Put The Spotlight On Jesus’ Finished Work

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Put The Spotlight On Jesus’ Finished Work ​

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The devil is not called the “accuser of our brethren” for nothing (Revelation 12:10). When you’ve done wrong, he will remind you of it day and night. Even when you’ve done right, he will tell you that it wasn’t good enough.

The enemy just loves to bring up your failures, to put a spotlight on how your behavior has disqualified you from God’s acceptance, love and blessings. He loves to heap condemnation upon you and give you a sense of guilt and distance from God. He knows that the more condemnation and guilt you experience, the more likely you are to feel alienated from God and to live life defeated.

Beloved, the only way out of this vicious circle of defeat is to put the spotlight on the finished work of Jesus. Bring every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ at the cross. Through His perfect obedience and death at the cross, He has taken away your condemnation and qualified you to receive God’s acceptance, love and blessings forevermore!

Grace Inspirations Joseph Prince Ministries

 

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And, again. A little nudge away from the path, followed by nudging again, to create a different path.

No, the focus is on Jesus, not just his finished work. Jesus himself.

And, if it is on Jesus (or his finished work), then why was the focus of your advertising article about the devil/the accuser of the brethren/the enemy. All that in the first true paragraph, and yet you STILL think Joseph Prince has "the" gospel."

Still not buying it. God's path. Not Prince's path.

Keep Jesus as the focus and let him deal with "enemies." What we focus on is where we end up going. Notice what this focused on in reality. That wasn't "the brethren." That was Prince.

 

[Grace777x70]

And, again. A little nudge away from the path, followed by nudging again, to create a different path.

No, the focus is on Jesus, not just his finished work. Jesus himself.

And, if it is on Jesus (or his finished work), then why was the focus of your advertising article about the devil/the accuser of the brethren/the enemy. All that in the first true paragraph, and yet you STILL think Joseph Prince has "the" gospel."

Still not buying it. God's path. Not Prince's path.

Keep Jesus as the focus and let him deal with "enemies." What we focus on is where we end up going. Notice what this focused on in reality. That wasn't "the brethren." That was Prince.

Lynn....trying to divorce the finished work of Jesus from Jesus is like trying to separate the wet from the water. It is all about Jesus. Peter says to "fix your hope completely on the grace that is being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

If you never heard of what Jesus did for you on the Cross and resurrection - you would not be saved. Hearing HIs finished work is paramount importance for the Christian.

Here is the first paragraph..I really don't see what is wrong with that as it is true. Have you not ever done something in the past and then have thoughts coming at you trying to still condemn you of what happened? Those are not from God.

The devil is not called the “accuser of our brethren” for nothing (Revelation 12:10). When you’ve done wrong, he will remind you of it day and night. Even when you’ve done right, he will tell you that it wasn’t good enough.

I encourage you to read it again and you will see that the article is exhorting people to trust in Jesus and to not believe the lies from the accuser of the brethren.

And please do not put words in my post that are not there such as you did here..

Originally Posted by Grace777x70

(I removed the false advertisement myself)

 

[PeterJens]

I find this proposition interesting.

When your conscience or thoughts turn negative, that is satan.
Most times it is just your high expectations and self condemnation.

Satan is the accuser of the brethren before God. And the accusation he raises is false, not true.
If the accusation is true then one is saying justice is not being served if God ignores the accusation.

Where does it say, when satan comes and accuses you of sin, you can claim the blood and the sin is not there?
No it says when you are falsely accused you can rejoice, for great is the reward for the righteous.

Warnings are given if the accusation is true, you will be put in prison and you will not be let out until the debt is paid in full.

If you are convicted of sin, you will repent and seek forgiveness through Christ. Do you think satan is in the ministry of convicting people of sin so they repent, or falsely accusing the righteous so they get discouraged and give up?

Now if it is not satan talking about sin and the need to repent, but God, how can it be a christian is saying Gods ministry is from the enemy? I would suggest that means this christian is very confused, and maybe not what they appear to be.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Lynn....trying to divorce the finished work of Jesus from Jesus is like trying to separate the wet from the water. It is all about Jesus. Peter says to "fix your hope completely on the grace that is being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

If you never heard of what Jesus did for you on the Cross and resurrection - you would not be saved. Hearing HIs finished work is paramount importance for the Christian.

Here is the first paragraph..I really don't see what is wrong with that as it is true. Have you not ever done something in the past and then have thoughts coming at you trying to still condemn you of what happened? Those are not from God.

The devil is not called the “accuser of our brethren” for nothing (Revelation 12:10). When you’ve done wrong, he will remind you of it day and night. Even when you’ve done right, he will tell you that it wasn’t good enough.

I encourage you to read it again and you will see that the article is exhorting people to trust in Jesus and to not believe the lies from the accuser of the brethren.

And please do not put words in my post that are not there such as you did here..

Originally Posted by Grace777x70

(I removed the false advertisement myself)

Why is it you keep trying to take focus of people and putting it on the cross. How dare you!!..lol

Amen bro. Jesus said it is finished, He meant it.. His resurrection proves the father accepted his payment in full..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I find this proposition interesting.

When your conscience or thoughts turn negative, that is satan.
Most times it is just your high expectations and self condemnation.

Satan is the accuser of the brethren before God. And the accusation he raises is false, not true.
If the accusation is true then one is saying justice is not being served if God ignores the accusation.

Where does it say, when satan comes and accuses you of sin, you can claim the blood and the sin is not there?
No it says when you are falsely accused you can rejoice, for great is the reward for the righteous.

Warnings are given if the accusation is true, you will be put in prison and you will not be let out until the debt is paid in full.

If you are convicted of sin, you will repent and seek forgiveness through Christ. Do you think satan is in the ministry of convicting people of sin so they repent, or falsely accusing the righteous so they get discouraged and give up?

Now if it is not satan talking about sin and the need to repent, but God, how can it be a christian is saying Gods ministry is from the enemy? I would suggest that means this christian is very confused, and maybe not what they appear to be.

The debt was paid in full Tetelesti literally means "paid in full" Jesus spoke those words on the cross.

And Yes Satan wants to accuse you, He wants your sin in your face, to take you away from God, Because if he can convict you, and make you think your not forgiven, He won the battle..

 

[crossnote]

And, again. A little nudge away from the path, followed by nudging again, to create a different path.

No, the focus is on Jesus, not just his finished work. Jesus himself.

And, if it is on Jesus (or his finished work), then why was the focus of your advertising article about the devil/the accuser of the brethren/the enemy. All that in the first true paragraph, and yet you STILL think Joseph Prince has "the" gospel."

Still not buying it. God's path. Not Prince's path.

Keep Jesus as the focus and let him deal with "enemies." What we focus on is where we end up going. Notice what this focused on in reality. That wasn't "the brethren." That was Prince.

Yes we are to focus on Jesus. The true Jesus as revealed in Scripture...not just a chunk of Him (though the cross is foundational).
Our eyes are also on the resurrected Jesus (we have two eyes don't we?) ascended and interceeding at the right hand of the Father. And it can be argued that the Spirit of Jesus is at work in us drawing us to Himself in ALL HIS FACETS of Glory and Humility.

 

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When Satan reminds us of our past, remind him of his future.

 

[Grace777x70]

Yes we are to focus on Jesus. The true Jesus as revealed in Scripture...not just a chunk of Him (though the cross is foundational).
Our eyes are also on the resurrected Jesus (we have two eyes don't we?) ascended and interceeding at the right hand of the Father. And it can be argued that the Spirit of Jesus is at work in us drawing us to Himself in ALL HIS FACETS of Glory and Humility.

Amen...the finished work of Jesus is the resurrected Jesus as He stands now before the Father in our place and we are one with Him. He made us to be born again of the Spirit of God. We are a new creation in Him - created in righteousness and holiness.

We are to fix our hope completely on the grace that comes with the revelation of Jesus Christ. Christ as He is now is everything to the Christian. Paul says that we are to behold Christ as He is now and ourselves as new creations in Him.

2 Corinthians 5:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore from now on we recognize no one according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him in this way no longer.

[SUP]17 [/SUP] Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.

 

[crossnote]

Amen...the finished work of Jesus is the resurrected Jesus as He stands now before the Father in our place and we are one with Him. He made us to be born again of the Spirit of God. We are a new creation in Him - created in righteousness and holiness.

We are to fix our hope completely on the grace that comes with the revelation of Jesus Christ. Christ as He is now is everything to the Christian. Paul says that we are to behold Christ as He is now and ourselves as new creations in Him.

2 Corinthians 5:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore from now on we recognize no one according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him in this way no longer.

[SUP]17 [/SUP] Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.

Yes and the resurrected Jesus is the same Jesus who finished our atonement at Calvary. I'm just curious why you seem only to emphasize the latter wayyy over the former. Almost all your threads are on the finished work...guess that is your specialty?
Just saying there is much more than the atonement concerning Jesus although it is foundational.

 

[Grace777x70]

Yes and the resurrected Jesus is the same Jesus who finished our atonement at Calvary. I'm just curious why you seem only to emphasize the latter wayyy over the former. Almost all your threads are on the finished work...guess that is your specialty?
Just saying there is much more than the atonement concerning Jesus although it is foundational.

When I say the finished work of Christ I am referring to all that He has already done with His death and resurrection - our complete salvation that is in Him. You know this as I have told you more then a few times now that very thing.

Every time I talk about us believers being a new creation in Christ - created in righteousness and holiness is talking about what the finished work of Christ is to us. I'm sure I talk about us being new creations in Christ alot!

 

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Lynn....trying to divorce the finished work of Jesus from Jesus is like trying to separate the wet from the water. It is all about Jesus. Peter says to "fix your hope completely on the grace that is being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

If you never heard of what Jesus did for you on the Cross and resurrection - you would not be saved. Hearing HIs finished work is paramount importance for the Christian.

Here is the first paragraph..I really don't see what is wrong with that as it is true. Have you not ever done something in the past and then have thoughts coming at you trying to still condemn you of what happened? Those are not from God.

The devil is not called the “accuser of our brethren” for nothing (Revelation 12:10). When you’ve done wrong, he will remind you of it day and night. Even when you’ve done right, he will tell you that it wasn’t good enough.

I encourage you to read it again and you will see that the article is exhorting people to trust in Jesus and to not believe the lies from the accuser of the brethren.

And please do not put words in my post that are not there such as you did here..

Originally Posted by Grace777x70

(I removed the false advertisement myself)

No, divorcing Jesus to look at his "finished work" is separating the whole of God to stare at a toe. And then from the toes, you went right into staring at the exact opposite direction from God himself.

Honestly? I don't see you are evil. I see you as someone who caught onto a funky message and you have no idea how funky it is.

I used to excel at lying. Two secrets to a really good lie:
1. Be prepared to give account of a full story if called on the lie, but only tell a partial to start with. (I used to hitchhike, which is dangerous, particularly for a girl, so I made up a story about going to see my parole officer. The parole office was a few doors up from the drug rehab, so that base was covered. It was only a couple of months since I became clean, and being poorly employed, I didn't have the money for a new wardrobe, so I looked like I was still a druggie. That's all I told of the story. But, if the guy asked the whole of the story was "I was only the driver, and I didn't know they were going to rob the Pep Boys with a gun. That usually shocked the guys enough to start wondering if I was telling the full truth, and, by the time they thought it out, they were dropping me off in front of the parole office.)
2. Make sure 90% of the lie is truth. ("Did God say?" The first lie Satan ever used, and sure enough, 90% close to what God said, but not quite, giving room to question legitimately, unless you know the truth.)

Joseph Prince is a master of lies. Don't learn from a master, because you're doing just what he does. Just nudging a little bit at a time.

Meanwhile, I'm not letting you fool some naive folks into following that man by doing his advertising for him. And, I'm not sitting back while you nudge the gospel.
1. You can't.
2. I used to be an excellent liar, so you can't scam me into falling for the lie too.

No, the finished work of Jesus is what Jesus did. The whole of Jesus did, and there is much more to him than finishing. Not the wet, nor the water, and you cannot turn this around again and again as if I'm wrong here. I like to assume the best in people, unless the person is a scam artist. Joseph Prince is a scam artist laughing all the way to the bank on your hard work.

AND, isn't there a part of you that wish I mastered subtle, kinder, and/or softer, when God changed me out of being a liar? Sorry about that. Never did get the refined version of not-a-liar school.

Honest, I really think you're probably a very nice guy, but you've been fooled by a nudger. And, I'm particularly sensitive to that because I landed in a church right after it was completely, utterly ripped to shreds by a scam artist and saw how long it took people to recover from that. Looked something like a lapdog after a lynx played with it for a while. The people barely survived (many simply gave up on God all together) and were crushed for years.

I hope you get far enough to face that in yourself one day, although I know how much it hurts, but I'm just not going to let you drag others into the snares of that scam artist. I've experienced the aftermath before, and I'll do my best to stop as many from following as I'm able to.

 

[Depleted]

When Satan reminds us of our past, remind him of his future.

When Satan reminds us of our past...

It's time to wonder why we're listening to Satan!

We can't beat him. God has. Why waste time on him? All that does is divert our eyes from Christ! What we focus on is where we go.

 

[Grace777x70]

No, divorcing Jesus to look at his "finished work" is separating the whole of God to stare at a toe. And then from the toes, you went right into staring at the exact opposite direction from God himself.

Honestly? I don't see you are evil. I see you as someone who caught onto a funky message and you have no idea how funky it is.

I used to excel at lying. Two secrets to a really good lie:
1. Be prepared to give account of a full story if called on the lie, but only tell a partial to start with. (I used to hitchhike, which is dangerous, particularly for a girl, so I made up a story about going to see my parole officer. The parole office was a few doors up from the drug rehab, so that base was covered. It was only a couple of months since I became clean, and being poorly employed, I didn't have the money for a new wardrobe, so I looked like I was still a druggie. That's all I told of the story. But, if the guy asked the whole of the story was "I was only the driver, and I didn't know they were going to rob the Pep Boys with a gun. That usually shocked the guys enough to start wondering if I was telling the full truth, and, by the time they thought it out, they were dropping me off in front of the parole office.)
2. Make sure 90% of the lie is truth. ("Did God say?" The first lie Satan ever used, and sure enough, 90% close to what God said, but not quite, giving room to question legitimately, unless you know the truth.)

Joseph Prince is a master of lies. Don't learn from a master, because you're doing just what he does. Just nudging a little bit at a time.

Meanwhile, I'm not letting you fool some naive folks into following that man by doing his advertising for him. And, I'm not sitting back while you nudge the gospel.
1. You can't.
2. I used to be an excellent liar, so you can't scam me into falling for the lie too.

No, the finished work of Jesus is what Jesus did. The whole of Jesus did, and there is much more to him than finishing. Not the wet, nor the water, and you cannot turn this around again and again as if I'm wrong here. I like to assume the best in people, unless the person is a scam artist. Joseph Prince is a scam artist laughing all the way to the bank on your hard work.

AND, isn't there a part of you that wish I mastered subtle, kinder, and/or softer, when God changed me out of being a liar? Sorry about that. Never did get the refined version of not-a-liar school.

Honest, I really think you're probably a very nice guy, but you've been fooled by a nudger. And, I'm particularly sensitive to that because I landed in a church right after it was completely, utterly ripped to shreds by a scam artist and saw how long it took people to recover from that. Looked something like a lapdog after a lynx played with it for a while. The people barely survived (many simply gave up on God all together) and were crushed for years.

I hope you get far enough to face that in yourself one day, although I know how much it hurts, but I'm just not going to let you drag others into the snares of that scam artist. I've experienced the aftermath before, and I'll do my best to stop as many from following as I'm able to.

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Lynn...it's too bad that your malice ( which is defined as ill-will towards someone ) is robbing you of what the OP is saying. Now you can malign the messenger all you want but in reality you are only hurting yourself.

The whole point of the OP is to encourage people to not let the enemy beat them up about their failures and to instead look at what Jesus did for us! If this offends you - then I would suggest you not even bother looking into threads like that.

The whole purpose of the OP is to encourage people in the Lord and if some people have some ill-will ( malice ) toward the one that made up the OP - then I suggest people take it to the Lord as they are only hurting themselves.

 

[Grace777x70]

When Satan reminds us of our past...

It's time to wonder why we're listening to Satan!

We can't beat him. God has. Why waste time on him? All that does is divert our eyes from Christ! What we focus on is where we go.

Amen...and that is exactly what the OP was saying!...focus on Jesus and what He has already done for us - don't listen to those lies from the enemy.

 

[Depleted]

When I say the finished work of Christ I am referring to all that He has already done with His death and resurrection - our complete salvation that is in Him. You know this as I have told you more then a few times now that very thing.

Every time I talk about us believers being a new creation in Christ - created in righteousness and holiness is talking about what the finished work of Christ is to us. I'm sure I talk about us being new creations in Christ alot!

Jesus, being eternal, is always present perfect. We, being linear, need him in present tense as much as what he did on that cross was needed. Whereas, most definitely, we need/needed the warrior on the cross with the bloody wrist, feet, and ribs willing to do through all that for us, the Jesus I go to today is the radiating one with the white wooly hair and the sword coming out of his mouth at the right hand of the Father. He's the one that stops me from hollering at someone simply because I'm angry with someone else. He's the one who got me not to lie. He's the one that stops me from gossiping -- which is still a never-ending temptation. He's the one who protects me from any evil-doer, including the supernatural ones. He's the one keeping me going when I run out of rope. He's the one who loves me. His work is finished, but he's still working in me, so I ain't finished. And, frankly, laurels are rather boring things and not very comfortable to rest on.

 

[Budman]

If Jesus paid for the sins of the world, how much must we atone for?

Nothing.

If the Father accepted Christ's payment, what do we owe?

Not a single thing.

If we can never be lost (John 6:39) nor snatched out of God's hand, or perish (John 10:28-29), will we ever stop being His children, even if we choose to walk away from Him?

Not a chance.

Runaway children do not stop being their father's children. To claim one can somehow return God's gift of salvation would make God out to be a liar. When He said we can never be lost, or perish, He meant it.

We cannot be unborn from our parents, nor can we be unborn from our second birth.

 

[Grace777x70]

If Jesus paid for the sins of the world, how much must we atone for?

Nothing.

If the Father accepted Christ's payment, what do we owe?

Not a single thing.

If we can never be lost (John 6:39) nor snatched out of God's hand, or perish (John 10:28-29), will we ever stop being His children, even if we choose to walk away from Him?

Not a chance.

Runaway children do not stop being their father's children. To claim one can somehow return God's gift of salvation would make God out to be a liar. When He said we can never be lost, or perish, He meant it.

We cannot be unborn from our parents, nor can we be unborn from our second birth.

Amen.....and when the enemy comes to tell us different - we are to focus on what is already done by our loving Lord and that we are safe in His completed work! ( maybe I should change the term from finished to completed so that it doesn't offend some people? )

 

[crossnote]

When I say the finished work of Christ I am referring to all that He has already done with His death and resurrection - our complete salvation that is in Him. You know this as I have told you more then a few times now that very thing.

Every time I talk about us believers being a new creation in Christ - created in righteousness and holiness is talking about what the finished work of Christ is to us. I'm sure I talk about us being new creations in Christ alot!

If it is only what He has DONE or DID for us then we are missing out on what He is DOING and will DO in us. That's my point, no need to ride on one track.

 

[Budman]

If it is only what He has DONE or DID for us then we are missing out on what He is DOING and will DO in us. That's my point, no need to ride on one track.

He is emphasizing our foundation. Without it, nothing that is built afterward will stand.

The atonement is the most important thing. It is the very heart of the gospel.