Where Is Muhammad Ali Now?

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Budman said:
It's a hypothetical question.

Okay. Let's try this....

Will Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Mormons, etc. go to heaven when they die?
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It's a hypothetical question I will not answer because I take my own salvation very seriously. And I take the holiness of God very seriously as well. I will never pretend to know as much as God by stating whether ANYONE is saved or not. Like I said, I'm just not going there.
 
santuzza said:
It's a hypothetical question I will not answer because I take my own salvation very seriously. And I take the holiness of God very seriously as well. I will never pretend to know as much as God by stating whether ANYONE is saved or not. Like I said, I'm just not going there.
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Do you believe Jesus is the only way to heaven?
 
But I do have a question for you: If you were to die tonight, would you go to heaven? I know I will. How about you?

That's the question we really need to be answering. Not some hypothetical garbage about a man no one really knows.
 
santuzza said:
But I do have a question for you: If you were to die tonight, would you go to heaven? I know I will. How about you?

That's the question we really need to be answering. Not some hypothetical garbage about a man no one really knows.
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Yes, I know I will.

But this question is simply one regarding such assurance.

Do you believe Jesus is the only way to heaven?
 
Budman said:
Yes, I know I will.

But this question is simply one regarding such assurance.

Do you believe Jesus is the only way to heaven?
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Jesus said that He was the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except by Him.
 
WebersHome said:
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The Greatest (a.k.a. Cassius Clay) followed a spiritual philosophy called
Universal Sufism.

If the Bible has it right, then the three-time heavyweight boxing champion is
now coping with something far, far worse than Parkinson's disease.

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I do not think that we can make that determination, that is up to the Lord Jesus Christ only He can see the true intent of the heart. All I can say on the subject is that I hope that he found saving grace in the Lord Jesus Christ before his passing and my prayers are with his family that they also might find salvation through the Lord if they have not already. Also for the Lord to comfort them in the family's time of need.

God Bless
 
Act_17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

God is judge,
We may judge if someone is saved or not saved but it counts for nothing in the end. Only God can understand or consider everything and make the just and correct judgement.
There will be people in Heaven that have never heard the name of Jesus but they where ignorant and Jesus judges them as saved because He can see their hearts.

only God can judge a heart because only God can read the heart.
 
Let me give you a personal reason why I'll never pass judgment on anyone's salvation.

I was very close to my grandmother. As I was growing up, she lived with us, and we were very close. But here's the thing, as far as I know, she never came to know the Lord. She was an agnostic.

I will not know in this life if, at some time near the end of her life, she came to Jesus. It's possible. Someone in her nursing home could have said just the right thing at just the right time, and it all clicked for her and she believed. It is my earnest hope and prayer that she did.

So I will never pass judgment on anyone's salvation because that would mean passing judgment on my own beloved grandmother.
 
santuzza said:
Let me give you a personal reason why I'll never pass judgment on anyone's salvation.

I was very close to my grandmother. As I was growing up, she lived with us, and we were very close. But here's the thing, as far as I know, she never came to know the Lord. She was an agnostic.

I will not know in this life if, at some time near the end of her life, she came to Jesus. It's possible. Someone in her nursing home could have said just the right thing at just the right time, and it all clicked for her and she believed. It is my earnest hope and prayer that she did.

So I will never pass judgment on anyone's salvation because that would mean passing judgment on my own beloved grandmother.
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I agree with this sentiment. It's pretty disgusting for people to make assumptions about someone after they have died as to their eternal state. Not so much for them, but for those who loved them and were left behind.

I can see some knot head going like this....hey, sorry about your brother man....did he know Jesus? No?....well thats too bad....I hope he didn't end up in hell.
 
Where is Mohammed Ali, he is with Allah in the fire of hell, unless he repented and accepted Jesus before HE DIED.
 
Sirk said:
I agree with this sentiment. It's pretty disgusting for people to make assumptions about someone after they have died as to their eternal state. Not so much for them, but for those who loved them and were left behind.

I can see some knot head going like this....hey, sorry about your brother man....did he know Jesus? No?....well thats too bad....I hope he didn't end up in hell.
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Actually, the end to the story was not unlike that. Ultimately, my grandma died on the very first day I was working as an Administrative Assistant in my church. One of my co-workers, not knowing me or my faith journey very well, asked that horrid question, "Did she know the Lord?" I had to answer, honestly, that I didn't think so. The look on her face was quite remarkable. I got the feeling she never knew a Christian who had unsaved family. It was really pretty unkind and rather hurtful.
 
santuzza said:
Actually, the end to the story was not unlike that. Ultimately, my grandma died on the very first day I was working as an Administrative Assistant in my church. One of my co-workers, not knowing me or my faith journey very well, asked that horrid question, "Did she know the Lord?" I had to answer, honestly, that I didn't think so. The look on her face was quite remarkable. I got the feeling she never knew a Christian who had unsaved family. It was really pretty unkind and rather hurtful.
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That's the way it is, funerals for the lost our the most horrid events that I have ever been to, some even put joints in their mouths and pour wild turkey in their caskets. It is an awful event.
 
santuzza said:
Actually, the end to the story was not unlike that. Ultimately, my grandma died on the very first day I was working as an Administrative Assistant in my church. One of my co-workers, not knowing me or my faith journey very well, asked that horrid question, "Did she know the Lord?" I had to answer, honestly, that I didn't think so. The look on her face was quite remarkable. I got the feeling she never knew a Christian who had unsaved family. It was really pretty unkind and rather hurtful.
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"Christians" are some of the biggest retards on the planet.
 
I am not focusing on the dead but the living. Their are plenty of muslims that need witnessing to. My hearts desire that I present the truth in love.
 
Well unless he was cremated and scattered somewhere..I hope that right now he's in his grave.
 
WebersHome said:
-The Greatest (a.k.a. Cassius Clay) followed a spiritual philosophy called
Universal Sufism.
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(a.k.a. Cassius Clay)? His name has always been Muhammad Ali the same as the female was always named Eve.

So if the female was given the named Eve after the fall from non-existence into life in the Garden of Eden, it seems the only reason to mentioned the perceived name change of Muhammad Ali which is a variance from the precept that they normally hold in judgment is like the judge written of in Luke 18:2

Sufism- So is Sufism some sort of slang, seems the history of Sufism is somewhat conflicting in date origin which in either case Ali only announced his participate in Sufism in 2005

"According to Miller, in 2005, Ali disclosed he feels the closest connection to Sufism, considered the most peaceful sect in Islam. “Ali announced he is a Sufi around 2005, saying that of all of the sects of Islam, he feels the closest connection to Sufism,” said Miller, who also agreed that Sufism was probably the right sect for the world renowned boxer." SOURCE

WebersHome said:
-If the Bible has it right, then the three-time heavyweight boxing champion is
now coping with something far, far worse than Parkinson's disease.

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By the statement "if the Bible has it right?" I am unsure whether your are suggesting your witness might possibly be that the Bible could be wrong? Or is it your witness that God has given you your prophesy of His Holy Truth that Mr. Ali is now suffering a far worse affliction than the one he endured unto the end while in the flesh on this earth?

The Book is semantics, if one can not unseal the Book but must be learned (Isaiah 29:12)
And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee:
and he saith, I am not learned. Then why hath the learned not learned (Isaiah 29:11)

I am more than quiet confident that the Holy Ghost has it exactly right.
 
ember said:
He's dead

maybe we should worry about ourselves...or better yet, trust Jesus and not worry and believe He will keep us and our salvation will be/is complete in Him
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A very good reply. We are all in the hands of God
 
Sirk said:
"Christians" are some of the biggest retards on the planet.
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