The Trump is terrible thread...

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Blacks are killing white folks left and right ...blacks are 50 times more likely to assault a white person than a white person assaulting a black ...and Trump supporters are racist? No!.... Hillary supporters are the clear racist and basic street thugs
 

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i just wanted to take something Sirk said in another context, and put it here to see if it fit:

Any relationship based on fear is no relationship at all.
hmm..

how many people now "support" Trump ((without actually supporting him)) because they are "afraid" of what would happen if a democrat wins the presidency?

how many people "support" him because they are afraid of terrorists blowing them up, or of Sharia law? because they are afraid of losing jobs to immigrants? because they are afraid of having their guns taken away or their taxes going up? because they are afraid of America 'not being great anymore' ? because they are afraid of the national debt?

hmm..

how many people support Clinton or Sanders because they are afraid of what they think will happen if Trump becomes president?



see, it occurs to me that when you no longer vote "for" someone, but are only voting "against" someone else, or "against" another party, or "against" an imaginary group of people that you ascribe every possible evil to that you can think of -- aren't you pretty much voting out of fear? if not hatred + fear?
& that's what we have: the two most untrusted and despised candidates we could find, going head to head ((plus a Jew with some 'crazy ideas' about helping the poor, that a lot of people don't take seriously, but nevermind him)). untrusted and despised by their own constituency - not just by their enemies. we're choosing sides because of hate & fear.



a relationship built on hatred is no relationship at all either. but that's the relationship a lot of people have with Trump: one based on fear and/or hatred of "liberals" in general and of Clinton in particular. and that's the relationship a lot of people have with Clinton: based on fear and/or hared of Trump; of sexism, racism, demagoguery and bigotry. apart from a nutty core ((filled with nougat?)) both candidates have a bunch of support whose basis is mostly nothing but hatred & fear of the other candidate.

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i just wanted to take something Sirk said in another context, and put it here to see if it fit:



hmm..

how many people now "support" Trump ((without actually supporting him)) because they are "afraid" of what would happen if a democrat wins the presidency?

how many people "support" him because they are afraid of terrorists blowing them up, or of Sharia law? because they are afraid of losing jobs to immigrants? because they are afraid of having their guns taken away or their taxes going up? because they are afraid of America 'not being great anymore' ? because they are afraid of the national debt?

hmm..

how many people support Clinton or Sanders because they are afraid of what they think will happen if Trump becomes president?



see, it occurs to me that when you no longer vote "for" someone, but are only voting "against" someone else, or "against" another party, or "against" an imaginary group of people that you ascribe every possible evil to that you can think of -- aren't you pretty much voting out of fear? if not hatred + fear?
& that's what we have: the two most untrusted and despised candidates we could find, going head to head ((plus a Jew with some 'crazy ideas' about helping the poor, that a lot of people don't take seriously, but nevermind him)). untrusted and despised by their own constituency - not just by their enemies. we're choosing sides because of hate & fear.



a relationship built on hatred is no relationship at all either. but that's the relationship a lot of people have with Trump: one based on fear and/or hatred of "liberals" in general and of Clinton in particular. and that's the relationship a lot of people have with Clinton: based on fear and/or hared of Trump; of sexism, racism, demagoguery and bigotry. apart from a nutty core ((filled with nougat?)) both candidates have a bunch of support whose basis is mostly nothing but hatred & fear of the other candidate.

spooky

Trump thinks like I do. Borders, language and culture. He doesn't drink or abuse women. He loves America and the constitution. Don't you ever wonder why the media asks Ivanka how her dad treats women but not once have they ever asked Chelsea that question?
 

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I can't prove that Trump himself is racist. I've heard stories but it's all hearsay. However I've interacted with enough of his supporters to know that most of them are white supremacists
In order to be a racist you have to feel that you are special or entitled to something because of the color of your skin. I don't see much white supremacists today. There is a whole new class of racists and bigots in the world today. If we look at society today we can see exactly where racism is now days. You have people getting attacked, being called names, missing job opportunities and etc. just because the color of their skin. But society looks the other way because apparently that's what they think white people deserve.

I'm not racist and don't judge people by the color of their skin. But its not fair that I am being judged by the color of my skin and for things that happened decades and centuries ago that I had no part in. So yes there is a great sin of racism going on today, and I think that it is a shame that our country is stereotyping, shaming, and using white people as scapegoats.
 

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49; said:
America is more than a trillion in debt, but who's counting?

Conservative Republican Dick Cheney said "deficits don't matter". If that principle was acceptable in his years then it should be perfectly so today.
 

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Trump Orders Surrogates to Intensify Criticism of Judge and Journalists - Bloomberg Politics


[h=1]Intensify Criticism of Judge and Journalists[/h][h=2]During a Monday conference call with supporters, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee overruled a directive sent out by his own campaign.[/h]



An embattled Donald Trump urgently rallied his most visible supporters to defend his attacks on a federal judge's Mexican ancestry during a conference call on Monday in which he ordered them to question the judge's credibility and impugn reporters as racists.
“We will overcome,” Trump said, according to two supporters who were on the call and requested anonymity to share their notes with Bloomberg Politics. “And I’ve always won and I’m going to continue to win. And that’s the way it is.”
There was no mention of apologizing or backing away from his widely criticized remarks about U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who is overseeing cases against the Trump University real-estate program.




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Interesting report on the chaos in the Trump campaign.
 

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Trump Orders Surrogates to Intensify Criticism of Judge and Journalists - Bloomberg Politics


Intensify Criticism of Judge and Journalists

During a Monday conference call with supporters, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee overruled a directive sent out by his own campaign.





An embattled Donald Trump urgently rallied his most visible supporters to defend his attacks on a federal judge's Mexican ancestry during a conference call on Monday in which he ordered them to question the judge's credibility and impugn reporters as racists.
“We will overcome,” Trump said, according to two supporters who were on the call and requested anonymity to share their notes with Bloomberg Politics. “And I’ve always won and I’m going to continue to win. And that’s the way it is.”
There was no mention of apologizing or backing away from his widely criticized remarks about U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who is overseeing cases against the Trump University real-estate program.




more ....



Interesting report on the chaos in the Trump campaign.
as well he should.

Judge, law firm bringing Trump U case both tied to La Raza
 

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Look again as La Raza is not the same organization as the National Council of La Raza:

Guess Which Prominent Fox News Contributor and Trump Backer is ALSO a Member of "La Raza"! | RedState



Even your article admits it: ''the San Diego La Raza Lawyers’ association is not affiliated with the National Council of La Raza''.


Note that your article says La Raza "
translates literally “The Race.” That is incorrect. The organization was founded by Mexican-Americans in California where the term means "the community". In other parts of Latin America such as in Puerto Rico where I was born the term means "the Race". But it does not have that meaning or even the most remote connotation in that manner to Mexicans. By writing what he did the right wing writer of your article shows his ignorance of the language and its varying idioms based on ethnicity.
 
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Sirk

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Look again as La Raza is not the same organization as the National Council of La Raza:

Guess Which Prominent Fox News Contributor and Trump Backer is ALSO a Member of "La Raza"! | RedState



Even your article admits it: ''the San Diego La Raza Lawyers’ association is not affiliated with the National Council of La Raza''.


Note that your article says La Raza "
translates literally “The Race.” That is incorrect. The organization was founded by Mexican-Americans in California where the term means "the community". In other parts of Latin America such as in Puerto Rico where I was born the term means "the Race". But it does not have that meaning or even the most remote connotation in that manner to Mexicans. By writing what he did the right wing writer of your article shows his ignorance of the language and its varying idioms based on ethnicity.
But it also says they both have the same roots in the 60's. I'm guessing they broke off for the purpose of plausible deniability for purposes like you see here.
 

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But it also says they both have the same roots in the 60's. I'm guessing they broke off for the purpose of plausible deniability for purposes like you see here.


The Founding Fathers said they fought for the rights of Englishmen. Few people would say Brits and Yanks are the same people today.
 

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The Founding Fathers said they fought for the rights of Englishmen. Few people would say Brits and Yanks are the same people today.
The difference of 200+ years and 50+.
 
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The Founding Fathers said they fought for the rights of Englishmen. Few people would say Brits and Yanks are the same people today.
Huh...yanks...gross;) jk...lol
 

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I can give you some modern day examples such Czech & Slovakia, India & Pakistan, etc. It is important to make distinction where due such as in the case above which your author fails to make.
 

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Trump refused 200 million dollars to pick Gingrich as his VP. Looks like the establishment tried to get their globalist sycophant in there to keep tabs on Trump....just like they did with Bush for Reagan. Problem is they tried to kill Reagan to get their guy in the Whitehouse. Trump is a smart man and will pick an outsider for VP to ensure they don't kill him. This is a very delicate time and I hope Trump has battened down all the hatches in regards to his personal security.
 
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Trump stood up to a racist Mexican judge that belongs to a racist group ...then they call Trump the racist
 

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Trump stood up to a racist Mexican judge that belongs to a racist group ...then they call Trump the racist
The gloabalists are on full display for all to see and Trump is standing up against them...amazing to me that few here can see it. What happened to eyes to see and ears to hear? Even Christians are hoodwinked by the globalist agenda and their willing accomplices in the media.
 

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The judge who Trump "stood up" to is coincidentally the judge who is handling the lawsuits from his fraudulent University
 

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The judge who Trump "stood up" to is coincidentally the judge who is handling the lawsuits from his fraudulent University
Hello! Earth to dude! LOL
 

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Michelle Obama recently made a speech in which she mentioned that she is living in a house built by slaves. I know slaves didn't do all the work but they did help. Of course the racist trumpers took what she said entirely out of its context and blamed her for race-baiting. All she meant was . Look how far black people have come in this country. This is why I will never support Donald Trump because his entire campaign is based on hatred
 

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Trump main demographic of people who are ignorant and uneducated. One of their biggest talking points is food stamps and Welfare which cost the average taxpayer around $60 a year, meanwhile corporate welfare cost the average taxpayer around $9,000 a year.
 
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