY?

And the word for today is KOLACHE.
 
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God has revealed Himself to every person that has been born. They are without excuse for not following Him.

Nobody can stand before God and say since this or that person did not know about God that God therefore cannot judge them for rejecting Him. It does not work that way.

God judges each person by whether they have accepted God as their Lord and Savior or have rejected Him. This is what we will be judge for. We will not be judged for our sins because the Blood of Jesus has washed every person clean of all their sins.

So arguing about some one in another country not knowing about God has no bearing on God judging you for rejecting Him.

You will be judged organicbeast as to have you accepted or rejected God.